TV Demo; Checking Out a Goal, Part II (SHSBC 620613)

Series: Saint Hill Special Briefing Course (SHSBC)

Date: 13 June 1962

Speaker: L. Ron Hubbard

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LRH: Is it all right to audit in this room? PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

Now, look around here. PC: Okay. LRH: All right.

All right, and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

I get a little disturbance on that. What is it? PC: Well, I wanted to get through the rudiment and didn't want to mess around with it.

I thought you were going to say then no, it's not – it's not in. I was rather surprised when you gave me the question, “Have a look around here.” LRH: All right. PC: I had looked around, but I hadn't actually moved my head.

I had a quick twist of my eyes. LRH: Yes, yes, yes. All right.

All right. Squeeze the cans. All right.

Your havingness is all right. All right. I'll check that one more time.

Look around here and tell me if it is all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: I got a reaction on that.

That's it. PC: Camera, a camera, that camera isn't working properly and it should be, and I wondered just before you asked. And I thought on that one and I'd seen it switched to the other camera so, that was all right.

Well, I think it was a little disturbing that the camera wasn't working properly. TV DEMO: 2 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right, thank you. All right.

Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: There's still a reaction.

PC: It's warm. LRH: Warm. Okay, thank you.

Look around here and tell me if it's all right to audit in this room. PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

That was clean, as far as I'm concerned. All right. Now, are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties?

PC: Yes. LRH: I got a reaction there. PC: Well, I just thought it might be a bit embarrassing, as the goal we're going to look at is a domestic second dynamic goal and I just thought it might be a bit difficult with the people downstairs.

First time I thought of that. But uh . . . LRH: Okay.

PC: It's all right. LRH: All right. Okay.

Let me check it out on the meter here. Are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. I haven't got no reaction there. That's clean though.

Now, since the last time I audited you . . . PC: Yes. LRH: . . . have you done anything you are withholding?

PC: No. LRH: I've got a clank here. There we are.

PC: Uh – sexual relationships since last time, I suppose, and I was withholding it. I've had sexual relationships since last time. LRH: Yeah.

Yeah. That's quite all right. Okay.

All right. Let me check it out on the meter. Since the last time I audited you have you done anything you are withholding All TV DEMO: 3 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II right, that's . . .

I'm not quite sure of this read. Let me ask it again. Since the last time I audited you have you done anything that you are withholding I've got a reaction.

PC: Photography. LRH: All right. PC: rue got some prints back today, some film and know you are interested, and I didn't know whether they were really good enough to show you.

So I sort of hadn't said anything about those. I sort of thought them – thought about them. LRH: Okay.

All right. Since the last time I audited you have you done anything you are withholding? Got a reaction.

Something else, it's not the same. There it is. There it is.

There it is right there. PC: Well it seems to do with students leaving course, am . . . LRH: Anything else on that?

PC: Well, I suppose I've tried to explain the – um – explain the – um – policy on students leaving course, and – um – not too sure whether I've explained it completely. LRH: Hm. PC: There's a doubt there, so of course I've withheld something LRH: All right.

Let me check that on the meter now. Since the last time I audited you have you done anything you are withholding It reacts. PC: Yes this is, yes, I've been beaten.

I – before I came up here, I knew I was coming up, I went to the bathroom, washed my hands. LRH: Right. PC: As I have a theory.

It's been knocked out time and time again – that if you wash your hands when – before you come up, the read is different. It isn't, you see, I'm still reading 2.0. LRH: All right.

Okay. Very good. Let me check this out on the meter now.

Since the last time I audited you have you done anything that you are withholding It reacts. It's a different reaction. PC: Um-mm.

Didn't know I was such a withholder. Um. LRH: There it is.

There it is. There it is. PC: Oh, this is to do – this is – oh, we're going back a bit.

This is to do with the bungalow I'm thinking of renting now. LRH: All right. All right.

TV DEMO: 4 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: In East Grinstead. LRH: Okay. All right.

Since the last time I audited you have you done anything that you are withholding All right, I don't get a reaction on that now. PC: Good. LRH: Okay?

All right. Do you have a present time problem? All right.

There's no reaction on that. Okay. Now, I would like to do a rapid Prepcheck . . .

PC: Hu-huh. LRH: ... on the middle rudiments if that's all right with you. PC: That's fine.

