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LRH: Is it all right to audit in this room? PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
LRH: You thought it would happen and then uh . . . PC: I sort of thought, Oh, I hope it doesn't. LRH: All right.


Now, look around here. PC: Okay. LRH: All right.
Hope it doesn't! PC: Yes. LRH: Oh, that's rough.


All right, and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
We're not going to do anything very desperate here, honey. All we're going to do is check out your goal. But we're going to prepcheck.


I get a little disturbance on that. What is it? PC: Well, I wanted to get through the rudiment and didn't want to mess around with it.
Now, I don't know whether you've been prepchecked on this or not. PC: No. LRH: And I thought it might be a good opportunity for you to get a little subjective reality on this.


I thought you were going to say then no, it's not – it's not in. I was rather surprised when you gave me the question, “Have a look around here.” LRH: All right. PC: I had looked around, but I hadn't actually moved my head.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: We've got plenty of people whose goals I could check out. But I sort of wanted when you came down calling me – I actually wanted to check out your goal.


I had a quick twist of my eyes. LRH: Yes, yes, yes. All right.
So, I'm going to shoot two factors with one session. PC: Thank you. LRH: All right.


All right. Squeeze the cans. All right.
This sort of thing won't bother you anyway. PC: No. LRH: All right.


Your havingness is all right. All right. I'll check that one more time.
Is it all right with you if I begin this session now? PC: Yes. LRH: All right.


Look around here and tell me if it is all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: I got a reaction on that.
Here it is. Start of session. PC: Okay.


That's it. PC: Camera, a camera, that camera isn't working properly and it should be, and I wondered just before you asked. And I thought on that one and I'd seen it switched to the other camera so, that was all right.
TV DEMO: 2  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Has the session started for you? PC: Yes, thank you. LRH: All right.


Well, I think it was a little disturbing that the camera wasn't working properly. TV DEMO: 2  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right, thank you. All right.
Very good. What goals would you like to set for this session? PC: Well, to do whatever it is we are going to do, successfully.


Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: There's still a reaction.
LRH: To do . . . PC: Whatever we are going to do, successfully . . . LRH: . . .whatever we're going to do.


PC: It's warm. LRH: Warm. Okay, thank you.
And what s the last . . . PC: Successfully. LRH: . . . successfully.
 
Oh, well that is a goal. All right. Very good.
 
Any other goal? PC: No. That will be fine.
 
LRH: All right. Is there any goal you would like to set for life and livingness? PC To use the knowledge and the gain that I get here, at London HASI.
 
LRH: All right. Any other? PC: No.
 
That will be fine. LRH: All right honey. You look a little bit nervous.
 
Do you feel nervous? PC: No, not nervous, just – just cornered. LRH: Do you feel you've been betrayed?
 
PC: Yes. I've been caught. LRH: Oh, too bad.
 
PC: Yes. LRH: Too bad. PC: Doesn't – this system doesn't worry me.
 
I was surprised. It's so separate here. LRH: Well, all right.
 
All right. Now, uh – look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes, it's fine.
 
LRH: All right. Look around again. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right. What's your Havingness Process lately? PC: Look around here and find something you can agree with.
 
TV DEMO: 3  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right. Squeeze the cans. Thank you.
 
My goodness! Out the bottom. All right.
 
Here's the first command. Look around here and find something you can agree with. PC: That picture.
 
LRH: Thank you. Look around here and find something you can agree with. PC: Curtain.
 
LRH: Thank you. Look around here and find something you can agree with. PC: Couch.
 
LRH: Thank you. Look around here and find something you can agree with. PC: Green vase.
 
LRH: Good enough. Squeeze the cans. All right.
 
Squeeze them again. All right. Has this Havingness Process been suppressed?
 
PC: Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes “point out something” does and sometimes “tactile” does. LRH: All right.
 
Has this Havingness Process been suppressed, invalidated? Is there something about this Havingness Process you failed to reveal? Yes, what have you failed to reveal about this Havingness Process?
 
PC: Something I failed to reveal, but it wasn't the Havingness Process that I know of. It was the fact that I've seen that picture in several different people's houses and I thought of it before you started running it. LRH: All right.
 
All right, thank you. Now, is there something about this Havingness Process you failed to reveal? PC: Not that I know of.
 
Didn't get anything. LRH: Well, all right. I'll check it on the meter.
 
PC: All right. LRH: All right. Is there anything about this Havingness Process you have failed to reveal?
 
All right. That's clean. Thank you.
 
All right. Is there anything about this Havingness Process that you have been careful of? PC: Not that I know of LRH: All right.
 
We're going to run a different Havingness Process. Okay? PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right. Squeeze the cans. Boy!
 
You're just getting that much drop. TV DEMO: 4  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.
 
Put the cans down. All right. Here we go.
 
Feel that table. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you.
 
Feel that chair. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you.
 
Feel that sign. PC: Yes. LRH: Thank you.
 
Feel that ashtray. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you.
 
Feel that table. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you.
 
Pick up the cans. PC: Okay. LRH: All right.
 
Squeeze the cans. Squeeze them again. I think we've got a little broadening of it here.
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Put them down. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right. Just feel those cans without picking them up. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: Thank you. Feel that chair. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: Oh, all right. How does it feel? PC: Feels slightly sticky and leatherish.
 
LRH: All right. Very good. Feel that cloth.
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. Thank you.
 
Feel your skirt. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.
 
Thank you. Feel your shoulders. TV DEMO: 5  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right. How do they feel? PC: Solid.
 
LRH: All right. Good enough. Feel that cloth.
 
PC: This one? LRH: Yeah. All right.
 
Pick up the cans. All right. Squeeze the cans.
 
Ah – that's good. Try it again. Squeeze the cans.
 
Yeah, that's your Havingness Process. Okay. Put them back down.
 
We'll do it a few more. All right. Feel the can cord.
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Okay. Thank you.
 
Feel the arm of your chair. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Just that one.
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Just that one there. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right. How does that feel? PC: Smooth.
 
Solid. LRH: All right. Very good.
 
Feel the table under there. PC: Yeah. LRH: Okay.
 
Feel this paper. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
 
Thank you. Feel the back of the E-Meter. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right. Thank you. Feel that ashtray.
 
PC: Yes. LRH: Good. Good.
 
Feel your skirt. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Good.
 
Feel both arms of your chair. PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 6  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right.
 
Feel the tablecloth in front of you. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
 
Now feel the table under the tablecloth. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you very much.
 
Pick up the cans. Okay, squeeze the cans. That's good.
 
Fine. Thank you. That was the last command.
 
PC: Okay. LRH: All right. I'll check this on the meter.


Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.


That was clean, as far as I'm concerned. All right. Now, are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties?
Anything particular you're running into as you do that? PC: Just at that moment, I noticed that camera over there. LRH: That was a big surprise?
 
PC: No, it reminded me of a camera I once saw in my bedroom about three Christmases ago at the same time up in the corner of the room. It was a picture I saw and I got tummy upset for a whole day. LRH: So, all right.
 
Good enough. Okay. Let me check this on the meter now.
 
Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
 
You still get a flick on something here. PC: Oh, I noticed the – a metallic object of some sort up there. LRH: All right.
 
Thank you. Let me check it on the meter again. Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room.
 
That's clean. Thank you. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right. It was actually clean before, but I took a latent read. Okay?
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: You feel all right about these cameras? PC: Yes.
 
LRH: Really? TV DEMO: 7  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Do you feel all right about these cameras?
 
PC: The only thing I can think of is that just – I just remember being a student down there and how they – how we all used to laugh at different occasions and I – I keep expecting to hear people laugh when I say something and I don't. LRH: Oh, really. Oh, all right.
 
All right. All right. We shoot them when they do that now.
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. We'll let it go at that.
 
Okay? PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Do you feel – you feel – you su – you sure you feel all right about . . .?
 
PC: Yes. LRH: All right. I get a very wide fall here when I say to you, “you sure you feel all right?” But it's not a – it's not an instant read.
 
PC: It's not these cameras . . . LRH: Yeah. PC: . . .
 
I don't think. LRH: Well. Tell me what you think it might be.
 
PC: I think it's being watched. But it isn't them down there watching. LRH: All right.
 
PC: It's a sort of – there's a something watching It's – it's this thing, I don't like being watched over my shoulder. LRH: Oh. Okay.
 
You think there's something over your shoulder, turn around and look. PC: No, only me. LRH: All right.
 
Okay. Now, you feel all right about this? PC: Yes.
 
LRH: Yes, you do now. Thank you. All right.
 
Now, are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
 
Thank you. Let me check that. That was equivocal.
 
Are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? TV DEMO: 8  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
 
Thank you. It's got a latent read on it. But that's otherwise fine.
 
All right. Since the last time . . . PC: Yes.
 
LRH: ...you were audited at Saint Hill . . . PC: Yes. LRH: ... have you done anything that you are withholding?
 
PC: Heavens! Thousands of things. LRH: All right.
 
Happens to be clean on the meter. PC: Okay. LRH: All right.
 
Okay. Well let it go at that. All right?
 
PC: Yes. LRH: Okay. Do you have a present time problem?
 
PC: No. LRH: I got a reaction on that. PC: Well, the only thing that occurred to me was that I really didn't want to get stuck with my early goal again. rd much rather have the other one I've got.
 
LRH: Oh. I see. All right.
 
All right. All right. Very good.
 
Let me check this on the meter. Do you have a present time problem? PC: Nothing I can think of.
 
LRH: That is clean. Thank you. Thank you.
 
Very good. All right. Now, what we're going to do here now . . .
 
Your rudiments are in. That's fine. What we're going to do here now is we're going to do a very fast Prepcheck with the middle rudiments on the subject of goals and so forth.
 
All right, the first thing we're going to check – we're going to start in right now. You came down to 2.6. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: With all that, by the way. And the first thing here is your – just the subject – just the word – I'm going to just check the word. I'm going to see it – say it and see if we get a reaction.
 
Goal. Thank you. Fine.
 
PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 9  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Now, I'm going to check one other word. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: Listing. All right. That's clean.
 
All right? PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Here we go.
 
The first question here is: On goals have you ever suggested anything PC: I think so, once. LRH: All right. PC: On a person at HASI, there was a prior read on a goal and I asked her, could her goal possibly be that?
 
LRH: All right. Okay. I'll check that on the meter now.
 
On goals have you ever suggested anything All right. That's clean. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: Thank you. Now, on goals have you ever had anything suggested? PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right. Doesn't read. What would you like?
 
PC: I just – what I told you earlier today, the thing that I said. LRH: Go ahead and say it. It's all right.
 
PC: Well, you suggested that my goal might be antisocial singer. LRH: All right. Very good.
 
Okay. Okay. Now, on – on goals . . .
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: ... have you ever suppressed anything? PC: Anger sometimes, when I was being run on that one.
 
LRH: All right. That's an equivocal read. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: But I'll check it now. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On goals have you ever suppressed anything?
 
I've got an action here that's just a little tiny bit late, but I'll have to take it into account. PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 10  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Can you think of anything else you suppressed on goals?
 
PC: Well, I thought – I was wondering whether I had suppressed anything else. I suppressed speaking to you sooner about it. LRH: All right.
 
All right. Thank you. I'll check that on the meter.
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On goals have you ever suppressed anything Ah, that's clean. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: All right? PC: Hm-hm. LRH: You don't think it is?
 
There's an upswing here. There was an upswing I'll call it an equivocal read. PC: Well, the only feeling I get is that I always get suspicious if I sort of get a bit cagey about something, in myself LRH: Hm-hm.
 
PC: And the thought of having to be run on that goal again, I sort of get a sort of “eek!” about it. LRH: All right. All right.
 
Okay. PC: However, but if I'm being run on the other one, I'm sort of going smoothly. But that one I think “ooah” not into that mess again.
 
LRH: All right. Okay. Here we go.
 
I'll check that again, just to be absolutely sure. On goals have you ever suppressed anything Ah, that's a sudden speeded rise. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: Can you think of anything else you've suppressed on goals? PC: Well, I suppose I just suppress that feeling I get, at the thought of that other goal. LRH: Hm-hm.
 
All right. Good. PC: I got a lot of sort of pain with it when I was being run on it down here.
 
Not physical pain, mental pain. LRH: All right. Very good.
 
I'll check it on the meter again. On goals have you ever suppressed anything That is clean. PC: Hm-hm.
 
TV DEMO: 11  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Thank you very much. All right, we've got this one, and we've got this one, and we've got this one. Now, let's take the next one.
 
On goals is there anything you have suppressed? PC: I don't think so. I told you as far as I know.
 
LRH: Yes. I got a reaction on it too. why does that give a reaction? PC: Well, I suppressed the pain, and I suppressed the uncomfortable, and I suppressed the anger.
 
Oh, I know what I thought. I had it on the telex, have I ever suppressed anything and – and I think it's on my telex it says had – had anything been suppressed, and I was puzzled. LRH: Well, all right.
 
Okay. I'll check that on the meter now. On goals is there anything you have suppressed?
 
That is clean. Thank you. Thank you.
 
There's a tiny latent. I'm not going to bother with it. All right.
 
On goals is there anything you have invalidated? PC: Well, I invalidated you. LRH: All right.
 
Okay. Very good. PC: At the time of that goal.
 
LRH: All right. Excellent. I'll check that on the meter now.
 
On goals is there anything you have invalidated? Equivocal read. PC: Hm-hm.
 
LRH: On goals is there anything you have invalidated? That is clean. Thank you.
 
All right. Now, on goals have you ever invalidated anyone else's? That's clean.
 
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: You thought of something latently. PC: I thought of something else.
 
LRH: What did you think of? PC: Well, I thought of – um – I was given – I was told something about a person's goal that was found down here by one person and I invalidated that person's speed in doing it. LRH: The person's speed?
 
PC: In doing it, because I said that I reckoned that we could do it faster. LRH: All right. PC: And then you told me more about it today.
 
And I felt guilty about it. LRH: I'm not quite with you there. TV DEMO: 12  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Oh, well, it – it was um – the goal Mary Sue found – found recently.
 
LRH: Oh, yeah? PC: Somebody – somebody told me how long it took her and I said, “Oh goodness, I'm sure we could – we could do it faster than that. “And then you told me certain other information about it today and I felt very guilty of having thought that and said it. LRH: Oh, I see.
 
All right. Let me check that then. On goals is there anything you have invalidated?
 
I got a slowdown. Think of something else? PC: Well, only – only that other – um – the one of – the goal I said to you that I suggested to that person when the – when the goal came up as the whole thing it was – it was, I think, to seduce every man I want, from this particular person.
 
I said, “Oh good heavens, it won't – it won't be that. I'm sure it will be something else.” And when I checked it there was only a prior read when it came to the seduce part. And I actually invalidated it before it came up to me to check it.
 
LRH: Oh. All right. Very good.
 
All right. Now, I'll check it on the meter now. All right.
 
On goals is there anything you have invalidated? Equivocal read. I'll have to ask you again.
 
On goals is there anything you have invalidated? That's clean as a wolf's tooth. Thank you very much.
 
All right. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? It's clean.
 
Thank you. On goals is there anything you have been careful of? Ah ha!


PC: Yes. LRH: I got a reaction there. PC: Well, I just thought it might be a bit embarrassing, as the goal we're going to look at is a domestic second dynamic goal and I just thought it might be a bit difficult with the people downstairs.
Now, what have you been careful of? PC: Been careful of ? LRH: There it is.


First time I thought of that. But uh . . . LRH: Okay.
PC: Of that feeling that I get. That sort of “eek!” feeling at the thought of that antisocial thing, singer thing. LRH: Yeah!


PC: It's all right. LRH: All right. Okay.
All right. All right. PC: I sort of have to catch myself on the big withdraw out.


Let me check it out on the meter here. Are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? PC: Yes.
LRH: Okay. All right. On goals is there anything you have been careful of?


LRH: All right. I haven't got no reaction there. That's clean though.
All right. There's a latent you might want to tell me about. PC: I was thinking about that again actually.


Now, since the last time I audited you . . . PC: Yes. LRH: . . . have you done anything you are withholding?
I know – I know what I thought. I thought, Oh, this will save Jenny having to do this. LRH: Um?