LRH: All right, and here is the first question: On goals have you ever suggested anything? I have to ask that again. PC: All right.

LRH: I'm going to do a little piece of fish and fumble here if that's all right with you. PC: Hu-huh. LRH: Because I've got a little tiny bounce which is interfering with a read or a checkout.

PC: Good. LRH: It's a sporadic bounce here. First thing I'm going to do is check the middle ruds Okay?

PC: All right. LRH: In this session is there anything you have suppressed? Yes, what?

PC: Um – well bringing up the subject of Jenny and myself. LRH: All right. Very good.

Let me check that on the meter. In this session is there anything you have suppressed? All right.

That seems to be clean. In this session is there anything you have invalidated? Got a reaction.

PC: Well, I felt it was an invalidation when j said about washing my hands and the cans and so on. LRH: All right. All right.

Okay. Thank you. In this session is there anything you have invalidated?

Got a reaction. PC: Yes, when – when you said the um – rudiment was clean, the withhold rudiment, I thought – glory, I thought, I must have done much more than that and I've got away with it lightly. So I invalidated the check to that extent.

TV DEMO: 5 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: Very good. Thank you. All right.

In this session is there anything you have invalidated? It's very equivocal here. Let me check it again.

In this session is there anything you have invalidated? I got a reaction. There it is.

There it is – right there. Right there. There.

There. There. PC: Well, I suppose the meter to some extent here on um – when you asked me whether I was willing to talk to you about difficulties, again I felt I got away with a rudiment – an answer very lightly.

LRH: Okay. All right. Thank you.

In this session is there anything you have invalidated? All right, it's an equivocal read. In this session is there anything you have invalidated?

All right. That is still reading. PC: Invalidated myself when I heard that you got a – a difficult needle to read.

I felt there must be something wrong with me that . . . LRH: Oh, all right. PC: ... it should be reading badly.

LRH: Okay. All right. In this session is there anything you have invalidated?

All right that is clean now. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? Yes.

What? PC: Names. LRH: All right.

Okay. I'll check it on the meter. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right. That is cleaner, let me see if it's totally clean. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right, that's clean. All right. In this session is there anything you have been careful of?

Equivocal read. PC: Uh-huh. LRH: I'll check it again.

In this session is there anything you have been careful of? It's not reading as an instant read. PC: Um.

LRH: I'm still getting a – a weird runaround here, so we're now going to do this little bit of fish and fumble. Okay? PC: Right.

LRH: As far as rudiments, middle ruds are concerned, that – that's clean, but let me see something else here. What are you thinking of right that minute? PC: What do I – I feel I hadn't, um – if you'd asked me if the meter had reacted on some of these rudiments, I would have told you that when you first told me I was coming up here tonight, I was quite all right.

But then sitting downstairs I gradually got a TV DEMO: 6 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II nervous feeling turned on, which is – was still present when I sat down in session. Now I don't know. LRH: All right.

Okay. Now, needle's gliding around here beautifully now. PC: Good.

LRH: But I'm still getting a little bit of odds and ends. Let's think over our present circumstances here. What did you just think of right there?

PC: Well, the situation as far as my wife and my other relationships are concerned. LRH: All right. Okay.

Now we're getting a bing, bing, as we go on this thing All right. What are you thinking of right there? PC: Well, that the goal we're going to check out has so much to do with all this, you see.

LRH: All right. All right. All right.

We've got an action here. PC: It's apprehension from me – in here. It's apprehension I think, on what this will dig up, and so on.

LRH: Uh-huh. Uh – there's a tiny little dirty needle sort of a bounce as you think about this particularity, and you say it's something about the goal. PC: Yes.

LRH: Um. All right. I'm going to try to free the goal reaction on this.

But I'm getting a failed to reveal type of action. Is there anything you failed to reveal about this? Is there anything you failed to reveal about this?

Yes. Yes. PC: About what?

LRH: Yeah, well, just about what I don't . . . PC: Ah, yes, right. Well, it's about Jenny and I.

LRH: All right. All right. Okay.

Bing, no, there we got that same reaction. There is the little dance, bing, bing, there it is. PC: This is – what is it – in the officer’s mess you never mention the lady's name – you see.

LRH: I see. I see. Is that what it is?

Is this something about the mention of this name? PC: Suppression of the name, and uh – uh – well, suppression of anything that might embarrass Jenny. LRH: Oh, I see.

AH right. All right. Good enough.

Now, I'm not going to go further with this . . . TV DEMO: 7 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: All right. LRH: ... because I have done a little something here and it's apparently definitely associated with the goal . . .

PC: Hm-mm. LRH: . . . something like this. So I'm not going to do anything further with it, unless I find it impossible to read through this thing PC: Okay.

LRH: Okay? PC: Uh-huh. LRH: All right.

Here's the first question. On goals have you ever suggested anything? Equivocal.

On goals have you ever suggested anything Probably null. On goals is there anything you have suggested? All right.

We get a reaction on goals. But uh . . . PC: This is to do with – what I was thinking of then . . .

LRH: Yeah, go ahead. PC: ... was my daughter's goal who – when she wants to start a career, and so on, I was sort of suggesting things to her then. LRH: Hm.

PC: That's what came up. LRH: All right. Good enough.

Good enough. All right. I'll check it again.

On goals is there anything you have suggested? No reading on that. All right.

On goals is there anything you had suggested? That reacts. Have you had something suggested to you on goals?

PC: Well, people have always suggested what I should do, but this does not – not as applicable to goals in Scientology – goals in – in life, people always had to suggest things to me. LRH: Good enough. On goals is there anything you've had suggested?

All right. That's clean. On goals is there anything you have suppressed?

Yes. PC: Well I think I've suppressed any doubts about – or tried to suppress anyway – doubts about this goal of mine being my goal or being the goal. I've sort of batted for the side on that.

LRH: All right. Very good. Let me check that now.

On goals is there anything you have suppressed? Reacts. Anything else?

TV DEMO: 8 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: Oh, this has to do with a student's goal that I checked out, and I wasn't too sure about it. And I think I suppressed my uncertainty on the – on the checkout. Something that proved all right, by the way, but to be honest I wasn't really sure.

LRH: Okay. All right. On goals is there anything you have suppressed?

All right. That is clean. Thank you.

On goals is there anything you have invalidated? All right, there's no read there. Thank you.

Now, on goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right, let me check that again. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal?

I got a reaction. PC: Well, what I think of is, more or less – yes, failed to reveal – was that at one time this goal was checked out by an auditor and was said to be clear. Thought it was clean, we'd finished it when we were running the old type processes on it, and we did start to list again for a new goal.

LRH: Oh, yeah. PC: And I don't know if I've ever really got this over to anybody. LRH: All right.

Okay. Thank you. All right.

On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? I've got a reaction there, a slowdown and then a knock. There.

There. Right there. PC: Oh, this is the – that's the uncertainty that I had when I – the first goals that I found when on the course here.

And I'd get them to read, and then you sort of doubt, and then you'd be wheeled down to Mary Sue or somebody to check them out and they would check out. And then I think I failed to reveal at the time my surprise. I wished to be very nonchalant about it and say, well of course, and so on.

LRH: Yes. PC: But I think I failed to reveal that I wasn't all that certain at the time. LRH: All right.

Thank you. Okay. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right, that's probably clean. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? It's very, very hard to tell whether or not this – this did that.

Let me check it one more time. On goals is there anything you have failed to reveal? That's clean.

Thank you. It was your deep breath that did it. Now, on goals is there anything you have been careful of?

I got a reaction. PC: Been very careful not to invalidate anybody's goal, or the method of finding it, or anything like that. LRH: Good.

Thank you. On goals is there anything you have been careful of? I'm going to check that one more time.

On goals is there anything you have been careful of? Can you think of another answer to that? TV DEMO: 9 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: Well, what I was thinking was that that wasn't – that was a good answer, and I think when I'd given you one, precious one, that I'd been careful and I'd been very good, and I thought well that shouldn't be reacting There should be something else there, and that's as far as I'd got then.

Um . . . LRH: Something right there. There.

There. PC: Well, this is being too careful, being too careful in checking out goals and probably taking too long over it and keeping – this is, this is it – keeping in goals on a list that you are suspicious of, but – but really if you knew your job, they would be out. Being too careful in assessing LRH: All right.

Very good. On goals is there anything you have been careful of? I've still got a reaction here.