PC: No. LRH: I've got a clank here. There we are.
PC: I said this – doing this will save Jenny having to do it. LRH: Oh, she could do it easily. All right.


PC: Uh – sexual relationships since last time, I suppose, and I was withholding it. I've had sexual relationships since last time. LRH: Yeah.
Okay. Ill ask you again here. On goals is there anything you have been careful of?


Yeah. That's quite all right. Okay.
And that is clean. Thank you very much. All  TV DEMO: 13  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I right.


All right. Let me check it out on the meter. Since the last time I audited you have you done anything you are withholding All  TV DEMO: 3  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II right, that's . . .
On goals have you told any half-truths? Thank you. That is clean.


I'm not quite sure of this read. Let me ask it again. Since the last time I audited you have you done anything that you are withholding I've got a reaction.
On goals have you told any untruths? Thank you. That is clean.


PC: Photography. LRH: All right. PC: rue got some prints back today, some film and know you are interested, and I didn't know whether they were really good enough to show you.
On goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter? PC: Not consciously or deliberately that I know of. LRH: All right.


So I sort of hadn't said anything about those. I sort of thought them – thought about them. LRH: Okay.
Well check that again. It was a little bit of a late read. Well, on goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter?


All right. Since the last time I audited you have you done anything you are withholding? Got a reaction.
No. clean. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On goals have you tried not to influence an E-Meter?


Something else, it's not the same. There it is. There it is.
Clean. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.


There it is right there. PC: Well it seems to do with students leaving course, am . . . LRH: Anything else on that?
That appears to be okay. PC: Good. LRH: Now, we're going to take up the subject of listing.


PC: Well, I suppose I've tried to explain the – um – explain the – um – policy on students leaving course, and – um – not too sure whether I've explained it completely. LRH: Hm. PC: There's a doubt there, so of course I've withheld something LRH: All right.
We've got that straight and we didn't run into any real trouble there. We're getting your tone arm down here, ma'am. PC: Good.


Let me check that on the meter now. Since the last time I audited you have you done anything you are withholding It reacts. PC: Yes this is, yes, I've been beaten.
I've been seven running that other goal. LRH: Yeah? PC: About six times a session.


I – before I came up here, I knew I was coming up, I went to the bathroom, washed my hands. LRH: Right. PC: As I have a theory.
LRH: Yeah? PC: It's true. It's on the end rudiments.


It's been knocked out time and time again – that if you wash your hands when – before you come up, the read is different. It isn't, you see, I'm still reading 2.0. LRH: All right.
And he says it – d bring that session, and I go up to seven again. LRH: All right. Okay.


Okay. Very good. Let me check this out on the meter now.
Now, we're going to start in on listing All right. On listing – on listing is there anything you have suggested? PC: I seem to remember in one session that I was giving Norman that he asked me a word and I told it to him.


Since the last time I audited you have you done anything that you are withholding It reacts. It's a different reaction. PC: Um-mm.
He asked me a word for something. I couldn't swear to it totally and wholly. But, I seem to think there's something like that there.


Didn't know I was such a withholder. Um. LRH: There it is.
LRH: All right. Very good. On goals is there anything you have suggested?


There it is. There it is. PC: Oh, this is to do – this is – oh, we're going back a bit.
That's clean. It wasn't really there in the first time, it was a latent. PC: Hm-hm.


This is to do with the bungalow I'm thinking of renting now. LRH: All right. All right.
LRH: All right. You don't think I'm cleaning off latent reads. I'm calling it – if it falls after a quarter of a second.


TV DEMO: 4  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: In East Grinstead. LRH: Okay. All right.
All right. On listing is there anything you have failed to suggest? That's clean.


Since the last time I audited you have you done anything that you are withholding All right, I don't get a reaction on that now. PC: Good. LRH: Okay?
Thank you. On listing is there anything you have suppressed? Thank you.


All right. Do you have a present time problem? All right.
That is clean. On listing is there anything you have invalidated? Equivocal read.


There's no reaction on that. Okay. Now, I would like to do a rapid Prepcheck . . .
On listing is there anything you have invalidated? TV DEMO: 14  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: I'm thinking of one session which one of the auditors was giving in London, that I was supervising in the staff training. And – um – an item was got and there was something wrong with it.


PC: Hu-huh. LRH: ... on the middle rudiments if that's all right with you. PC: That's fine.
LRH: Hm-hm. PC: And I said to the auditor, no, that won't be it. We'll have to go on for that.


LRH: All right, and here is the first question: On goals have you ever suggested anything? I have to ask that again. PC: All right.
The – tha – that invalidated it at that stage. LRH: All right. I'm getting a fall on “on listing is there anything you have . . .” PC: I beg your pardon.


LRH: I'm going to do a little piece of fish and fumble here if that's all right with you. PC: Hu-huh. LRH: Because I've got a little tiny bounce which is interfering with a read or a checkout.
LRH: Yes. I don't know why. PC: Is there anything I'd what?


PC: Good. LRH: It's a sporadic bounce here. First thing I'm going to do is check the middle ruds Okay?
LRH: I don't know. I – I'm not trying to foul you up or anything like that, but the read is equivocal because on listing is there anything you have? You just thought of something, what's on . . .


PC: All right. LRH: In this session is there anything you have suppressed? Yes, what?
PC: Well, this is the same thing. This is – this incident that this – this chappy came up with. But I don't quite know what you mean by an equivocal read .


PC: Um – well bringing up the subject of Jenny and myself. LRH: All right. Very good.
LRH: Neither do I. PC: . . . an equivocal read. LRH: Oh, it means that it's not on the button PC: I see.


Let me check that on the meter. In this session is there anything you have suppressed? All right.
Hm-hm. LRH: It means it's just – I couldn't tell if it is clean or not clean. PC: I see.


That seems to be clean. In this session is there anything you have invalidated? Got a reaction.
LRH: See. There's a hunted read around it some place. PC: Oh.


PC: Well, I felt it was an invalidation when j said about washing my hands and the cans and so on. LRH: All right. All right.
Well, I've been puzzled what this equivocal read has been. LRH: Oh, all right. Okay.


Okay. Thank you. In this session is there anything you have invalidated?
Very good. All right. On listing is there anything you have invalidated?


Got a reaction. PC: Yes, when – when you said the um – rudiment was clean, the withhold rudiment, I thought – glory, I thought, I must have done much more than that and I've got away with it lightly. So I invalidated the check to that extent.
That's clean. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.


TV DEMO: 5  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: Very good. Thank you. All right.
On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal? Yes. Yes.


In this session is there anything you have invalidated? It's very equivocal here. Let me check it again.
PC: Well, I get two things there. All the items on my list that I haven't sted – yet said. LRH: Yes.


In this session is there anything you have invalidated? I got a reaction. There it is.
PC: And the fact that I – the way I was holding my cans pressing against my legs, I wondered if there was any reaction there. I've got those two things at the same time. TV DEMO: 15  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right.


There it is – right there. Right there. There.
Now, did that answer the question? PC: Well, when you said was there – on listing was there anything I'd failed to reveal, I just thought of all the items that I yet hadn't revealed on lists. LRH: Attaboy.


There. There. PC: Well, I suppose the meter to some extent here on um – when you asked me whether I was willing to talk to you about difficulties, again I felt I got away with a rudiment – an answer very lightly.
All right. Thank you very much. All right.


LRH: Okay. All right. Thank you.
On listing – I'll check it here . . . PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal?


In this session is there anything you have invalidated? All right, it's an equivocal read. In this session is there anything you have invalidated?
All right. Thank you. That's clean.


All right. That is still reading. PC: Invalidated myself when I heard that you got a – a difficult needle to read.
All right. On listing is there anything you have been careful of? And that is clean.


I felt there must be something wrong with me that . . . LRH: Oh, all right. PC: ... it should be reading badly.
Thank you. Now, on listing have you told any half-truths? And that is active.


LRH: Okay. All right. In this session is there anything you have invalidated?
PC: Something sort of shot by. LRH: Hm-hm. PC: I haven't sort of got it.


All right that is clean now. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? Yes.
LRH: There it is. PC: It's a sort of something here. LRH: There it is.


What? PC: Names. LRH: All right.
PC: I can't quite see what it is. LRH: There it is. There it is.


Okay. I'll check it on the meter. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?
PC: I can't think if I told any half-truths. LRH: There it is. PC: I don't get anything I'm conscious of something around, but I can't see what it is.


All right. That is cleaner, let me see if it's totally clean. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?
LRH: All right. I'll repeat the question. PC: Hm-hm.


All right, that's clean. All right. In this session is there anything you have been careful of?
LRH: Maybe it will occur to you. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On listing have you told any half-truths?


Equivocal read. PC: Uh-huh. LRH: I'll check it again.
PC: Well, the only thing I can think of that came to the surface then, was that um – on doing Routine 3D Criss Cross lists down here on my preclear um – on looking back now for what we know now, the lists weren't complete although at the time, of course, I said they were. LRH: Hm-hm. All right.


In this session is there anything you have been careful of? It's not reading as an instant read. PC: Um.
TV DEMO: 16  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: So, it's a half-truth. LRH: Excellent. Okay.


LRH: I'm still getting a – a weird runaround here, so we're now going to do this little bit of fish and fumble. Okay? PC: Right.
Let me check that on the meter now. On listing have you told any half-truths? And that is clean.


LRH: As far as rudiments, middle ruds are concerned, that – that's clean, but let me see something else here. What are you thinking of right that minute? PC: What do I – I feel I hadn't, um – if you'd asked me if the meter had reacted on some of these rudiments, I would have told you that when you first told me I was coming up here tonight, I was quite all right.
All right. Here's the next one, on listing have you told any untruths? That is clean.


But then sitting downstairs I gradually got a TV DEMO: 6  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II nervous feeling turned on, which is – was still present when I sat down in session. Now I don't know. LRH: All right.
Thank you. On listing have you deliberately tried to influence an E-Meter? And I got a reaction.


Okay. Now, needle's gliding around here beautifully now. PC: Good.
PC: Well, as an auditor I was hoping th – tha – that one item would be the one it was for the pc but it wasn't. LRH: All right. PC: That's about the nearest I can get to it.


LRH: But I'm still getting a little bit of odds and ends. Let's think over our present circumstances here. What did you just think of right there?
LRH: All right. Well, we'll see if that's it. PC: Mm.


PC: Well, the situation as far as my wife and my other relationships are concerned. LRH: All right. Okay.
LRH: On listing have you ever deliberately tried to influence an E-Meter? And that is clean. Thank you.


Now we're getting a bing, bing, as we go on this thing All right. What are you thinking of right there? PC: Well, that the goal we're going to check out has so much to do with all this, you see.
On listing have you ever tried not to influence an E-Meter? PC: No. LRH: Thank you.


LRH: All right. All right. All right.
All right. Very good, madam. I am going to ask you one more . . .


We've got an action here. PC: It's apprehension from me – in here. It's apprehension I think, on what this will dig up, and so on.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: ... on goals. PC: Hm-hm.


LRH: Uh-huh. Uh – there's a tiny little dirty needle sort of a bounce as you think about this particularity, and you say it's something about the goal. PC: Yes.
LRH: On goals have you ever tried to damage anyone? Thank you. That's clean.


LRH: Um. All right. I'm going to try to free the goal reaction on this.
On listing have you ever – on listing have you ever tried to damage someone? Thank you. That is clean.


But I'm getting a failed to reveal type of action. Is there anything you failed to reveal about this? Is there anything you failed to reveal about this?
On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command? Clang! Reaction.


Yes. Yes. PC: About what?
There it is. There it is. PC: Well, it seems to be something to do with one of the sessions that Maryann gave me.


LRH: Yeah, well, just about what I don't . . . PC: Ah, yes, right. Well, it's about Jenny and I.
But I can't think of failing to answer a question or command there. She was running me on – when we were doing those sort of group mores . . . LRH: Yeah.


LRH: All right. All right. Okay.
PC: ... thing But I don't remember failing to answer the question or command there. Unless I didn't run a – didn't answer a havingness command. LRH: There it is.


Bing, no, there we got that same reaction. There is the little dance, bing, bing, there it is. PC: This is – what is it – in the officer’s mess you never mention the lady's name – you see.
PC: Oh! There was one day I think um – when there was some confusion as whether she'd given me a havingness command or not or whether I'd answered two of them or one of them or three instead of two or one instead of three or something like that. TV DEMO: 17  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right.


LRH: I see. I see. Is that what it is?
Okay. Let me check it. On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command?


Is this something about the mention of this name? PC: Suppression of the name, and uh – uh – well, suppression of anything that might embarrass Jenny. LRH: Oh, I see.
And that is clean. Thank you. Okay.


AH right. All right. Good enough.
On listing have you ever failed to answer a question or command? And that is clean. Thank you.


Now, I'm not going to go further with this . . . TV DEMO: 7  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: All right. LRH: ... because I have done a little something here and it's apparently definitely associated with the goal . . .
All right. We are all set here. Now, I'm going to get my middle ruds in.


PC: Hm-mm. LRH: . . . something like this. So I'm not going to do anything further with it, unless I find it impossible to read through this thing PC: Okay.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. In this session have you suppressed, invalidated?


LRH: Okay? PC: Uh-huh. LRH: All right.
And what have you invalidated in this session? PC: I invalidated you at the beginning. LRH: All right.


Here's the first question. On goals have you ever suggested anything? Equivocal.
PC: But I didn't intend to. LRH: All right. PC: I said I hoped this wouldn't happen and it was very rude of me.


On goals have you ever suggested anything Probably null. On goals is there anything you have suggested? All right.
LRH: Okay. Thank you. All right.


We get a reaction on goals. But uh . . . PC: This is to do with – what I was thinking of then . . .
In this session have you invalidated anything? That's clean. Thank you.


LRH: Yeah, go ahead. PC: ... was my daughter's goal who – when she wants to start a career, and so on, I was sort of suggesting things to her then. LRH: Hm.
In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? And that is clean. In this session is there anything you have been careful of?


PC: That's what came up. LRH: All right. Good enough.
Thank you. And that is clean. All right.


Good enough. All right. I'll check it again.
Very good. All right. Now, just for a moment here I am going to do a little operation known as Fish and Fumble.


On goals is there anything you have suggested? No reading on that. All right.
Okay? Because we've got an occasional tick wandering around here and I am just wondering what that is all about. And there it is right there.


On goals is there anything you had suggested? That reacts. Have you had something suggested to you on goals?
What were you thinking of? There it is. PC: I was thinking of the camera.


PC: Well, people have always suggested what I should do, but this does not – not as applicable to goals in Scientology – goals in – in life, people always had to suggest things to me. LRH: Good enough. On goals is there anything you've had suggested?
LRH: All right. Thank you. Now think of the camera.


All right. That's clean. On goals is there anything you have suppressed?
PC: It's not that one. LRH: Which one? PC: It's this one I saw in the – as a picture in this bedroom in the Christmas of either 1959 or 1960.


Yes. PC: Well I think I've suppressed any doubts about – or tried to suppress anyway – doubts about this goal of mine being my goal or being the goal. I've sort of batted for the side on that.
LRH: Oh, yeah? PC: It was just a picture up on the wall, not on the wall. It was a picture that I saw . . .


LRH: All right. Very good. Let me check that now.
LRH: Uh-uh. PC: . . . you know, in my bank. It was pressed against the wall.


On goals is there anything you have suppressed? Reacts. Anything else?
LRH: All right. Good enough. PC: Hm-hm.


TV DEMO: 8 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: Oh, this has to do with a student's goal that I checked out, and I wasn't too sure about it. And I think I suppressed my uncertainty on the – on the checkout. Something that proved all right, by the way, but to be honest I wasn't really sure.
And it reminded me of the thing on the Paramount thing – they twist the movie camera around and say the eyes and the ears of the world. But I often  TV DEMO: 18 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I wondered whether it was a Fac One thing or something because I felt so sick for the rest of the day. LRH: All right.


LRH: Okay. All right. On goals is there anything you have suppressed?
All right. Why don't we just fumble around with this for a minute here. PC: Hm-hm.


All right. That is clean. Thank you.
LRH: Camera. Picture. PC: I don't like having my photograph taken.