There it is. PC: Well, that's all it was. I've always been careful to let everybody know what my goal was.

LRH: All right. All right. Okay.

All right, let me check it. On goals is there anything you have been careful of? All right.

This is apparently flat. Okay? PC: Thank you.

LRH: All right. Now, on goals have you ever told a half-truth? Yes.

PC: Oh dear, this is sad. Um . . . LRH: There it is.

Right there. PC: Oh yes, this is something Mary Sue asked me one day. Yes, I checked out a Goals Assessment one day, and I did it at sensitivity 16, which I thought was right.

Then I went down and Mary Sue said, “You checked this with a full-dial drop?” So I said, “Oh yes, “you see, and knowing I was lying, or half lying, lying as it was, but I – I d id this at the time and I couldn't qu – couldn't quite make out why because it would be quite all right to tell Mary Sue I'd done it at 16. But I – the way she put it, it was the right thing to do, the full-dial drop, but this, at that time, was news to me, do you see? I had to be right, so to that degree there was a half-truth there.

LRH: All right. Very good. On goals have you ever told a half-truth?

I've got to ask that again. On goals have you ever turned a – told a half-truth? Something's going on here.

On goals have you ever told a half-truth? Well frankly . . . PC: Uh-huh?

LRH: ... it's firing at half. PC: At half ? TV DEMO: 10 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: And it's not firing at half-truth.

So we're going to consider that null. Okay? PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Now, on goals have you ever told an untruth? There's no reaction there.

Okay? Now, on goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter? Oh there's something, something on that.

On goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter? I'll ask it again, it's latent. On goals have you ever influenced an E-Meter?

No, there's no reaction on that. Thank you. All right.

On goals have you ever tried to damage someone? Something there. PC: Well, my goal is to damage someone.

LRH: All right. All right. All right.

Let me check that again. On goals have you ever tried to damage someone? All right.

No read. All right. On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command?

It dances on that one. PC: Well, I thought of all the times when Mike was auditing me on the goal itself, and we sat out there for hours and he d id a good job of it, but we d didn’t have the rudiments we have now, but I think some of those questions and commands must have gone unanswered. LRH: All right.

Very good. On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command? All right, there's a reaction there on command.

There it is. PC: This was the session I've got that was given by Robin. I think it was that session that I sort of doped off for a while, and I'm not sure that I'd answered all the – I can't say that I answered the command then.

LRH: Hm-hm. All right. On goals have you ever failed to answer a question or command?

All right. That's clean. All right.

Now, I'm going to do the middle ruds for this session. PC: All right. LRH: Okay.

In this session is there anything you have suppressed? Invalidated? What have you invalidated in this session?

There it is. PC: Well, myself again. I've done it again, I´ve thought about this – your difficulty in reading the needle.

This isn't – is something I shouldn't have, and I'm not proud of it, and I'm invalidating myself on that. LRH: Okay. Very good.

Let me check this on the meter now. In this session have you – is there anything you have invalidated? Yes.

PC: Well, there is a tendency, I suppose, to try not to, as well – that was Mike when he was – Mike's auditing of me. TV DEMO: 11 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. PC: And also Robin, Robin of course.

LRH: All right. PC: Um-hm. LRH: All right.

Okay. I'll check that on the meter. In this session is there anything you have invalidated?

All right. Very equivocal. Let me ask it again.

In this session is there anything you have invalidated? I don't get a read on that. All right.

In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right, that's clean. In this session is there anything you have been careful of?

All right, that is clean. Thank you. Now, we're going to ask this goal.

Now, the goal, if I remember rightly, was “To leave my wife,” right? PC: That's right. LRH: Very good.

Now, let's just check it just on the face of it. All right. To leave my wife.

Okay. No reaction. To leave my wife.

Okay. To leave my wife. Okay.

To leave my wife. All right. There's the tiniest, almost imperceptible slowdown when we get into that, but otherwise no reaction.

So let's do the middle ruds on this. PC: Hm, good. LRH: All right.

On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have suppressed? Yes. There.

There. There. PC: Well, I´ve suppressed, um – suppressed carrying it out.

LRH: All right. Okay. Good enough.

On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have suppressed? All right, that's clean. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have invalidated?

All right. I'll ask that question again. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have invalidated?