On goals is there anything you have invalidated? All right, there's no read there. Thank you.
LRH: All right. Something there – you thinking of something right there? What's that?


Now, on goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right, let me check that again. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal?
PC: Well, that's the feeling I get when somebody wants to take my photograph. LRH: Oh yeah, yeah. PC: Hm.


I got a reaction. PC: Well, what I think of is, more or less – yes, failed to reveal – was that at one time this goal was checked out by an auditor and was said to be clear. Thought it was clean, we'd finished it when we were running the old type processes on it, and we did start to list again for a new goal.
I have the same feeling LRH: All right. Well, you ever taken people's photographs? PC: Oh, a few times, not all that much.


LRH: Oh, yeah. PC: And I don't know if I've ever really got this over to anybody. LRH: All right.
LRH: Yeah. That's deader than a mackerel. PC: Hm-hm.


Okay. Thank you. All right.
LRH: Have you ever hidden any photographs? Heh-heh-heh-heh, here we got it, here we got it. What about hiding photographs?


On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? I've got a reaction there, a slowdown and then a knock. There.
PC: Well, I don't know. I remember haring a f – a – a – a fascination when somebody told me that Eugene Goosens, a famous musician in Australia, brought pornographic literature in and he hid it, underneath his clothes and his bags and got thrown out of Australia for me – for it. And this sort of fascinated me.


There. Right there. PC: Oh, this is the – that's the uncertainty that I had when I – the first goals that I found when on the course here.
LRH: Yes, yes, yes. We've got something here. Thank you.


And I'd get them to read, and then you sort of doubt, and then you'd be wheeled down to Mary Sue or somebody to check them out and they would check out. And then I think I failed to reveal at the time my surprise. I wished to be very nonchalant about it and say, well of course, and so on.
All right. Did you yourself ever hide any photographs? There it is.


LRH: Yes. PC: But I think I failed to reveal that I wasn't all that certain at the time. LRH: All right.
PC: I don't think I ever hid that one, that's a piect . . . LRH: Pang! Pang!


Thank you. Okay. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal?
PC: ... that's a picture of me when I was – that's a picture of me when I was about one. LRH: Good. PC: I don't think I ever hid it.


All right, that's probably clean. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? It's very, very hard to tell whether or not this – this did that.
LRH: All right. Well, did you ever hide any photographs? PC: I used to play with photographs.


Let me check it one more time. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? That's clean.
Mother used to have tins full of them. I used to play and look – look them over and put them in and out of photograph albums and I don't think I ever hid any. I remember doing this at a very early age.


Thank you. It was your deep breath that did it. Now, on goals is there anything you have been careful of?
TV DEMO: 19  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Hm-hm. PC: I don't recall hiding any of them. But I get an odd feeling in the diaphragm.


I got a reaction. PC: Been very careful not to invalidate anybody's goal, or the method of finding it, or anything like that. LRH: Good.
LRH: All right, well . . . PC: I think it's this life. LRH: All right.


Thank you. On goals is there anything you have been careful of? I'm going to check that one more time.
Well, let's fish around a little bit and see if you got anything earlier than that, about hiding photographs. That's it. We got our little ping-pang here just as nice as you ever saw.


On goals is there anything you have been careful of? Can you think of another answer to that? TV DEMO: 9  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: Well, what I was thinking was that that wasn't – that was a good answer, and I think when I'd given you one, precious one, that I'd been careful and I'd been very good, and I thought well that shouldn't be reacting There should be something else there, and that's as far as I'd got then.
PC: Hiding photographs? LRH: Yes, hiding photographs. PC: I wanted to hide photographs.


Um . . . LRH: Something right there. There.
LRH: All right. PC: I couldn't stand them all over on the mantelpiece and I couldn't – I – I couldn't bear the family photographs on all the mantelpieces, and I would have liked to and I never did. Mother wouldn't put any of them away.


There. PC: Well, this is being too careful, being too careful in checking out goals and probably taking too long over it and keeping – this is, this is it – keeping in goals on a list that you are suspicious of, but – but really if you knew your job, they would be out. Being too careful in assessing LRH: All right.
LRH: All right. All right. Now have you ever hidden any?


Very good. On goals is there anything you have been careful of? I've still got a reaction here.
There it is. PC: I've hidden from having one taken. LRH: All right.


There it is. PC: Well, that's all it was. I've always been careful to let everybody know what my goal was.
All right. All right. But have you yourself, ever hidden any photographs?


LRH: All right. All right. Okay.
There it is. PC: I get a sort of odd concept of a – of some pictures in a pile . . . LRH: Hm-hm.


All right, let me check it. On goals is there anything you have been careful of? All right.
PC: ...you know. But I don't - I don't know anything more about it than that. This is a bit of a mess in the picture of – of these in a pile there.


This is apparently flat. Okay? PC: Thank you.
LRH: What kind of pictures? PC: Well, black photographic plates. LRH: All right.


LRH: All right. Now, on goals have you ever told a half-truth? Yes.
PC: Oh! I have a feeling its me photographs, yes, in my bank. LRH: Umm?


PC: Oh dear, this is sad. Um . . . LRH: There it is.
PC: In my bank. My bank has got all these photographs in – in long, long photographic plates. LRH: Yeah.


Right there. PC: Oh yes, this is something Mary Sue asked me one day. Yes, I checked out a Goals Assessment one day, and I did it at sensitivity 16, which I thought was right.
TV DEMO: 20  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: They're all compressed. They're hidden in the bank. LRH: Oh yeah?


Then I went down and Mary Sue said, “You checked this with a full-dial drop?” So I said, “Oh yes, “you see, and knowing I was lying, or half lying, lying as it was, but I – I d id this at the time and I couldn't qu – couldn't quite make out why because it would be quite all right to tell Mary Sue I'd done it at 16. But I – the way she put it, it was the right thing to do, the full-dial drop, but this, at that time, was news to me, do you see? I had to be right, so to that degree there was a half-truth there.
PC: Yes. LRH: All right. PC: I've hidden photographs, of that sort!


LRH: All right. Very good. On goals have you ever told a half-truth?
LRH: All right. All right. Very good.


I've got to ask that again. On goals have you ever turned a – told a half-truth? Something's going on here.
Very good. When was that? PC: Oh, what a question to ask.


On goals have you ever told a half-truth? Well frankly . . . PC: Uh-huh?
Millions of times. LRH: Hm. All right.


LRH: ... it's firing at half. PC: At half ? TV DEMO: 10  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: And it's not firing at half-truth.
Spot me just one. PC: Um? LRH: Just one. one time.


So we're going to consider that null. Okay? PC: Okay.
PC: Well, I hid that picture of the camera I suppose, in that – in the bedroom in 1959. I've blotted it out again. LRH: All right.


LRH: All right. Now, on goals have you ever told an untruth? There's no reaction there.
Thank you. Thank you. Is that all there was to it at that time?


Okay? Now, on goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter? Oh there's something, something on that.
No? PC: No. Except feeling sick, that was all there was to it.


On goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter? I'll ask it again, it's latent. On goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter?
LRH: Very good. And what might have appeared? PC: Oh, Fac One stuff LRH: All right.


No, there's no reaction on that. Thank you. All right.
Very good. And who didn't find out about it? PC: Well, there were about six people who did.


On goals have you ever tried to damage someone? Something there. PC: Well, my goal is to damage someone.
Nobody else did. Nobody at all except those six people who were there on that Christmas day that I went to visit these people. LRH: All right.


LRH: All right. All right. All right.
Well, who didn't find out about it? PC: Well, my mother didn't. You didn't.


Let me check that again. On goals have you ever tried to damage someone? All right.
I never told an auditor before. LRH: All right. PC: I just thought.


No read. All right. On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command?
LRH: All right. Very good. Very good.


It dances on that one. PC: Well, I thought of all the times when Mike was auditing me on the goal itself, and we sat out there for hours and he d id a good job of it, but we d didn’t have the rudiments we have now, but I think some of those questions and commands must have gone unanswered. LRH: All right.
Now, let me check this question. What about hiding photographs? All right.


Very good. On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command? All right, there's a reaction there on command.
There is a speeded rise here on it now. Now, is there any early period in your life when you tucked one out of sight? There's something.


There it is. PC: This was the session I've got that was given by Robin. I think it was that session that I sort of doped off for a while, and I'm not sure that I'd answered all the – I can't say that I answered the command then.
PC: I've trimmed one, chopped one. LRH: You did what? TV DEMO: 21  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Cut one you know, trimmed it.


LRH: Hm-hm. All right. On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command?
Oh, wait a minute! What a – what a nutty thing, of course! If you like to look at it that way, I had some picture frames at home in which sometimes I used to – it was – there would be one photograph and when I got sick of that, I'd put another one on top of it, so the one underneath got hidden.


All right. That's clean. All right.
LRH: Oh, all right. All right. All right.


Now, I'm going to do the middle ruds for this session. PC: All right. LRH: Okay.
When was that? PC: Ah, gosh. That must have been about 1938, or a little earlier.


In this session is there anything you have suppressed? Invalidated? What have you invalidated in this session?
LRH: All right. Very good. And is there any more to that?


There it is. PC: Well, myself again. I've done it again, I´ve thought about this – your difficulty in reading the needle.
PC: There was this particular photograph of myself that I didn't like. LRH: Hm-hm. PC: And I think that was one I hid.


This isn't – is something I shouldn't have, and I'm not proud of it, and I'm invalidating myself on that. LRH: Okay. Very good.
LRH: All right. Very good. And what might have appeared there?


Let me check this on the meter now. In this session have you – is there anything you have invalidated? Yes.
PC: Oh, people saying, “Oh dear, what a lovely photograph.” LRH: All right. Very good. And who should have found out about it?


PC: Well, there is a tendency, I suppose, to try not to, as well – that was Mike when he was – Mike's auditing of me. TV DEMO: 11  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. PC: And also Robin, Robin of course.
PC: The person who gave me the photograph. I think it was my Aunt May. LRH: All right.


LRH: All right. PC: Um-hm. LRH: All right.
Very good. Thank you. Let me check this question.


Okay. I'll check that on the meter. In this session is there anything you have invalidated?
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: What about hiding photographs? There's a tiny tick as we go by.


All right. Very equivocal. Let me ask it again.
PC: Hm-hm. Well, I could never make out why I had this absolute extraordinary puzzlement over this – this man who'd brought this pornographic literature into Australia. And I remember Father talking to me about pornographic literature, but I've never even seen any.


In this session is there anything you have invalidated? I don't get a read on that. All right.
LRH: All right. PC: And I could never make it out and this always puzzled me. LRH: Hm-hm.


In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right, that's clean. In this session is there anything you have been careful of?
PC: That's – that's – that's what`s came back to that time. LRH: All right. All right.


All right, that is clean. Thank you. Now, we're going to ask this goal.
Let me check this. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: What about hiding photographs?


Now, the goal, if I remember rightly, was “To leave my wife,” right? PC: That's right. LRH: Very good.
This is – this is looking cleanish. PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 22  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: But, let me ask you now – there's a couple of times . . .


Now, let's just check it just on the face of it. All right. To leave my wife.
All right. What about hiding photographs? I get a slowdown.


Okay. No reaction. To leave my wife.
PC: Well, I've got the feeling that there must be still something there, because I'm quite puzzled on this and I feel that there is something around that's hidden, but I haven't a clue myself what it is. LRH: Well, is there any earlier incident? Is there any earlier incident on this?


Okay. To leave my wife. Okay.
Did you hide some of those photographs that were in the trunk? PC: I took some of them. I didn't hide them.


To leave my wife. All right. There's the tiniest, almost imperceptible slowdown when we get into that, but otherwise no reaction.
I told Mother I wanted some and some I didn't want and could I – I took them and put them in my own photograph album. Some of them are still there. LRH: All right.


So let's do the middle ruds on this. PC: Hm, good. LRH: All right.
All right. PC: Don't think they are particularly hidden as such. LRH: Good.


On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have suppressed? Yes. There.
All right. Let me check this now. What about hiding photographs?


There. There. PC: Well, I´ve suppressed, um – suppressed carrying it out.
Man, there it is, in full bloom. There it is. There it is.


LRH: All right. Okay. Good enough.
PC: Well, that's the picture of the um . . . LRH: There it is. PC: That's the picture of the machine room – our printing office in Australia . . .


On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have suppressed? All right, that's clean. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have invalidated?
LRH: Hm-hm. PC: ... where we do our printing. I didn't hide any photographs there that I know of.


All right. I'll ask that question again. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have invalidated?
LRH: All right. All right. There's something . . .


There's a slowdown there. PC: Um – I've invalidated its correctness on the grounds that it's possibly – um – too present time-ish to be of any real value on that ground . Although I've also realized it can be quite a long-term – long-track goal, but that's what I have tended to do.
PC: Funny feeling in my head. LRH: There's something right there. You just thought of something PC: I got a picture of the machinery and this funny feeling in my head and I thought of machines.


LRH: All right. Okay. Good.
LRH: Did you do anything to that machine? PC: Well, there's lots of machines. There are probably about fifteen.


On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have invalidated? All right, the read is quite latent. Well ask it again, however.
I don't think I did anything to the machines. LRH: All right. Did you do anything to the photographs?


On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have invalidated? No. That's it.
PC: There were a whole lot of rather outdated posters on the wall that had photographs in it that I would liked to have pulled off But, I just suddenly thought of some lithography – um – big lithography stones that we had, that had photographs on the inside. And I wasn't supposed to touch them and I turned them over and looked at  TV DEMO: 23  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I them and I was told I mustn't – I must be very careful because they shouldn't be broken. LRH: Hm-hm.


On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There's a reaction. TV DEMO: 12  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: Failed to reveal I've almost done it.
All right. PC: And we used to do some color printing. LRH: All right.


LRH: All right. Very good. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have failed to reveal?
Did you ever hide any of those? PC: There's lots of things with – to do with blocks and things. LRH: All right.


All right; that is clean. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have been careful of? Equivocal read, can you think of anything offhand?
Did you ever hide any of those? PC: No. I played with them when I shouldn't.


PC: Well, I've been careful not to upset my wife anymore than I can possibly help. LRH: All right. Very good.
LRH: All right. Pang! Pang!


Very good. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have been careful of? I got a reaction.
What did you just think of? Pang! PC: I thought of a block, a printing block.


PC: Children. LRH: All right. Very good.
You know, the um – um – the ones that you do with acid. LRH: Well, all right. Let's see if we can pick up something earlier than this.


On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have been careful of? That is clean. Thank you.
What about hiding photographs? PC: Well, the thing that came to mind very early when you were talking to me about this was – I was over in an auditing session in 1950 – 63, 54 and I ran into that thing with the photograph within the photograph within the photograph. LRH: Hm-hm.


All right. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.
PC: And, I ran into that a bit and he asked – he talked about cameras . . . LRH: Hm-hm. PC: ... and um – and I thought of that when you – when you started – at the beginning of that – that passed through my mind.


To leave my wife. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.
But there was nothing about stealing photographs there. There might have been doing things to people with photographs. LRH: Hm-hm.


To leave my wife. All right. I'm going to check a line. who or what would oppose the goal to leave my wife?
All right. PC: I'm sorry, hiding photographs. Hm-hm.


Who or what would oppose the goal to leave my wife? Who or what would not oppose the goal to leave my wife? Okay.
Hm-hm. LRH: Let me look this over. Let me look this over.


Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife? I'll ask that again. Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife?
Let's look over this exact question now. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: What about hiding photographs?


Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife? Is there anything you failed to reveal about listing this goal? PC: Only that the – um – it was done from a short list.
All right. As far as I am concerned that's null. PC: Hm-hm.


Found out it wasn't a short list really, I mean, I think it was two or three hundred goals. Um . . . LRH: There's something PC: Well, there I was thinking of when Mary Sue was checking it out, that a – there was one or two embarrassing goals at the time.
LRH: Now let's take up uh . . . Think around about something or other. PC: I don't know.


Since I've seen some others, it wasn't so, but I always remember this particular goal that Mary Sue read out and it rather shook me when Mary Sue read it to me, you see, with her perfect TR 0, or something. LRH: All right. Okay.
I thought the thing wasn't null. TV DEMO: 24  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Uh? PC: I thought it hadn't been null actually.