There's a slowdown there. PC: Um – I've invalidated its correctness on the grounds that it's possibly – um – too present time-ish to be of any real value on that ground . Although I've also realized it can be quite a long-term – long-track goal, but that's what I have tended to do.

LRH: All right. Okay. Good.

On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have invalidated? All right, the read is quite latent. Well ask it again, however.

On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have invalidated? No. That's it.

On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There's a reaction. TV DEMO: 12 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: Failed to reveal I've almost done it.

LRH: All right. Very good. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right; that is clean. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have been careful of? Equivocal read, can you think of anything offhand?

PC: Well, I've been careful not to upset my wife anymore than I can possibly help. LRH: All right. Very good.

Very good. On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have been careful of? I got a reaction.

PC: Children. LRH: All right. Very good.

On this goal, to leave my wife, is there anything you have been careful of? That is clean. Thank you.

All right. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.

To leave my wife. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.

To leave my wife. All right. I'm going to check a line. who or what would oppose the goal to leave my wife?

Who or what would oppose the goal to leave my wife? Who or what would not oppose the goal to leave my wife? Okay.

Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife? I'll ask that again. Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife?

Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife? Is there anything you failed to reveal about listing this goal? PC: Only that the – um – it was done from a short list.

Found out it wasn't a short list really, I mean, I think it was two or three hundred goals. Um . . . LRH: There's something PC: Well, there I was thinking of when Mary Sue was checking it out, that a – there was one or two embarrassing goals at the time.

Since I've seen some others, it wasn't so, but I always remember this particular goal that Mary Sue read out and it rather shook me when Mary Sue read it to me, you see, with her perfect TR 0, or something. LRH: All right. Okay.

Well, let me read that on the meter. All right. On listing this goal is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right, that's clean enough. PC: Um-hm. LRH: All right.

Now, on writing the items down for this goal, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There's a little bit of a something here. PC: I wasn't quite sure, because I couldn't recall writing any items down . . .

LRH: All right. TV DEMO: 13 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: ... for this goal. LRH: All right.

Thank you. Then I'll change the question. PC: Um-hm.

LRH: On listing a line for this goal, is there anything you have failed to reveal? There's nothing there. All right.

On the original terminals list for this goal, is there anything you have failed to reveal? PC: Well, that – well, that terminals . . . Now, I can recall your – you listed these terminals for me in the – in your office downstairs.

LRH: Um-mm. PC: That was a short list. LRH: Um-hm.

PC: Um – but – um – don't think there was anything else I failed to reveal there. LRH: All right. Very good, very good.

All right. On listing on this goal is there anything you have failed to reveal? Doesn't read.

Okay. All right. Now, let's take up a little bit more about this.

On listing for goals, have you suggested anything Yes. What? PC: Suggested that people shouldn't do them out of session.

LRH: All right. PC: Hm. LRH: Good.

All right. On listing for goals have you suggested anything? That's clean.

Thank you. On listing is there anything you have suggested? A little halt.

PC: Well, only a silly little thing comes up. LRH: What's that? PC: That people, when they list them, leave c margin for the checkout for the auditor to tick them off LRH: Okay.

All right. On listing have you suggested anything All right, that's clean. All right.

On listing have you suppressed anything? All right, that's clean. On listing have you invalidated anything?

There's a reaction. Have you invalidated anything on listing? TV DEMO: 14 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: I invalidated, I suppose to some extent, whether my lists – um – was long enough.

That was – I did that today when I saw downstairs you'd put a notice on the board – where I did that today. LRH: All right. On listing have you invalidated anything?

All right, that's clean. On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right.

It's probably clean, but I'll check it again. On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right, that's clean.

All right. On listing is there anything you have been careful of? Yes.

What have you been careful of? PC: Careful to make my pen writing legible, which it always isn't. LRH: All right.

Very good. All right. On listing is there anything you have been careful of?

Still a reaction. Different reaction. There it is.

There it is. Right there. PC: This is – um – outside of Scientology altogether, and it is listing items in a book which was a false postage book.

Names of people, you see, and you make a long list out and all these people are supposed to have letters. This wasn't an overt against the firm or anything, it was an overt against the government, you see. LRH: All right.

PC: It was a way of getting some expenses. But I remember laboriously doing this. Yes.

LRH: Okay. All right. On listing, on listing is there anything you have failed to reveal?

Yes. What? PC: Well, I – what I failed to reveal is right just now, that I felt quite a sense of relief when I told you that about that postage book.

LRH: All right. Very good, very good. All right.

Let me backtrack one. PC: All right. LRH: On listing is there anything you have invalidated?

All right, that's good. On listing is there anything you have failed to reveal? All right, that's clean.

All right. On listing is there anything you have been careful of? Now, there's a slowdown there again.

PC: I was careful to do that list – so careful that I used different pens, and so the color – if anybody was checking this, you see, they wouldn't say this was all done on the same day with the ink. The ink was all different color. It was clever.

LRH: All right. Very, very good. All right.

On listing is there anything you have been careful of? That is clean. Thank you.

I'm sorry to backtrack on this. All right, that's all right though. Very good.

Now, on listing have you told any half-truths? All right, TV DEMO: 15 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II that's clean. On listing have you told any untruths?

All right, that's clean. On listing have you deliberately tried to influence an E-Meter? I got a reaction of some sort, but just riding through that so I'll ask again.

On listing have you deliberately tried to influence an E-Meter? No, all right, that's clean. On listing have you failed to answer a question or command?

All right, that's clean. All right. Thank you.

Now, on listing have you tried to damage someone? Yes. Who did you try to damage on listing?

There it is. There it is. PC: Bobby comes to mind, but I can't get any time I did it.

LRH: Who? PC: Bobby McPherson. LRH: Oh, all right.

Okay, well, let's check it. What are you puzzled about? PC: I can't say.

LRH: All right. All right. On listing have you tried to damage someone?

All right, that's clean. PC: All right. LRH: Just to clarify your own mind about it, what were you – what were you worrying about there?

PC: Well, I couldn't get the time when I had tried to damage Bobby. She came to mind when you asked the question, which I told you basically and I couldn't – anyhow, I wanted to find out the time when I'd actually done this. LRH: Well, does this leave you hung up on it?

PC: No, no, no, I'm quite happy. LRH: Are you sure? PC: Oh, no, I'm quite happy if the needle is clean on it.

Relieved in fact that I haven't got to go around digging and delving. LRH: All right. Okay.

Needle's clean. PC: Good. LRH: Just didn't want to leave you hung up.

PC: That's okay. LRH: All right. On listing have you failed to answer a question or command?

Question. You failed to answer a question on this? PC: I tried to answer that question just now.

TV DEMO: 16 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. Very good. PC: Thank you for listening.

LRH: Okay. On listing have you failed to answer a question or command? That is clean.

Very, very good. All right, that being clean, we will now put in our middle ruds for the session. All right.

In this session is there anything you have suppressed? In this session is there anything you have invalidated? Yes.

PC: I just invalidated – I – while you were reading the suppressed I had the thought, well, I've got it so mocked up there's a filthy needle over there. LRH: There's not a filthy needle now. PC: No, I thought, well that's what it is.

It will give the students a good chance to show how to read through one. So there was some – I was invalidating that thought. LRH: All right.

Very good, very good. It isn't too bad. It cleans up as I go here.

PC: Good. LRH: In this session is there anything you have invalidated? All right.

Thank you. That's all right. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?

Yes. PC: Failed to reveal the fact that just as I was coming up here, bashed into Jenny and she says, “Good luck. “And I thought “Will you shut up, “you know, and stir everything up. LRH: All right.

Very good. All right. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right. There was a change of pace in the needle. Let me make sure that is clean.

In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? I got a change of pave of the needle. Is there any little other thing you failed to reveal in the session?

There's something right there. PC: That my hands were sweating at one time. LRH: All right.

PC: Or still are, for that matter. LRH: Okay. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?

No read. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? That's all right, that's all right.

That's fine. In this session is there anything you have been careful of? Yes.

What have you been careful of? PC: Careful to do what you told me. LRH: All right.

Okay. All right. Let me check that on the meter.

In this session is there anything you have been careful of? That. More.

TV DEMO: 17 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: More? Um . . . LRH: What else have you been careful of?

PC: Oh yes, been careful to try and find um – the – an overt rather than the motivator, or anything like that. LRH: Oh, all right. All right.

Thank you. In this session is there anything you have been careful of? All right, that's clean.

Okay. All right, now here's this goal again. PC: All right.