Well, let me read that on the meter. All right. On listing this goal is there anything you have failed to reveal?
And I kept thinking about the photographs now, because I'm very intrigued to know what was making it react. LRH: All right. I get a stick now.


All right, that's clean enough. PC: Um-hm. LRH: All right.
Well, you've taken the double stick off of it. I don't know how, but we've taken it off. But it'll doing something else with photographs that we're interested in here, I think.


Now, on writing the items down for this goal, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There's a little bit of a something here. PC: I wasn't quite sure, because I couldn't recall writing any items down . . .
Doing something else with photographs Have you done something else with photographs? All right. Or have you done something else with pictures?


LRH: All right. TV DEMO: 13  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: ... for this goal. LRH: All right.
Ah – pictures. PC: Well, I've blotted them out. LRH: Pictures.


Thank you. Then I'll change the question. PC: Um-hm.
Mental image pictures. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Clang!


LRH: On listing a line for this goal, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There's nothing there. All right.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Clang! Mental image pictures.


On the original terminals list for this goal, is there anything you have failed to reveal? PC: Well, that – well, that terminals . . . Now, I can recall your – you listed these terminals for me in the – in your office downstairs.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Yeah. We got a reaction here.


LRH: Um-mm. PC: That was a short list. LRH: Um-hm.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: We got another reaction here. PC: It's sort of like my mental image pictures are all – are like great big – in patches I get them in, like photographic plates . . .


PC: Um – but – um – don't think there was anything else I failed to reveal there. LRH: All right. Very good, very good.
LRH: Yeah, yeah. PC: ... and they all get compressed up. And I see them occasionally like that.


All right. On listing on this goal is there anything you have failed to reveal? Doesn't read.
Sometimes they're little ones, but sometimes they're great long ones and I can see halls and halls and halls of them. LRH: All right. Well, let me fumble around here, for a minute here.


Okay. All right. Now, let's take up a little bit more about this.
What about mental image pictures? What about doing things to mental image pictures? There is our reaction.


On listing for goals, have you suggested anything Yes. What? PC: Suggested that people shouldn't do them out of session.
Can you answer that question? What about doing things to mental image pictures? PC: Oh!


LRH: All right. PC: Hm. LRH: Good.
I can think of about three possibilities. Not-ising people's sort of mock-ups that they put up to – as ideas to – that they think are good and you sort of say uhh-huh. And um – sort of squeezing them up.


All right. On listing for goals have you suggested anything? That's clean.
And I also thought when I first came into Scientology that um – a mental image picture was quite different from what it turned out to be. I thought they had to be as solid as this room. TV DEMO: 25  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Hm-hm.


Thank you. On listing is there anything you have suggested? A little halt.
PC: And it took me about three years to discover, that at first of all they weren't. LRH: Oh, all right. PC: And um – I always wanted to paint.


PC: Well, only a silly little thing comes up. LRH: What's that? PC: That people, when they list them, leave c margin for the checkout for the auditor to tick them off LRH: Okay.
And then I suddenly had a – I thought at the time – that period – that until my mental image pictures got better . . . LRH: Hm-hm. PC: ...I-I wouldn't be able to paint or draw.


All right. On listing have you suggested anything All right, that's clean. All right.
LRH: All right. Okay. Now, have you ever done anything to a mental image picture?


On listing have you suppressed anything? All right, that's clean. On listing have you invalidated anything?
Pang- pang There we are. There it is. Bang-bang PC: Well, that's a mental image picture of mine, of a whole big filing cabinet of what I call one junky piece of my bank that had all cobwebs over it . . .


There's a reaction. Have you invalidated anything on listing? TV DEMO: 14  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: I invalidated, I suppose to some extent, whether my lists – um – was long enough.
LRH: All right. PC: ... and I cleaned it up. LRH: You cleaned this up?


That was – I did that today when I saw downstairs you'd put a notice on the board – where I did that today. LRH: All right. On listing have you invalidated anything?
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. When was that?


All right, that's clean. On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right.
PC: That would have been September of 1959. LRH: All right. Thank you.


It's probably clean, but I'll check it again. On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right, that's clean.
All right. Is that all there is to that? PC: I think I whitewashed it.


All right. On listing is there anything you have been careful of? Yes.
LRH: All right. PC: It was my reactive bank filing cabinets and I didn't like it very much. LRH: All right.


What have you been careful of? PC: Careful to make my pen writing legible, which it always isn't. LRH: All right.
And who failed to find out about this? PC: Well, you did. Any other auditor except the auditor who audited me at the time.


Very good. All right. On listing is there anything you have been careful of?
LRH: All right. Did that auditor find out about it? PC: Yes.


Still a reaction. Different reaction. There it is.
As far as I know. I told her I whitewashed it. I sort of got the concept of painting the outside to make it look clean.


There it is. Right there. PC: This is – um – outside of Scientology altogether, and it is listing items in a book which was a false postage book.
LRH: All right. Thank you. And uh . . .


Names of people, you see, and you make a long list out and all these people are supposed to have letters. This wasn't an overt against the firm or anything, it was an overt against the government, you see. LRH: All right.
PC: The inside wasn't clean though unfortunately . . . LRH: Oh, all right. All right.


PC: It was a way of getting some expenses. But I remember laboriously doing this. Yes.
PC: ... that still contained the junk. TV DEMO: 26  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right. Now, let's take a – take a look at this now, this question here.


LRH: Okay. All right. On listing, on listing is there anything you have failed to reveal?
What about doing things to mental image pictures? I got the double reaction here. Very nice. can you think of an earlier instance where you've done something to a mental image picture?


Yes. What? PC: Well, I – what I failed to reveal is right just now, that I felt quite a sense of relief when I told you that about that postage book.
There, you're right on something there. PC: Well, that was an auditing session in 1953 when I had some mental image picture of a procession of monks going to throw bodies into a volcano and I never got it back again and I blotted it out I suppose. I've never seen it again.


LRH: All right. Very good, very good. All right.
LRH: All right. All right. Thank you.


Let me backtrack one. PC: All right. LRH: On listing is there anything you have invalidated?
Let me check this question now. What about doing things to mental image pictures? All right.


All right, that's good. On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right, that's clean.
I got a slightly speeded rise there. Can you think of another thing you have done to mental image pictures? PC: Well, sometimes I have seen pictures and I didn't really like them very much, so I sort of said “Oh, goodness,” and put a screen up or put a bit of blackness up or something like that.


All right. On listing is there anything you have been careful of? Now, there's a slowdown there again.
LRH: All right. Okay. Now, let me check this question.


PC: I was careful to do that list – so careful that I used different pens, and so the color – if anybody was checking this, you see, they wouldn't say this was all done on the same day with the ink. The ink was all different color. It was clever.
What about doing things to mental image pictures? There's the double reaction. A tiny double reaction.


LRH: All right. Very, very good. All right.
There's two reactions here. one is a wide one and this is a tiny one. We're getting them both on this subject. There it is right there.


On listing is there anything you have been careful of? That is clean. Thank you.
PC: I was thinking of mental images. LRH: It's what? PC: I was thinking of mental images and images.


I'm sorry to backtrack on this. All right, that's all right though. Very good.
LRH: All right. Well, have you done something to them? PC: Images?


Now, on listing have you told any half-truths? All right, TV DEMO: 15  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II that's clean. On listing have you told any untruths?
Not . . . LRH: Mental image pictures. PC: Well, the only other thing I can think of, other than the fact I was thinking about mental images or images, was that I've not-ised them.


All right, that's clean. On listing have you deliberately tried to influence an E-Meter? I got a reaction of some sort, but just riding through that so I'll ask again.
LRH: All right. Very good. When's the first time you recall doing this?


On listing have you deliberately tried to influence an E-Meter? No, all right, that's clean. On listing have you failed to answer a question or command?
There it is. PC: I think it's this 1953 thing. LRH: All right.


All right, that's clean. All right. Thank you.
Very good. And uh . . . PC: I didn't know anything about it before that.


Now, on listing have you tried to damage someone? Yes. Who did you try to damage on listing?
LRH: Well, is that all there is to that? PC: As far as I know. We never got the incident moving or anything.


There it is. There it is. PC: Bobby comes to mind, but I can't get any time I did it.
LRH: All right. What is this? A failed incident?


LRH: Who? PC: Bobby McPherson. LRH: Oh, all right.
TV DEMO: 27  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: There was a couple of failed ones with that auditor. Was the first auditor I ever had in 1953. LRH: All right.


Okay, well, let's check it. What are you puzzled about? PC: I can't say.
Very good. And what didn't appear there? PC: Whether I had poked somebody's eyes out or got my own poked out.


LRH: All right. All right. On listing have you tried to damage someone?
LRH: All right. All right. And who didn't find out about this?


All right, that's clean. PC: All right. LRH: Just to clarify your own mind about it, what were you – what were you worrying about there?
PC: Me and the auditor. LRH: All right. Very good.


PC: Well, I couldn't get the time when I had tried to damage Bobby. She came to mind when you asked the question, which I told you basically and I couldn't – anyhow, I wanted to find out the time when I'd actually done this. LRH: Well, does this leave you hung up on it?
Now this is just a little test question here. was there a missed withhold in that session? I don't find so particularly. PC: Hm-hm.


PC: No, no, no, I'm quite happy. LRH: Are you sure? PC: Oh, no, I'm quite happy if the needle is clean on it.
LRH: You do think of one? PC: No, I think there was a missed withhold with him in another question – in another session. But I think that was got to.


Relieved in fact that I haven't got to go around digging and delving. LRH: All right. Okay.
LRH: Well, what was the missed withhold in the other session? PC: Well, he told me to go to the beginning of an incident. And – but that equated to me “cry”. so, for years I thought that every auditor who wanted to audit me, was going to get me to cry.


Needle's clean. PC: Good. LRH: Just didn't want to leave you hung up.
And until this was pulled off me, I always had that consideration. LRH: All right. Very good.


PC: That's okay. LRH: All right. On listing have you failed to answer a question or command?
Very good. All right. Now, let me check this question again.


Question. You failed to answer a question on this? PC: I tried to answer that question just now.
What about doing things to mental image pictures? It looks clean. All right.


TV DEMO: 16  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. Very good. PC: Thank you for listening.
What do you think about all this now? PC: It seems so innocent. LRH: It does seem innocent doesn't it?


LRH: Okay. On listing have you failed to answer a question or command? That is clean.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Your tone arm is down here to 2.25. Needle's a little floppier.


Very, very good. All right, that being clean, we will now put in our middle ruds for the session. All right.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. We're gonna check out a goal.


In this session is there anything you have suppressed? In this session is there anything you have invalidated? Yes.
Okay? PC: Hm-hm. LRH: I just took a random read off here, that kept banging You may have some more, but we're not terribly interested, I'm just trying to get – get the thing going Now, this goal that you had . . .


PC: I just invalidated – I – while you were reading the suppressed I had the thought, well, I've got it so mocked up there's a filthy needle over there. LRH: There's not a filthy needle now. PC: No, I thought, well that's what it is.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: . . . was “to go to war.”  TV DEMO: 28  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Correct?


It will give the students a good chance to show how to read through one. So there was some – I was invalidating that thought. LRH: All right.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: To go to war. All right.


Very good, very good. It isn't too bad. It cleans up as I go here.
Now, very rapidly, we're going to get in middle ruds again. All right. In this session is there anything you have suppressed, invalidated?


PC: Good. LRH: In this session is there anything you have invalidated? All right.
And what's that? PC: I didn't think of invalidated, I thought of suppressed. I sort of was comm lagging a little bit.


Thank you. That's all right. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?
LRH: You got an instant read on invalidated. PC: Um. LRH: What did you invalidate in this session?


Yes. PC: Failed to reveal the fact that just as I was coming up here, bashed into Jenny and she says, “Good luck. “And I thought “Will you shut up, “you know, and stir everything up. LRH: All right.
There it is. PC: Well, I thought then, I hope it checks out all right. I'd hate my auditor to be – to be invalidated.


Very good. All right. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?
LRH: Oh, all right. Thank you very much. All right.


All right. There was a change of pace in the needle. Let me make sure that is clean.
All right. I'm going to check the whole middle rud. In this session is there anything you have suppressed, invalidated, failed to reveal or been careful of?


In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? I got a change of pave of the needle. Is there any little other thing you failed to reveal in the session?
Thank you very much. It's all clean. Now, on the goal to go to war, has anything been suppressed?


There's something right there. PC: That my hands were sweating at one time. LRH: All right.
That's clean. On the goal to go to war, has anything been invalidated? That is clean.


PC: Or still are, for that matter. LRH: Okay. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?
On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There's a tiny slowdown there. Almost imperceptible.


No read. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? That's all right, that's all right.
PC: There's a withhold I've-have got from the auditor . . . LRH: Yes, what is it? PC: ... that she hasn't had a chance to get yet because I haven't had another session.


That's fine. In this session is there anything you have been careful of? Yes.
LRH: All right. PC: But I wondered, whether she'd be able to get me through it. LRH: Very good.


What have you been careful of? PC: Careful to do what you told me. LRH: All right.
All right. Thank you. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal?


Okay. All right. Let me check that on the meter.
All right. That's apparently okay. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have been careful of?


In this session is there anything you have been careful of? That. More.
All right. Got an odd reaction there. I couldn't tell whether that was a read or not a read.


TV DEMO: 17  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: More? Um . . . LRH: What else have you been careful of?
What's this that's just happened here? PC: I was wondering whether it was reacting and I thought of that goal you found on me and wondered why you weren't checking it too. LRH: Oh, all right.


PC: Oh yes, been careful to try and find um – the – an overt rather than the motivator, or anything like that. LRH: Oh, all right. All right.
All right. On the goal to go to war is there anything you have been careful of? All right.


Thank you. In this session is there anything you have been careful of? All right, that's clean.
That is clean. All right. TV DEMO: 29  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I Now, we're going to say the goal a few times.


Okay. All right, now here's this goal again. PC: All right.
To go to war. Thank you. To go to war.


LRH: All right. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.
It read the first time. PC: Mm-mm. LRH: To go to war.


To leave my wife. To leave my wife. All right.
To go to war. To go to war. All right.


I'm going to try one more thing. Is there anyone to whom you have not revealed this goal? PC: My wife.
How much listing has been done on this goal? PC: About five sessions. LRH: Five sessions worth of listing?


LRH: All right. Thank you. Thank you.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. How do you feel after five sessions worth of listing?


To leave my wife. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.
PC: Oh, tremendously much better. LRH: All right. PC: It's made an enormous difference.


I get a little slowdown. You might tell me if there's anyone else that you failed to reveal this goal to. PC: My brother, my children.
LRH: All right. Let me check it again. PC: Hm-hm.


LRH: All right. Okay. PC: Relatives.
LRH: On the goal to go to war, is there anything that has been suppressed? All right. On the goal to go to war, is there anything that has been invalidated?


LRH: All right. Thank you. I'll check that on the meter.
All right. That's okay. On the goal to go to war is there anything you have been ca – failed to reveal?


Is there anyone that you failed to reveal this goal to? Is there anyone you failed to reveal this goal to? I get action here. who else?
All right. You got reaction on that. Probably my question – fault.


PC: Oh, my father. LRH: Good. PC: Guy named Jack Dickey.
PC: No, I thought of, that I ran into a picture last time that I couldn't break through a barrier. And I'm – I've as if I've failed to reveal what's behind that. LRH: All right.


LRH: Good. PC: The – um – my employees. LRH: Good.
PC: Couldn’t get cracking on it. LRH: Very good. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal?


PC: Business associates. LRH: Good. PC: Um – anybody outside Scientology circles.
All right. I've still got a reaction here. can you think of anything else you failed to reveal on this goal? There it is.


I'm not saying any Scientologists, but anybody outside I haven't revealed it to. TV DEMO: 18  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. Very good.
PC: No, that was um – to do with what I said to you before. Um – when I had to check Jenny's goal . . . LRH: Hm-hm.


Okay. Now, is there anyone that you have failed to reveal this goal to? There's still a little slowdown there.
PC: ...I had to pull some withholds off on her and she had some on me. LRH: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 30  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: One of them was jammed up on a withhold of the sort of stuff that I had to give her and I felt a slight sense of perhaps haring to pull my punches with her, just in case I restimulated – restimulated her with that type of withhold.


PC: I thought of my children, particularly then. LRH: All right. Very good.
LRH: All right. Okay. PC: Second dynamic sort of stuff.


Let's just hit this the easy way. What's the first time you failed to reveal this to anybody? Can you spot that?
LRH: Okay. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There might have been a tiny slowdown there, I'll ask it again.


There it is. PC: Well, it'd be the uh . . . LRH: There it is.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed . . . on the goal to go to war is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right.


PC: Just after Mary Sue found it. The next time I went home to see – the next time I went home I failed to reveal it to my wife then. LRH: All right.
That's clean. Okay. PC: Hm-hm.


Very good. All right. On this goal is there anyone you have failed to reveal it to?
LRH: On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have been careful of? All right. That's okay.


I've got no reaction on that now. Good. All right.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. To go to war.


To leave my wife. Slows – stops the needle. To leave my wife.
To go to war. To go to war. To go to war.


Stops the needle. To leave my wife. All right.
How much listing would you say five sessions had amounted to? How long are these sessions? PC: Um – about two – two to two and a half, except one at one and three quarters.


Let me try this goal, half of it. To leave. To leave.
LRH: Yeah, all right. PC: We have it – have it up at seven a lot of the time. LRH: All right.


To leave. All right, that isn't reacting. It reacted just once.
And how much listing do you think had taken place there? PC: I don't know how many items. I should say there's probably about – at a rough guess about four hundred on each.


To leave my wife. To leave my wife. It reacted that time.
LRH: All right. Okay. Thank you.


To leave my wife. Reacts on to and leave and . . . To leave my wife.
PC: Maybe more, maybe less. I don't know. LRH: All right.


To leave my wife. To leave my wife. It's not reacting, uh – occasionally, occasionally get a reaction on this thing.
Very good. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Now, on listing the goal to go to war, has anything been invalidated?


How much have you listed this now? PC: Well, this is several pages of the who would want to, and some on oppose. LRH: Any TA action?
On listing the goal to go to war, has anything been suppressed? Okay. You thought of something late. you care to say anything about it?


PC: Yes, quite a lot. Getting quite a lot of TA action on that. LRH: I'm going to say it a few more times here.
PC: Well, there's one set of terminals that I get that I call my gracious lady. And they get joked about rather a bit. I suppose you could say they get invalidated, but it's out of session.


To leave my wife. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.
Not in session. TV DEMO: 31  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right. PC: And I invalidate the nice side of this.


To leave my wife. It's not now reacting. Lot of TA action.
There's an opposition side that I also feel really friendly and affable and I don't approve of myself being friendly and affable, see, so I invalidate that side of the listing. LRH: Okay. All right.


What do you feel about listing it? How do you feel when you list? PC: Well, I've one stage I went through quite a dopiness, felt as if I had flu, and so on.
On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have suppressed? All right. That is clean.


Then I came through that. LRH: Yes. PC: And that was fine.
On the goal – on listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have suppressed? Halt. I'm sorry I gave that to you wrong the first time, but on listing it, there is something that has been suppressed.


It's when we started listing the other side that uh – the opp – the opposition to the goal. LRH: Um-mm. PC: And that felt all right.
What is it? PC: Grief LRH: All right. All right.


I've never had any – well some somatics did turn on – um – legs, and so on. LRH: You did – have not had any? PC: I did have some somatics, in the legs . . .
Okay. Good enough. I'll check it again.


TV DEMO: 19  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. Did they get worse or better? PC: Well, we went through them, and they went out.
PC: Mm-mm. LRH: On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have suppressed? Okay.


LRH: All right. Let me say this goal again. I'D leave my wife.
That is clean. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have invalidated? All right.


All right. Who or what would not want to leave my wife? Who or what would want to leave my wife?
That is clean. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have invalidated? I got a reaction here.


You think that is amusing to read the goal that way, don't you? PC: Yes. LRH: That's the only charge I got on it too.
A little bit latent, but I had better get it. PC: I was thinking about the grief again. I always suppress grief.


All right, all right. Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife? Thank you. who or what would want – would not want the goal to leave my wife?
LRH: All right. You invalidated the grief? Is that it?


All right, Who or what would oppose the goal to leave my wife? Thank you. Who or what would not oppose the goal to leave my wife?
PC: Yes. LRH: ... what you're telling me? PC: I suppose so.


All right, I'll say it one more time. who or what would not oppose the goal to leave my wife? Thank you. Interesting.
LRH: All right. Let me check it again. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have invalidated?


I don't get any – any needle reaction on the lists lines... PC: Mm. LRH: . . . beyond your trying to suppress laughter.
Yes ma'am. PC: I was thinking I always invalidate grief in myself. I don't approve of being griefy.


Now, we're going to look into this just a little bit more here just for a second, and then we're going to let you off the hook. Okay? PC: All right.
LRH: All right. How about this listing? PC: Well, I got griefy one day doing listing and I invalidated it.


LRH: Goal, goal, goal. All right, let me get in the middle rudiments. In this session is there anything you have suppressed?
LRH: All right. Very good. All right.


Invalidated? Failed to reveal? Something there?
We'll check it out. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have invalidated? All right.


Anything you failed to reveal? PC: Failed to reveal that I felt you might have said a wife instead of my wife when you were reading the line. LRH: All right.
That's clean. Thank you. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal?


PC: You might want to read a wife instead of my wife. LRH: Thank you. Thank you.
All right. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have been careful of? All right.


In this session is there anything you have been careful of? Thank you, that doesn't read. All right.
That's clean. PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 32  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: I'm going to repeat one of these middle ruds here.


Who or what would oppose the goal to leave my wife? Who or what would not oppose the goal to leave my wife? Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife?
On listing the goal to go to war is there anything you have failed to reveal? That needle just tends to stagger just a little bit on that. PC: Well, I got a picture of this great – this meteorite-size piece of lump of mest that I saw the other night and I didn't find out the whole story about it.


Who or what would not want the goal to leave my wife? Okay. Goal, goal, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals.
LRH: All right. All right. So, here we go.


Now what are you thinking of? PC: I was thinking of Dick sitting down here because he's checked this goal so many times. That's what I was thinking of then.
On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right. That's clean I think, I think.


LRH: All right. Is this an invalidation? Yeah?
PC: Can't think of anything else I've failed to reveal, except I've failed to reveal the whole of my bank to myself yet. LRH: Oh, all right. I'm going to check this again.


TV DEMO: 20  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: What, for Dick? LRH: Yeah. PC: No, I didn't look on it as an invalidation.
On listing the goal to go to war is there anything you have failed to reveal? That's clean. Thank you.


I thought he'd be rather interested to see this. LRH: All right. Goals, goals, goals.
Sorry to give you one as thin as that but uh . . . PC: That's all right. LRH: All right.


All right, thank you very much. As far as we're concerned that goal is deader than a flounder, and so are all of its lines. Okay?
All right. Here we go. To go to war.


PC: All right. LRH: Right. All right.
To go to war. To go to war. To go to war.


Here we are and we're going into the end ruds. Okay? PC: Fine.
All right. To go to war. All right.


LRH: All right. In this session have you told me any half-truth? Untruth?
That goal must be either just about listed out or something. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Something.


Said something only to impress me? Or tried to damage anyone? What's the damage?
It isn't reading now. PC: Was it reading before? LRH: Well, it bangs once in a while when I use it in the middle of a comm text or something like that.


PC: Just thought of Dick. I didn't try to damage him, but might have done with what I said. LRH: All right.
But if it's been listed that far, why it wouldn't necessarily be alive. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.


Thank you. In this session have you tried to damage anyone? Thank you.
Now, I'm going to check the other goal . . . PC: Hm-hm. LRH: ... the old one.


That is clear. In this session have you deliberately tried to influence the E-Meter? I got a slowdown there.
PC: Hm. LRH: All right. To be an antisocial singer.


PC: Oh, I just realized my hands are sort of tightened up and are hot on the cans. LRH: All right. In this session have you deliberately tried to influence the E-Meter?
Okay. That read. To be an antisocial singer.


All right. Thank you, that is clean. In this session have you failed to answer any question or command?
That read. PC: It would. LRH: All right.


Thank you, that is clean. In this session have you failed to reveal anything? I've got a reaction on that.
To be an antisocial singer. That didn't read. To be an antisocial singer.


Is that because I used a different rudiment? PC: No, well, I realized it was different, and I just thought that it didn't worry me. It seemed real.
Okay. To be an antisocial singer. All right.


LRH: There's something right there. Bingbing, bing-bing, bing-bing, bing-bing. What are you thinking about there?
That is not getting a reaction now. TV DEMO: 33  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.


PC: Uh – well – um this should – you found this goal isn't in. It isn't the goal, and so you found it isn't the goal. Um – well, I feel it – I feel in one way it should have answered something, and in another way, well, it shouldn't.
Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have suppressed? That's clean. Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have invalidated?


I mean nothing is – oh, I don't know, I was a bit confused about that. But that's . . . LRH: Do you want me to say – to tell you more?
That is clean. Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial sinner – singer, that you – I beg your pardon. PC: I´d be too pleased.


Ill check this rudiment first. PC: Fair enough. TV DEMO: 21  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right.
LRH: All right. Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have failed to reveal? Doesn't react.


In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? I got a rest . . . PC: Yes it's a – I've failed to reveal the fact that I'm not surprised that it's no longer alive.
PC: Um. LRH: Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have been careful of? Now, I got a tiny slowdown there.


And um – there's something that keeps hitting me here. Well, I'll leave it at that, that I – I'm not surprised. I found that I'm not surprised that it's not reacting anymore.
It's hardly detectable. PC: Well, it's this slight little wince about it again you know, huhh. LRH: All right.


LRH: Very good. I'll repeat the question. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?
PC: I withdraw from it slightly. LRH: Very good. I'll check that again.


All right. There's the tiniest ghost of a slowdown. You might care – it's – most of it's gone, but there might be a little more ghost or something, little something PC: I'm rather pleased it's gone.
Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have been careful of? All right. I'm getting a slowdown instead, as an instant read on it. you got another one?


I feel I'll get my teeth into something else better. LRH: All right. Thataboy.
PC: There was something I thought of. When I was in communication with you on the telex . . . LRH: Hm-hm.


All right. Thank you. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?
PC: ... a couple of times about this I was careful of what I said just in case you landed me with it again. LRH: If we learned what? PC: I wa – in case you landed me with it again.


All right, that's flat. Okay. Now, are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties?
I was careful of what I said. LRH: Oh, I see. PC: I told you the whole truth but I was careful.


PC: Sure. LRH: All right. I'm going to have to check that again.
LRH: All right. Very good. Okay.


Are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? All right. There's no reaction there.
All right. Let me check that last one. Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have been careful of?


Thank you. Now look around here and tell me if you can have anything. PC: Yes.
All right. That is clean. PC: Hm-hm.


LRH: All right. Something kicking you. Notice anything wrong with the room?
TV DEMO: 34  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right. Let's check the goal again. To be an antisocial singer.


PC: I notice the plug out there, but it doesn't seem to be anything wrong. LRH: All right. PC: A camera missing up there.
Okay. To be an antisocial singer. Okay.


LRH: All right. Now, tell me if you can have anything PC: Yes, the carpet. LRH: All right.
To be an antisocial singer. Okay. To be an antisocial singer.


Thank you. Look around here and tell me if you can have anything PC: Yes. LRH: I've still got a little bang now, there's a little bang here.
All right. It is not reading. PC: Um.


Tell me something. PC: The settee, the door knob, the window plate on the door. LRH: All right.
It doesn't feel like it. LRH: It makes you nervous though when I . . . PC: Oh, you're not kidding it does.


Thank you, that's better. All right. Look around here and tell me if you can have anything.
Terribly nervous! LRH: It's not reading. It's not in.


PC: Okay. TV DEMO: 22  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right, that's good enough. Squeeze the cans.
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. Now, either the goal to go to war has been listed out . . .


All right. That's what I thought. What was I running on you the last time?
PC: Hm-hm. LRH: ... and so forth . . . Eh, your next test on a goal to go to war, if it lists to a free needle fine, if it doesn't, well, that's it.


Reach or Feel? PC: Feel. LRH: All right.
All right. To go to war. To go to war.


Put the cans down. All right. Feel that table.
To go to war. This thing is really . . . PC: Hm-hm.


All right. Feel the arm of the chair there. Thank you.
LRH: I get nothing on it. That's all. All right honey, that's all I'm going to do, except the end rudiments.


Feel that side. Okay. Feel the cloth.
PC: Thank you. LRH: All right. Here we go.


Thank you. Feel your lapel. Thank you.
In this session have you told me any half-truth, untruth, said something only to impress me? PC: I said a few minutes ago that you landed me with it and I didn't mean to impress you, but it sounded rude again. LRH: All right.


Feel the top of your head. Thank you. Feel the cuffs of your coat.
Very good. Didn't read anyway. PC: All right.


Thank you. All right. Pick up the cans.
LRH: And in this session have you tried to damage anyone? PC: No. LRH: All right.


Squeeze the cans. That's much better, that's good enough. That was the last of it.
They're all clean. In this session have you deliberately tried to influence the E-Meter? PC: No.


All right. Have you made any part of your goals for this session? PC: Not certain if we sorted that goal out or not.
LRH: No. Good. In this session have you failed to answer any question or command I have given you?


LRH: All right. PC: I certainly feel quite a lot better than I did when I came in. LRH: Okay.
PC: No. TV DEMO: 35  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Now, there's a fall of some kind or another and I'm not sure on what so I'm going to repeat the auditing command. In this session have you failed to answer any question or command I have given you?


Any other gains you'd care to mention? PC: Yes, the – uh, looking at the various aspects that come up, and although you apparently had some difficulty with them, there's nothing really serious it seemed to me. I'm rather pleased about that, and it's helped to know you're not – you haven't got a lot of overts that are still buried, and so on.
All right. That's clean. PC: Mm.


LRH: Oh, all right. PC: That's quite a gain. LRH: All right.
LRH: That's clean. You had a sudden spurt of thinkingness in the middle of that. PC: Did I?


Good enough. Is there anything you'd care to say or ask before I end this session? PC: Well, you were going to tell me something, but. . .
LRH: Yeah. It's all right. PC: Okay.


LRH: All right I will, I'll tell you something. PC: Uh-huh. LRH: If that was your goal . . .
LRH: All right. In this session have you withheld anything from me? Thank you.


PC: Yes. LRH: ... it's perfectly safe to do something else. It won't get in your road.
That is clean. And are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? PC: Yes.


PC: Thank you. Yes. LRH: You understand?
LRH: All right. That's clean. And now, look around here and tell me if you can have anything PC: Hm-hm, the picture.


PC: Yes. TV DEMO: 23  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. You've either listed it to a null or something I don't want to say that that would be good policy, but where a goal is equivocal . . .
LRH: All right. Okay. That was clean.


PC: Um-mm. LRH: ... or what might or might not be, and where you did develop somatics and some flu on it, and so forth, the discussion of this goal has not shifted the tone arm. PC: I see.
All right. Have you made any part of your goals for this session? PC: Yes.


Yes. LRH: Clearing it up has not shifted the tone arm. PC: Yes.
Thank you. LRH: All right. Any gains you'd care to mention?


LRH: The lines that I've read that should be listed . . . PC: Um-mm. LRH: ... have not shifted the needle.
PC: Well, I do feel now totally happy about the earlier goal. And I'm not hiding anything from you about it at all and I feel relieved. LRH: All right.


PC: I see, yes. LRH: So obviously there is no disturbance because of it, and there's no invalidations or suppressions on it. So what would you think?
PC: Um. LRH: Okay. PC: And I wasn't sure whether you said the goal ought to be carried on being listed or not.


PC: It's dead. LRH: Uh... PC: Obviously cleaned up I would say.
LRH: All right. Anything else you'd care to say about this? Gains?


LRH: Well, there's obviously, there's obviously. And I always looked at this goal – that's so I won't have a withhold from you . . . PC: Mm.
PC: Um? Well, I wondered how I'd feel with these things here, what's its name, but they didn't bother me. LRH: All right.


LRH: ... as something that was awful close to PT. PC: Yes. LRH: It always made me nervous.
Very good. Okay. PC: I feel, you know, brighter and more cheerful.


PC: Mm. LRH: So I'm perfectly willing for you to find another goal. And what do you know?
LRH: All right. Oh, I'm not asking for applause. TV DEMO: 36  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: But I do.


This goal goes on the list, and you find it again, why fine. PC: All right. LRH: Okay?
LRH: All right. Now, is there anything you would care to say or ask before I end this session? PC: Yes.


PC: Yes. LRH: That answer the question? TV DEMO: 24  CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: Thank you very much.
I didn't get whether you said that that goal should go on, on to being listed on or not. LRH: Oh, yes. It has to go on the list.


LRH: Give you all the data? PC: Yes. LRH: All right.
Go ahead, that's all right. PC: I just wasn't sure about that. LRH: All right, 2.0 – line fourteen, sixteen – it's actually down to 2 here ma'am, back and forth.


That wasn't an evaluation, was it? PC: Not at all. LRH: All right.
You're a little above 2 right now. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.


You didn't think of that as an evaluation, did you? PC: No. LRH: No, that's fine.
Anything you care to ask or say before I end this session? PC: Just, thank you very much. LRH: All right.


All right. All right. Is it all right with you if I end this session?
Okay. Here it is: End of session. PC: Thank you.


PC: Yes. LRH: All right. Here it is.
LRH: All right. Session ended for you? PC: Yes.


End of session. PC: Thank you. LRH: All right.
Thank you. LRH: All right. Tell me I'm no longer auditing you.


Session ended for you? PC: Yes, thank you. LRH: All right.
PC: You're no longer auditing me. LRH: Good. Okay.


Tell me I am no longer auditing you. PC: You are no longer auditing me. LRH: Good enough.
PC: Thank you. LRH: Ten minute break.


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Revision as of 13:53, 26 December 2025

Series: Saint Hill Special Briefing Course (SHSBC)

Date: 13 June 1962

Speaker: L. Ron Hubbard

LRH: You thought it would happen and then uh . . . PC: I sort of thought, Oh, I hope it doesn't. LRH: All right.

Hope it doesn't! PC: Yes. LRH: Oh, that's rough.

We're not going to do anything very desperate here, honey. All we're going to do is check out your goal. But we're going to prepcheck.

Now, I don't know whether you've been prepchecked on this or not. PC: No. LRH: And I thought it might be a good opportunity for you to get a little subjective reality on this.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: We've got plenty of people whose goals I could check out. But I sort of wanted when you came down calling me – I actually wanted to check out your goal.

So, I'm going to shoot two factors with one session. PC: Thank you. LRH: All right.

This sort of thing won't bother you anyway. PC: No. LRH: All right.

Is it all right with you if I begin this session now? PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

Here it is. Start of session. PC: Okay.

TV DEMO: 2 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Has the session started for you? PC: Yes, thank you. LRH: All right.

Very good. What goals would you like to set for this session? PC: Well, to do whatever it is we are going to do, successfully.

LRH: To do . . . PC: Whatever we are going to do, successfully . . . LRH: . . .whatever we're going to do.

And what s the last . . . PC: Successfully. LRH: . . . successfully.

Oh, well that is a goal. All right. Very good.

Any other goal? PC: No. That will be fine.

LRH: All right. Is there any goal you would like to set for life and livingness? PC To use the knowledge and the gain that I get here, at London HASI.

LRH: All right. Any other? PC: No.

That will be fine. LRH: All right honey. You look a little bit nervous.

Do you feel nervous? PC: No, not nervous, just – just cornered. LRH: Do you feel you've been betrayed?

PC: Yes. I've been caught. LRH: Oh, too bad.

PC: Yes. LRH: Too bad. PC: Doesn't – this system doesn't worry me.

I was surprised. It's so separate here. LRH: Well, all right.

All right. Now, uh – look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes, it's fine.

LRH: All right. Look around again. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. What's your Havingness Process lately? PC: Look around here and find something you can agree with.

TV DEMO: 3 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right. Squeeze the cans. Thank you.

My goodness! Out the bottom. All right.

Here's the first command. Look around here and find something you can agree with. PC: That picture.

LRH: Thank you. Look around here and find something you can agree with. PC: Curtain.

LRH: Thank you. Look around here and find something you can agree with. PC: Couch.

LRH: Thank you. Look around here and find something you can agree with. PC: Green vase.

LRH: Good enough. Squeeze the cans. All right.

Squeeze them again. All right. Has this Havingness Process been suppressed?

PC: Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes “point out something” does and sometimes “tactile” does. LRH: All right.

Has this Havingness Process been suppressed, invalidated? Is there something about this Havingness Process you failed to reveal? Yes, what have you failed to reveal about this Havingness Process?

PC: Something I failed to reveal, but it wasn't the Havingness Process that I know of. It was the fact that I've seen that picture in several different people's houses and I thought of it before you started running it. LRH: All right.

All right, thank you. Now, is there something about this Havingness Process you failed to reveal? PC: Not that I know of.

Didn't get anything. LRH: Well, all right. I'll check it on the meter.

PC: All right. LRH: All right. Is there anything about this Havingness Process you have failed to reveal?

All right. That's clean. Thank you.

All right. Is there anything about this Havingness Process that you have been careful of? PC: Not that I know of LRH: All right.

We're going to run a different Havingness Process. Okay? PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Squeeze the cans. Boy!

You're just getting that much drop. TV DEMO: 4 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.

Put the cans down. All right. Here we go.

Feel that table. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you.

Feel that chair. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you.

Feel that sign. PC: Yes. LRH: Thank you.

Feel that ashtray. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you.

Feel that table. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you.

Pick up the cans. PC: Okay. LRH: All right.

Squeeze the cans. Squeeze them again. I think we've got a little broadening of it here.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Put them down. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Just feel those cans without picking them up. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Thank you. Feel that chair. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Oh, all right. How does it feel? PC: Feels slightly sticky and leatherish.

LRH: All right. Very good. Feel that cloth.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. Thank you.

Feel your skirt. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.

Thank you. Feel your shoulders. TV DEMO: 5 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. How do they feel? PC: Solid.

LRH: All right. Good enough. Feel that cloth.

PC: This one? LRH: Yeah. All right.

Pick up the cans. All right. Squeeze the cans.

Ah – that's good. Try it again. Squeeze the cans.

Yeah, that's your Havingness Process. Okay. Put them back down.

We'll do it a few more. All right. Feel the can cord.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Okay. Thank you.

Feel the arm of your chair. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Just that one.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Just that one there. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. How does that feel? PC: Smooth.

Solid. LRH: All right. Very good.

Feel the table under there. PC: Yeah. LRH: Okay.

Feel this paper. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

Thank you. Feel the back of the E-Meter. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Thank you. Feel that ashtray.

PC: Yes. LRH: Good. Good.

Feel your skirt. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Good.

Feel both arms of your chair. PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 6 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right.

Feel the tablecloth in front of you. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

Now feel the table under the tablecloth. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Thank you very much.

Pick up the cans. Okay, squeeze the cans. That's good.

Fine. Thank you. That was the last command.

PC: Okay. LRH: All right. I'll check this on the meter.

Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

Anything particular you're running into as you do that? PC: Just at that moment, I noticed that camera over there. LRH: That was a big surprise?

PC: No, it reminded me of a camera I once saw in my bedroom about three Christmases ago at the same time up in the corner of the room. It was a picture I saw and I got tummy upset for a whole day. LRH: So, all right.

Good enough. Okay. Let me check this on the meter now.

Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

You still get a flick on something here. PC: Oh, I noticed the – a metallic object of some sort up there. LRH: All right.

Thank you. Let me check it on the meter again. Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room.

That's clean. Thank you. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. It was actually clean before, but I took a latent read. Okay?

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: You feel all right about these cameras? PC: Yes.

LRH: Really? TV DEMO: 7 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Do you feel all right about these cameras?

PC: The only thing I can think of is that just – I just remember being a student down there and how they – how we all used to laugh at different occasions and I – I keep expecting to hear people laugh when I say something and I don't. LRH: Oh, really. Oh, all right.

All right. All right. We shoot them when they do that now.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. We'll let it go at that.

Okay? PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Do you feel – you feel – you su – you sure you feel all right about . . .?

PC: Yes. LRH: All right. I get a very wide fall here when I say to you, “you sure you feel all right?” But it's not a – it's not an instant read.

PC: It's not these cameras . . . LRH: Yeah. PC: . . .

I don't think. LRH: Well. Tell me what you think it might be.

PC: I think it's being watched. But it isn't them down there watching. LRH: All right.

PC: It's a sort of – there's a something watching It's – it's this thing, I don't like being watched over my shoulder. LRH: Oh. Okay.

You think there's something over your shoulder, turn around and look. PC: No, only me. LRH: All right.

Okay. Now, you feel all right about this? PC: Yes.

LRH: Yes, you do now. Thank you. All right.

Now, are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

Thank you. Let me check that. That was equivocal.

Are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? TV DEMO: 8 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

Thank you. It's got a latent read on it. But that's otherwise fine.

All right. Since the last time . . . PC: Yes.

LRH: ...you were audited at Saint Hill . . . PC: Yes. LRH: ... have you done anything that you are withholding?

PC: Heavens! Thousands of things. LRH: All right.

Happens to be clean on the meter. PC: Okay. LRH: All right.

Okay. Well let it go at that. All right?

PC: Yes. LRH: Okay. Do you have a present time problem?

PC: No. LRH: I got a reaction on that. PC: Well, the only thing that occurred to me was that I really didn't want to get stuck with my early goal again. rd much rather have the other one I've got.

LRH: Oh. I see. All right.

All right. All right. Very good.

Let me check this on the meter. Do you have a present time problem? PC: Nothing I can think of.

LRH: That is clean. Thank you. Thank you.

Very good. All right. Now, what we're going to do here now . . .

Your rudiments are in. That's fine. What we're going to do here now is we're going to do a very fast Prepcheck with the middle rudiments on the subject of goals and so forth.

All right, the first thing we're going to check – we're going to start in right now. You came down to 2.6. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: With all that, by the way. And the first thing here is your – just the subject – just the word – I'm going to just check the word. I'm going to see it – say it and see if we get a reaction.

Goal. Thank you. Fine.

PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 9 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Now, I'm going to check one other word. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Listing. All right. That's clean.

All right? PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Here we go.

The first question here is: On goals have you ever suggested anything PC: I think so, once. LRH: All right. PC: On a person at HASI, there was a prior read on a goal and I asked her, could her goal possibly be that?

LRH: All right. Okay. I'll check that on the meter now.

On goals have you ever suggested anything All right. That's clean. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Thank you. Now, on goals have you ever had anything suggested? PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. Doesn't read. What would you like?

PC: I just – what I told you earlier today, the thing that I said. LRH: Go ahead and say it. It's all right.

PC: Well, you suggested that my goal might be antisocial singer. LRH: All right. Very good.

Okay. Okay. Now, on – on goals . . .

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: ... have you ever suppressed anything? PC: Anger sometimes, when I was being run on that one.

LRH: All right. That's an equivocal read. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: But I'll check it now. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On goals have you ever suppressed anything?

I've got an action here that's just a little tiny bit late, but I'll have to take it into account. PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 10 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Can you think of anything else you suppressed on goals?

PC: Well, I thought – I was wondering whether I had suppressed anything else. I suppressed speaking to you sooner about it. LRH: All right.

All right. Thank you. I'll check that on the meter.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On goals have you ever suppressed anything Ah, that's clean. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right? PC: Hm-hm. LRH: You don't think it is?

There's an upswing here. There was an upswing I'll call it an equivocal read. PC: Well, the only feeling I get is that I always get suspicious if I sort of get a bit cagey about something, in myself LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And the thought of having to be run on that goal again, I sort of get a sort of “eek!” about it. LRH: All right. All right.

Okay. PC: However, but if I'm being run on the other one, I'm sort of going smoothly. But that one I think “ooah” not into that mess again.

LRH: All right. Okay. Here we go.

I'll check that again, just to be absolutely sure. On goals have you ever suppressed anything Ah, that's a sudden speeded rise. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Can you think of anything else you've suppressed on goals? PC: Well, I suppose I just suppress that feeling I get, at the thought of that other goal. LRH: Hm-hm.

All right. Good. PC: I got a lot of sort of pain with it when I was being run on it down here.

Not physical pain, mental pain. LRH: All right. Very good.

I'll check it on the meter again. On goals have you ever suppressed anything That is clean. PC: Hm-hm.

TV DEMO: 11 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Thank you very much. All right, we've got this one, and we've got this one, and we've got this one. Now, let's take the next one.

On goals is there anything you have suppressed? PC: I don't think so. I told you as far as I know.

LRH: Yes. I got a reaction on it too. why does that give a reaction? PC: Well, I suppressed the pain, and I suppressed the uncomfortable, and I suppressed the anger.

Oh, I know what I thought. I had it on the telex, have I ever suppressed anything and – and I think it's on my telex it says had – had anything been suppressed, and I was puzzled. LRH: Well, all right.

Okay. I'll check that on the meter now. On goals is there anything you have suppressed?

That is clean. Thank you. Thank you.

There's a tiny latent. I'm not going to bother with it. All right.

On goals is there anything you have invalidated? PC: Well, I invalidated you. LRH: All right.

Okay. Very good. PC: At the time of that goal.

LRH: All right. Excellent. I'll check that on the meter now.

On goals is there anything you have invalidated? Equivocal read. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: On goals is there anything you have invalidated? That is clean. Thank you.

All right. Now, on goals have you ever invalidated anyone else's? That's clean.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: You thought of something latently. PC: I thought of something else.

LRH: What did you think of? PC: Well, I thought of – um – I was given – I was told something about a person's goal that was found down here by one person and I invalidated that person's speed in doing it. LRH: The person's speed?

PC: In doing it, because I said that I reckoned that we could do it faster. LRH: All right. PC: And then you told me more about it today.

And I felt guilty about it. LRH: I'm not quite with you there. TV DEMO: 12 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Oh, well, it – it was um – the goal Mary Sue found – found recently.

LRH: Oh, yeah? PC: Somebody – somebody told me how long it took her and I said, “Oh goodness, I'm sure we could – we could do it faster than that. “And then you told me certain other information about it today and I felt very guilty of having thought that and said it. LRH: Oh, I see.

All right. Let me check that then. On goals is there anything you have invalidated?

I got a slowdown. Think of something else? PC: Well, only – only that other – um – the one of – the goal I said to you that I suggested to that person when the – when the goal came up as the whole thing it was – it was, I think, to seduce every man I want, from this particular person.

I said, “Oh good heavens, it won't – it won't be that. I'm sure it will be something else.” And when I checked it there was only a prior read when it came to the seduce part. And I actually invalidated it before it came up to me to check it.

LRH: Oh. All right. Very good.

All right. Now, I'll check it on the meter now. All right.

On goals is there anything you have invalidated? Equivocal read. I'll have to ask you again.

On goals is there anything you have invalidated? That's clean as a wolf's tooth. Thank you very much.

All right. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? It's clean.

Thank you. On goals is there anything you have been careful of? Ah ha!

Now, what have you been careful of? PC: Been careful of ? LRH: There it is.

PC: Of that feeling that I get. That sort of “eek!” feeling at the thought of that antisocial thing, singer thing. LRH: Yeah!

All right. All right. PC: I sort of have to catch myself on the big withdraw out.

LRH: Okay. All right. On goals is there anything you have been careful of?

All right. There's a latent you might want to tell me about. PC: I was thinking about that again actually.

I know – I know what I thought. I thought, Oh, this will save Jenny having to do this. LRH: Um?

PC: I said this – doing this will save Jenny having to do it. LRH: Oh, she could do it easily. All right.

Okay. Ill ask you again here. On goals is there anything you have been careful of?

And that is clean. Thank you very much. All TV DEMO: 13 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I right.

On goals have you told any half-truths? Thank you. That is clean.

On goals have you told any untruths? Thank you. That is clean.

On goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter? PC: Not consciously or deliberately that I know of. LRH: All right.

Well check that again. It was a little bit of a late read. Well, on goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter?

No. clean. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On goals have you tried not to influence an E-Meter?

Clean. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.

That appears to be okay. PC: Good. LRH: Now, we're going to take up the subject of listing.

We've got that straight and we didn't run into any real trouble there. We're getting your tone arm down here, ma'am. PC: Good.

I've been seven running that other goal. LRH: Yeah? PC: About six times a session.

LRH: Yeah? PC: It's true. It's on the end rudiments.

And he says it – d bring that session, and I go up to seven again. LRH: All right. Okay.

Now, we're going to start in on listing All right. On listing – on listing is there anything you have suggested? PC: I seem to remember in one session that I was giving Norman that he asked me a word and I told it to him.

He asked me a word for something. I couldn't swear to it totally and wholly. But, I seem to think there's something like that there.

LRH: All right. Very good. On goals is there anything you have suggested?

That's clean. It wasn't really there in the first time, it was a latent. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: All right. You don't think I'm cleaning off latent reads. I'm calling it – if it falls after a quarter of a second.

All right. On listing is there anything you have failed to suggest? That's clean.

Thank you. On listing is there anything you have suppressed? Thank you.

That is clean. On listing is there anything you have invalidated? Equivocal read.

On listing is there anything you have invalidated? TV DEMO: 14 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: I'm thinking of one session which one of the auditors was giving in London, that I was supervising in the staff training. And – um – an item was got and there was something wrong with it.

LRH: Hm-hm. PC: And I said to the auditor, no, that won't be it. We'll have to go on for that.

The – tha – that invalidated it at that stage. LRH: All right. I'm getting a fall on “on listing is there anything you have . . .” PC: I beg your pardon.

LRH: Yes. I don't know why. PC: Is there anything I'd what?

LRH: I don't know. I – I'm not trying to foul you up or anything like that, but the read is equivocal because on listing is there anything you have? You just thought of something, what's on . . .

PC: Well, this is the same thing. This is – this incident that this – this chappy came up with. But I don't quite know what you mean by an equivocal read .

LRH: Neither do I. PC: . . . an equivocal read. LRH: Oh, it means that it's not on the button PC: I see.

Hm-hm. LRH: It means it's just – I couldn't tell if it is clean or not clean. PC: I see.

LRH: See. There's a hunted read around it some place. PC: Oh.

Well, I've been puzzled what this equivocal read has been. LRH: Oh, all right. Okay.

Very good. All right. On listing is there anything you have invalidated?

That's clean. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.

On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal? Yes. Yes.

PC: Well, I get two things there. All the items on my list that I haven't sted – yet said. LRH: Yes.

PC: And the fact that I – the way I was holding my cans pressing against my legs, I wondered if there was any reaction there. I've got those two things at the same time. TV DEMO: 15 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right.

Now, did that answer the question? PC: Well, when you said was there – on listing was there anything I'd failed to reveal, I just thought of all the items that I yet hadn't revealed on lists. LRH: Attaboy.

All right. Thank you very much. All right.

On listing – I'll check it here . . . PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right. Thank you. That's clean.

All right. On listing is there anything you have been careful of? And that is clean.

Thank you. Now, on listing have you told any half-truths? And that is active.

PC: Something sort of shot by. LRH: Hm-hm. PC: I haven't sort of got it.

LRH: There it is. PC: It's a sort of something here. LRH: There it is.

PC: I can't quite see what it is. LRH: There it is. There it is.

PC: I can't think if I told any half-truths. LRH: There it is. PC: I don't get anything I'm conscious of something around, but I can't see what it is.

LRH: All right. I'll repeat the question. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Maybe it will occur to you. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On listing have you told any half-truths?

PC: Well, the only thing I can think of that came to the surface then, was that um – on doing Routine 3D Criss Cross lists down here on my preclear um – on looking back now for what we know now, the lists weren't complete although at the time, of course, I said they were. LRH: Hm-hm. All right.

TV DEMO: 16 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: So, it's a half-truth. LRH: Excellent. Okay.

Let me check that on the meter now. On listing have you told any half-truths? And that is clean.

All right. Here's the next one, on listing have you told any untruths? That is clean.

Thank you. On listing have you deliberately tried to influence an E-Meter? And I got a reaction.

PC: Well, as an auditor I was hoping th – tha – that one item would be the one it was for the pc but it wasn't. LRH: All right. PC: That's about the nearest I can get to it.

LRH: All right. Well, we'll see if that's it. PC: Mm.

LRH: On listing have you ever deliberately tried to influence an E-Meter? And that is clean. Thank you.

On listing have you ever tried not to influence an E-Meter? PC: No. LRH: Thank you.

All right. Very good, madam. I am going to ask you one more . . .

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: ... on goals. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: On goals have you ever tried to damage anyone? Thank you. That's clean.

On listing have you ever – on listing have you ever tried to damage someone? Thank you. That is clean.

On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command? Clang! Reaction.

There it is. There it is. PC: Well, it seems to be something to do with one of the sessions that Maryann gave me.

But I can't think of failing to answer a question or command there. She was running me on – when we were doing those sort of group mores . . . LRH: Yeah.

PC: ... thing But I don't remember failing to answer the question or command there. Unless I didn't run a – didn't answer a havingness command. LRH: There it is.

PC: Oh! There was one day I think um – when there was some confusion as whether she'd given me a havingness command or not or whether I'd answered two of them or one of them or three instead of two or one instead of three or something like that. TV DEMO: 17 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right.

Okay. Let me check it. On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command?

And that is clean. Thank you. Okay.

On listing have you ever failed to answer a question or command? And that is clean. Thank you.

All right. We are all set here. Now, I'm going to get my middle ruds in.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. In this session have you suppressed, invalidated?

And what have you invalidated in this session? PC: I invalidated you at the beginning. LRH: All right.

PC: But I didn't intend to. LRH: All right. PC: I said I hoped this wouldn't happen and it was very rude of me.

LRH: Okay. Thank you. All right.

In this session have you invalidated anything? That's clean. Thank you.

In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? And that is clean. In this session is there anything you have been careful of?

Thank you. And that is clean. All right.

Very good. All right. Now, just for a moment here I am going to do a little operation known as Fish and Fumble.

Okay? Because we've got an occasional tick wandering around here and I am just wondering what that is all about. And there it is right there.

What were you thinking of? There it is. PC: I was thinking of the camera.

LRH: All right. Thank you. Now think of the camera.

PC: It's not that one. LRH: Which one? PC: It's this one I saw in the – as a picture in this bedroom in the Christmas of either 1959 or 1960.

LRH: Oh, yeah? PC: It was just a picture up on the wall, not on the wall. It was a picture that I saw . . .

LRH: Uh-uh. PC: . . . you know, in my bank. It was pressed against the wall.

LRH: All right. Good enough. PC: Hm-hm.

And it reminded me of the thing on the Paramount thing – they twist the movie camera around and say the eyes and the ears of the world. But I often TV DEMO: 18 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I wondered whether it was a Fac One thing or something because I felt so sick for the rest of the day. LRH: All right.

All right. Why don't we just fumble around with this for a minute here. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Camera. Picture. PC: I don't like having my photograph taken.

LRH: All right. Something there – you thinking of something right there? What's that?

PC: Well, that's the feeling I get when somebody wants to take my photograph. LRH: Oh yeah, yeah. PC: Hm.

I have the same feeling LRH: All right. Well, you ever taken people's photographs? PC: Oh, a few times, not all that much.

LRH: Yeah. That's deader than a mackerel. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Have you ever hidden any photographs? Heh-heh-heh-heh, here we got it, here we got it. What about hiding photographs?

PC: Well, I don't know. I remember haring a f – a – a – a fascination when somebody told me that Eugene Goosens, a famous musician in Australia, brought pornographic literature in and he hid it, underneath his clothes and his bags and got thrown out of Australia for me – for it. And this sort of fascinated me.

LRH: Yes, yes, yes. We've got something here. Thank you.

All right. Did you yourself ever hide any photographs? There it is.

PC: I don't think I ever hid that one, that's a piect . . . LRH: Pang! Pang!

PC: ... that's a picture of me when I was – that's a picture of me when I was about one. LRH: Good. PC: I don't think I ever hid it.

LRH: All right. Well, did you ever hide any photographs? PC: I used to play with photographs.

Mother used to have tins full of them. I used to play and look – look them over and put them in and out of photograph albums and I don't think I ever hid any. I remember doing this at a very early age.

TV DEMO: 19 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Hm-hm. PC: I don't recall hiding any of them. But I get an odd feeling in the diaphragm.

LRH: All right, well . . . PC: I think it's this life. LRH: All right.

Well, let's fish around a little bit and see if you got anything earlier than that, about hiding photographs. That's it. We got our little ping-pang here just as nice as you ever saw.

PC: Hiding photographs? LRH: Yes, hiding photographs. PC: I wanted to hide photographs.

LRH: All right. PC: I couldn't stand them all over on the mantelpiece and I couldn't – I – I couldn't bear the family photographs on all the mantelpieces, and I would have liked to and I never did. Mother wouldn't put any of them away.

LRH: All right. All right. Now have you ever hidden any?

There it is. PC: I've hidden from having one taken. LRH: All right.

All right. All right. But have you yourself, ever hidden any photographs?

There it is. PC: I get a sort of odd concept of a – of some pictures in a pile . . . LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: ...you know. But I don't - I don't know anything more about it than that. This is a bit of a mess in the picture of – of these in a pile there.

LRH: What kind of pictures? PC: Well, black photographic plates. LRH: All right.

PC: Oh! I have a feeling its me photographs, yes, in my bank. LRH: Umm?

PC: In my bank. My bank has got all these photographs in – in long, long photographic plates. LRH: Yeah.

TV DEMO: 20 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: They're all compressed. They're hidden in the bank. LRH: Oh yeah?

PC: Yes. LRH: All right. PC: I've hidden photographs, of that sort!

LRH: All right. All right. Very good.

Very good. When was that? PC: Oh, what a question to ask.

Millions of times. LRH: Hm. All right.

Spot me just one. PC: Um? LRH: Just one. one time.

PC: Well, I hid that picture of the camera I suppose, in that – in the bedroom in 1959. I've blotted it out again. LRH: All right.

Thank you. Thank you. Is that all there was to it at that time?

No? PC: No. Except feeling sick, that was all there was to it.

LRH: Very good. And what might have appeared? PC: Oh, Fac One stuff LRH: All right.

Very good. And who didn't find out about it? PC: Well, there were about six people who did.

Nobody else did. Nobody at all except those six people who were there on that Christmas day that I went to visit these people. LRH: All right.

Well, who didn't find out about it? PC: Well, my mother didn't. You didn't.

I never told an auditor before. LRH: All right. PC: I just thought.

LRH: All right. Very good. Very good.

Now, let me check this question. What about hiding photographs? All right.

There is a speeded rise here on it now. Now, is there any early period in your life when you tucked one out of sight? There's something.

PC: I've trimmed one, chopped one. LRH: You did what? TV DEMO: 21 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Cut one you know, trimmed it.

Oh, wait a minute! What a – what a nutty thing, of course! If you like to look at it that way, I had some picture frames at home in which sometimes I used to – it was – there would be one photograph and when I got sick of that, I'd put another one on top of it, so the one underneath got hidden.

LRH: Oh, all right. All right. All right.

When was that? PC: Ah, gosh. That must have been about 1938, or a little earlier.

LRH: All right. Very good. And is there any more to that?

PC: There was this particular photograph of myself that I didn't like. LRH: Hm-hm. PC: And I think that was one I hid.

LRH: All right. Very good. And what might have appeared there?

PC: Oh, people saying, “Oh dear, what a lovely photograph.” LRH: All right. Very good. And who should have found out about it?

PC: The person who gave me the photograph. I think it was my Aunt May. LRH: All right.

Very good. Thank you. Let me check this question.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: What about hiding photographs? There's a tiny tick as we go by.

PC: Hm-hm. Well, I could never make out why I had this absolute extraordinary puzzlement over this – this man who'd brought this pornographic literature into Australia. And I remember Father talking to me about pornographic literature, but I've never even seen any.

LRH: All right. PC: And I could never make it out and this always puzzled me. LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: That's – that's – that's what`s came back to that time. LRH: All right. All right.

Let me check this. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: What about hiding photographs?

This is – this is looking cleanish. PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 22 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: But, let me ask you now – there's a couple of times . . .

All right. What about hiding photographs? I get a slowdown.

PC: Well, I've got the feeling that there must be still something there, because I'm quite puzzled on this and I feel that there is something around that's hidden, but I haven't a clue myself what it is. LRH: Well, is there any earlier incident? Is there any earlier incident on this?

Did you hide some of those photographs that were in the trunk? PC: I took some of them. I didn't hide them.

I told Mother I wanted some and some I didn't want and could I – I took them and put them in my own photograph album. Some of them are still there. LRH: All right.

All right. PC: Don't think they are particularly hidden as such. LRH: Good.

All right. Let me check this now. What about hiding photographs?

Man, there it is, in full bloom. There it is. There it is.

PC: Well, that's the picture of the um . . . LRH: There it is. PC: That's the picture of the machine room – our printing office in Australia . . .

LRH: Hm-hm. PC: ... where we do our printing. I didn't hide any photographs there that I know of.

LRH: All right. All right. There's something . . .

PC: Funny feeling in my head. LRH: There's something right there. You just thought of something PC: I got a picture of the machinery and this funny feeling in my head and I thought of machines.

LRH: Did you do anything to that machine? PC: Well, there's lots of machines. There are probably about fifteen.

I don't think I did anything to the machines. LRH: All right. Did you do anything to the photographs?

PC: There were a whole lot of rather outdated posters on the wall that had photographs in it that I would liked to have pulled off But, I just suddenly thought of some lithography – um – big lithography stones that we had, that had photographs on the inside. And I wasn't supposed to touch them and I turned them over and looked at TV DEMO: 23 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I them and I was told I mustn't – I must be very careful because they shouldn't be broken. LRH: Hm-hm.

All right. PC: And we used to do some color printing. LRH: All right.

Did you ever hide any of those? PC: There's lots of things with – to do with blocks and things. LRH: All right.

Did you ever hide any of those? PC: No. I played with them when I shouldn't.

LRH: All right. Pang! Pang!

What did you just think of? Pang! PC: I thought of a block, a printing block.

You know, the um – um – the ones that you do with acid. LRH: Well, all right. Let's see if we can pick up something earlier than this.

What about hiding photographs? PC: Well, the thing that came to mind very early when you were talking to me about this was – I was over in an auditing session in 1950 – 63, 54 and I ran into that thing with the photograph within the photograph within the photograph. LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And, I ran into that a bit and he asked – he talked about cameras . . . LRH: Hm-hm. PC: ... and um – and I thought of that when you – when you started – at the beginning of that – that passed through my mind.

But there was nothing about stealing photographs there. There might have been doing things to people with photographs. LRH: Hm-hm.

All right. PC: I'm sorry, hiding photographs. Hm-hm.

Hm-hm. LRH: Let me look this over. Let me look this over.

Let's look over this exact question now. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: What about hiding photographs?

All right. As far as I am concerned that's null. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: Now let's take up uh . . . Think around about something or other. PC: I don't know.

I thought the thing wasn't null. TV DEMO: 24 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Uh? PC: I thought it hadn't been null actually.

And I kept thinking about the photographs now, because I'm very intrigued to know what was making it react. LRH: All right. I get a stick now.

Well, you've taken the double stick off of it. I don't know how, but we've taken it off. But it'll doing something else with photographs that we're interested in here, I think.

Doing something else with photographs Have you done something else with photographs? All right. Or have you done something else with pictures?

Ah – pictures. PC: Well, I've blotted them out. LRH: Pictures.

Mental image pictures. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Clang!

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Clang! Mental image pictures.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Yeah. We got a reaction here.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: We got another reaction here. PC: It's sort of like my mental image pictures are all – are like great big – in patches I get them in, like photographic plates . . .

LRH: Yeah, yeah. PC: ... and they all get compressed up. And I see them occasionally like that.

Sometimes they're little ones, but sometimes they're great long ones and I can see halls and halls and halls of them. LRH: All right. Well, let me fumble around here, for a minute here.

What about mental image pictures? What about doing things to mental image pictures? There is our reaction.

Can you answer that question? What about doing things to mental image pictures? PC: Oh!

I can think of about three possibilities. Not-ising people's sort of mock-ups that they put up to – as ideas to – that they think are good and you sort of say uhh-huh. And um – sort of squeezing them up.

And I also thought when I first came into Scientology that um – a mental image picture was quite different from what it turned out to be. I thought they had to be as solid as this room. TV DEMO: 25 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And it took me about three years to discover, that at first of all they weren't. LRH: Oh, all right. PC: And um – I always wanted to paint.

And then I suddenly had a – I thought at the time – that period – that until my mental image pictures got better . . . LRH: Hm-hm. PC: ...I-I wouldn't be able to paint or draw.

LRH: All right. Okay. Now, have you ever done anything to a mental image picture?

Pang- pang There we are. There it is. Bang-bang PC: Well, that's a mental image picture of mine, of a whole big filing cabinet of what I call one junky piece of my bank that had all cobwebs over it . . .

LRH: All right. PC: ... and I cleaned it up. LRH: You cleaned this up?

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. When was that?

PC: That would have been September of 1959. LRH: All right. Thank you.

All right. Is that all there is to that? PC: I think I whitewashed it.

LRH: All right. PC: It was my reactive bank filing cabinets and I didn't like it very much. LRH: All right.

And who failed to find out about this? PC: Well, you did. Any other auditor except the auditor who audited me at the time.

LRH: All right. Did that auditor find out about it? PC: Yes.

As far as I know. I told her I whitewashed it. I sort of got the concept of painting the outside to make it look clean.

LRH: All right. Thank you. And uh . . .

PC: The inside wasn't clean though unfortunately . . . LRH: Oh, all right. All right.

PC: ... that still contained the junk. TV DEMO: 26 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right. Now, let's take a – take a look at this now, this question here.

What about doing things to mental image pictures? I got the double reaction here. Very nice. can you think of an earlier instance where you've done something to a mental image picture?

There, you're right on something there. PC: Well, that was an auditing session in 1953 when I had some mental image picture of a procession of monks going to throw bodies into a volcano and I never got it back again and I blotted it out I suppose. I've never seen it again.

LRH: All right. All right. Thank you.

Let me check this question now. What about doing things to mental image pictures? All right.

I got a slightly speeded rise there. Can you think of another thing you have done to mental image pictures? PC: Well, sometimes I have seen pictures and I didn't really like them very much, so I sort of said “Oh, goodness,” and put a screen up or put a bit of blackness up or something like that.

LRH: All right. Okay. Now, let me check this question.

What about doing things to mental image pictures? There's the double reaction. A tiny double reaction.

There's two reactions here. one is a wide one and this is a tiny one. We're getting them both on this subject. There it is right there.

PC: I was thinking of mental images. LRH: It's what? PC: I was thinking of mental images and images.

LRH: All right. Well, have you done something to them? PC: Images?

Not . . . LRH: Mental image pictures. PC: Well, the only other thing I can think of, other than the fact I was thinking about mental images or images, was that I've not-ised them.

LRH: All right. Very good. When's the first time you recall doing this?

There it is. PC: I think it's this 1953 thing. LRH: All right.

Very good. And uh . . . PC: I didn't know anything about it before that.

LRH: Well, is that all there is to that? PC: As far as I know. We never got the incident moving or anything.

LRH: All right. What is this? A failed incident?

TV DEMO: 27 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: There was a couple of failed ones with that auditor. Was the first auditor I ever had in 1953. LRH: All right.

Very good. And what didn't appear there? PC: Whether I had poked somebody's eyes out or got my own poked out.

LRH: All right. All right. And who didn't find out about this?

PC: Me and the auditor. LRH: All right. Very good.

Now this is just a little test question here. was there a missed withhold in that session? I don't find so particularly. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: You do think of one? PC: No, I think there was a missed withhold with him in another question – in another session. But I think that was got to.

LRH: Well, what was the missed withhold in the other session? PC: Well, he told me to go to the beginning of an incident. And – but that equated to me “cry”. so, for years I thought that every auditor who wanted to audit me, was going to get me to cry.

And until this was pulled off me, I always had that consideration. LRH: All right. Very good.

Very good. All right. Now, let me check this question again.

What about doing things to mental image pictures? It looks clean. All right.

What do you think about all this now? PC: It seems so innocent. LRH: It does seem innocent doesn't it?

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Your tone arm is down here to 2.25. Needle's a little floppier.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. We're gonna check out a goal.

Okay? PC: Hm-hm. LRH: I just took a random read off here, that kept banging You may have some more, but we're not terribly interested, I'm just trying to get – get the thing going Now, this goal that you had . . .

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: . . . was “to go to war.” TV DEMO: 28 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Correct?

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: To go to war. All right.

Now, very rapidly, we're going to get in middle ruds again. All right. In this session is there anything you have suppressed, invalidated?

And what's that? PC: I didn't think of invalidated, I thought of suppressed. I sort of was comm lagging a little bit.

LRH: You got an instant read on invalidated. PC: Um. LRH: What did you invalidate in this session?

There it is. PC: Well, I thought then, I hope it checks out all right. I'd hate my auditor to be – to be invalidated.

LRH: Oh, all right. Thank you very much. All right.

All right. I'm going to check the whole middle rud. In this session is there anything you have suppressed, invalidated, failed to reveal or been careful of?

Thank you very much. It's all clean. Now, on the goal to go to war, has anything been suppressed?

That's clean. On the goal to go to war, has anything been invalidated? That is clean.

On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There's a tiny slowdown there. Almost imperceptible.

PC: There's a withhold I've-have got from the auditor . . . LRH: Yes, what is it? PC: ... that she hasn't had a chance to get yet because I haven't had another session.

LRH: All right. PC: But I wondered, whether she'd be able to get me through it. LRH: Very good.

All right. Thank you. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right. That's apparently okay. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have been careful of?

All right. Got an odd reaction there. I couldn't tell whether that was a read or not a read.

What's this that's just happened here? PC: I was wondering whether it was reacting and I thought of that goal you found on me and wondered why you weren't checking it too. LRH: Oh, all right.

All right. On the goal to go to war is there anything you have been careful of? All right.

That is clean. All right. TV DEMO: 29 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I Now, we're going to say the goal a few times.

To go to war. Thank you. To go to war.

It read the first time. PC: Mm-mm. LRH: To go to war.

To go to war. To go to war. All right.

How much listing has been done on this goal? PC: About five sessions. LRH: Five sessions worth of listing?

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. How do you feel after five sessions worth of listing?

PC: Oh, tremendously much better. LRH: All right. PC: It's made an enormous difference.

LRH: All right. Let me check it again. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: On the goal to go to war, is there anything that has been suppressed? All right. On the goal to go to war, is there anything that has been invalidated?

All right. That's okay. On the goal to go to war is there anything you have been ca – failed to reveal?

All right. You got reaction on that. Probably my question – fault.

PC: No, I thought of, that I ran into a picture last time that I couldn't break through a barrier. And I'm – I've as if I've failed to reveal what's behind that. LRH: All right.

PC: Couldn’t get cracking on it. LRH: Very good. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right. I've still got a reaction here. can you think of anything else you failed to reveal on this goal? There it is.

PC: No, that was um – to do with what I said to you before. Um – when I had to check Jenny's goal . . . LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: ...I had to pull some withholds off on her and she had some on me. LRH: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 30 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: One of them was jammed up on a withhold of the sort of stuff that I had to give her and I felt a slight sense of perhaps haring to pull my punches with her, just in case I restimulated – restimulated her with that type of withhold.

LRH: All right. Okay. PC: Second dynamic sort of stuff.

LRH: Okay. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There might have been a tiny slowdown there, I'll ask it again.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed . . . on the goal to go to war is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right.

That's clean. Okay. PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have been careful of? All right. That's okay.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. To go to war.

To go to war. To go to war. To go to war.

How much listing would you say five sessions had amounted to? How long are these sessions? PC: Um – about two – two to two and a half, except one at one and three quarters.

LRH: Yeah, all right. PC: We have it – have it up at seven a lot of the time. LRH: All right.

And how much listing do you think had taken place there? PC: I don't know how many items. I should say there's probably about – at a rough guess about four hundred on each.

LRH: All right. Okay. Thank you.

PC: Maybe more, maybe less. I don't know. LRH: All right.

Very good. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Now, on listing the goal to go to war, has anything been invalidated?

On listing the goal to go to war, has anything been suppressed? Okay. You thought of something late. you care to say anything about it?

PC: Well, there's one set of terminals that I get that I call my gracious lady. And they get joked about rather a bit. I suppose you could say they get invalidated, but it's out of session.

Not in session. TV DEMO: 31 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right. PC: And I invalidate the nice side of this.

There's an opposition side that I also feel really friendly and affable and I don't approve of myself being friendly and affable, see, so I invalidate that side of the listing. LRH: Okay. All right.

On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have suppressed? All right. That is clean.

On the goal – on listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have suppressed? Halt. I'm sorry I gave that to you wrong the first time, but on listing it, there is something that has been suppressed.

What is it? PC: Grief LRH: All right. All right.

Okay. Good enough. I'll check it again.

PC: Mm-mm. LRH: On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have suppressed? Okay.

That is clean. On the goal to go to war, is there anything you have invalidated? All right.

That is clean. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have invalidated? I got a reaction here.

A little bit latent, but I had better get it. PC: I was thinking about the grief again. I always suppress grief.

LRH: All right. You invalidated the grief? Is that it?

PC: Yes. LRH: ... what you're telling me? PC: I suppose so.

LRH: All right. Let me check it again. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have invalidated?

Yes ma'am. PC: I was thinking I always invalidate grief in myself. I don't approve of being griefy.

LRH: All right. How about this listing? PC: Well, I got griefy one day doing listing and I invalidated it.

LRH: All right. Very good. All right.

We'll check it out. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have invalidated? All right.

That's clean. Thank you. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right. On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have been careful of? All right.

That's clean. PC: Hm-hm. TV DEMO: 32 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: I'm going to repeat one of these middle ruds here.

On listing the goal to go to war is there anything you have failed to reveal? That needle just tends to stagger just a little bit on that. PC: Well, I got a picture of this great – this meteorite-size piece of lump of mest that I saw the other night and I didn't find out the whole story about it.

LRH: All right. All right. So, here we go.

On listing the goal to go to war, is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right. That's clean I think, I think.

PC: Can't think of anything else I've failed to reveal, except I've failed to reveal the whole of my bank to myself yet. LRH: Oh, all right. I'm going to check this again.

On listing the goal to go to war is there anything you have failed to reveal? That's clean. Thank you.

Sorry to give you one as thin as that but uh . . . PC: That's all right. LRH: All right.

All right. Here we go. To go to war.

To go to war. To go to war. To go to war.

All right. To go to war. All right.

That goal must be either just about listed out or something. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: Something.

It isn't reading now. PC: Was it reading before? LRH: Well, it bangs once in a while when I use it in the middle of a comm text or something like that.

But if it's been listed that far, why it wouldn't necessarily be alive. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.

Now, I'm going to check the other goal . . . PC: Hm-hm. LRH: ... the old one.

PC: Hm. LRH: All right. To be an antisocial singer.

Okay. That read. To be an antisocial singer.

That read. PC: It would. LRH: All right.

To be an antisocial singer. That didn't read. To be an antisocial singer.

Okay. To be an antisocial singer. All right.

That is not getting a reaction now. TV DEMO: 33 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.

Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have suppressed? That's clean. Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have invalidated?

That is clean. Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial sinner – singer, that you – I beg your pardon. PC: I´d be too pleased.

LRH: All right. Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have failed to reveal? Doesn't react.

PC: Um. LRH: Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have been careful of? Now, I got a tiny slowdown there.

It's hardly detectable. PC: Well, it's this slight little wince about it again you know, huhh. LRH: All right.

PC: I withdraw from it slightly. LRH: Very good. I'll check that again.

Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have been careful of? All right. I'm getting a slowdown instead, as an instant read on it. you got another one?

PC: There was something I thought of. When I was in communication with you on the telex . . . LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: ... a couple of times about this I was careful of what I said just in case you landed me with it again. LRH: If we learned what? PC: I wa – in case you landed me with it again.

I was careful of what I said. LRH: Oh, I see. PC: I told you the whole truth but I was careful.

LRH: All right. Very good. Okay.

All right. Let me check that last one. Is there anything about the goal, to be an antisocial singer, that you have been careful of?

All right. That is clean. PC: Hm-hm.

TV DEMO: 34 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: All right. Let's check the goal again. To be an antisocial singer.

Okay. To be an antisocial singer. Okay.

To be an antisocial singer. Okay. To be an antisocial singer.

All right. It is not reading. PC: Um.

It doesn't feel like it. LRH: It makes you nervous though when I . . . PC: Oh, you're not kidding it does.

Terribly nervous! LRH: It's not reading. It's not in.

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right. Now, either the goal to go to war has been listed out . . .

PC: Hm-hm. LRH: ... and so forth . . . Eh, your next test on a goal to go to war, if it lists to a free needle fine, if it doesn't, well, that's it.

All right. To go to war. To go to war.

To go to war. This thing is really . . . PC: Hm-hm.

LRH: I get nothing on it. That's all. All right honey, that's all I'm going to do, except the end rudiments.

PC: Thank you. LRH: All right. Here we go.

In this session have you told me any half-truth, untruth, said something only to impress me? PC: I said a few minutes ago that you landed me with it and I didn't mean to impress you, but it sounded rude again. LRH: All right.

Very good. Didn't read anyway. PC: All right.

LRH: And in this session have you tried to damage anyone? PC: No. LRH: All right.

They're all clean. In this session have you deliberately tried to influence the E-Meter? PC: No.

LRH: No. Good. In this session have you failed to answer any question or command I have given you?

PC: No. TV DEMO: 35 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I LRH: Now, there's a fall of some kind or another and I'm not sure on what so I'm going to repeat the auditing command. In this session have you failed to answer any question or command I have given you?

All right. That's clean. PC: Mm.

LRH: That's clean. You had a sudden spurt of thinkingness in the middle of that. PC: Did I?

LRH: Yeah. It's all right. PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. In this session have you withheld anything from me? Thank you.

That is clean. And are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. That's clean. And now, look around here and tell me if you can have anything PC: Hm-hm, the picture.

LRH: All right. Okay. That was clean.

All right. Have you made any part of your goals for this session? PC: Yes.

Thank you. LRH: All right. Any gains you'd care to mention?

PC: Well, I do feel now totally happy about the earlier goal. And I'm not hiding anything from you about it at all and I feel relieved. LRH: All right.

PC: Um. LRH: Okay. PC: And I wasn't sure whether you said the goal ought to be carried on being listed or not.

LRH: All right. Anything else you'd care to say about this? Gains?

PC: Um? Well, I wondered how I'd feel with these things here, what's its name, but they didn't bother me. LRH: All right.

Very good. Okay. PC: I feel, you know, brighter and more cheerful.

LRH: All right. Oh, I'm not asking for applause. TV DEMO: 36 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART I PC: But I do.

LRH: All right. Now, is there anything you would care to say or ask before I end this session? PC: Yes.

I didn't get whether you said that that goal should go on, on to being listed on or not. LRH: Oh, yes. It has to go on the list.

Go ahead, that's all right. PC: I just wasn't sure about that. LRH: All right, 2.0 – line fourteen, sixteen – it's actually down to 2 here ma'am, back and forth.

You're a little above 2 right now. PC: Hm-hm. LRH: All right.

Anything you care to ask or say before I end this session? PC: Just, thank you very much. LRH: All right.

Okay. Here it is: End of session. PC: Thank you.

LRH: All right. Session ended for you? PC: Yes.

Thank you. LRH: All right. Tell me I'm no longer auditing you.

PC: You're no longer auditing me. LRH: Good. Okay.

PC: Thank you. LRH: Ten minute break.

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