LRH: All right. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.

To leave my wife. To leave my wife. All right.

I'm going to try one more thing. Is there anyone to whom you have not revealed this goal? PC: My wife.

LRH: All right. Thank you. Thank you.

To leave my wife. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.

I get a little slowdown. You might tell me if there's anyone else that you failed to reveal this goal to. PC: My brother, my children.

LRH: All right. Okay. PC: Relatives.

LRH: All right. Thank you. I'll check that on the meter.

Is there anyone that you failed to reveal this goal to? Is there anyone you failed to reveal this goal to? I get action here. who else?

PC: Oh, my father. LRH: Good. PC: Guy named Jack Dickey.

LRH: Good. PC: The – um – my employees. LRH: Good.

PC: Business associates. LRH: Good. PC: Um – anybody outside Scientology circles.

I'm not saying any Scientologists, but anybody outside I haven't revealed it to. TV DEMO: 18 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. Very good.

Okay. Now, is there anyone that you have failed to reveal this goal to? There's still a little slowdown there.

PC: I thought of my children, particularly then. LRH: All right. Very good.

Let's just hit this the easy way. What's the first time you failed to reveal this to anybody? Can you spot that?

There it is. PC: Well, it'd be the uh . . . LRH: There it is.

PC: Just after Mary Sue found it. The next time I went home to see – the next time I went home I failed to reveal it to my wife then. LRH: All right.

Very good. All right. On this goal is there anyone you have failed to reveal it to?

I've got no reaction on that now. Good. All right.

To leave my wife. Slows – stops the needle. To leave my wife.

Stops the needle. To leave my wife. All right.

Let me try this goal, half of it. To leave. To leave.

To leave. All right, that isn't reacting. It reacted just once.

To leave my wife. To leave my wife. It reacted that time.

To leave my wife. Reacts on to and leave and . . . To leave my wife.

To leave my wife. To leave my wife. It's not reacting, uh – occasionally, occasionally get a reaction on this thing.

How much have you listed this now? PC: Well, this is several pages of the who would want to, and some on oppose. LRH: Any TA action?

PC: Yes, quite a lot. Getting quite a lot of TA action on that. LRH: I'm going to say it a few more times here.

To leave my wife. To leave my wife. To leave my wife.

To leave my wife. It's not now reacting. Lot of TA action.

What do you feel about listing it? How do you feel when you list? PC: Well, I've one stage I went through quite a dopiness, felt as if I had flu, and so on.

Then I came through that. LRH: Yes. PC: And that was fine.

It's when we started listing the other side that uh – the opp – the opposition to the goal. LRH: Um-mm. PC: And that felt all right.

I've never had any – well some somatics did turn on – um – legs, and so on. LRH: You did – have not had any? PC: I did have some somatics, in the legs . . .

TV DEMO: 19 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. Did they get worse or better? PC: Well, we went through them, and they went out.

LRH: All right. Let me say this goal again. I'D leave my wife.

All right. Who or what would not want to leave my wife? Who or what would want to leave my wife?

You think that is amusing to read the goal that way, don't you? PC: Yes. LRH: That's the only charge I got on it too.

All right, all right. Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife? Thank you. who or what would want – would not want the goal to leave my wife?

All right, Who or what would oppose the goal to leave my wife? Thank you. Who or what would not oppose the goal to leave my wife?

All right, I'll say it one more time. who or what would not oppose the goal to leave my wife? Thank you. Interesting.

I don't get any – any needle reaction on the lists lines... PC: Mm. LRH: . . . beyond your trying to suppress laughter.

Now, we're going to look into this just a little bit more here just for a second, and then we're going to let you off the hook. Okay? PC: All right.

LRH: Goal, goal, goal. All right, let me get in the middle rudiments. In this session is there anything you have suppressed?

Invalidated? Failed to reveal? Something there?

Anything you failed to reveal? PC: Failed to reveal that I felt you might have said a wife instead of my wife when you were reading the line. LRH: All right.

PC: You might want to read a wife instead of my wife. LRH: Thank you. Thank you.

In this session is there anything you have been careful of? Thank you, that doesn't read. All right.

Who or what would oppose the goal to leave my wife? Who or what would not oppose the goal to leave my wife? Who or what would want the goal to leave my wife?

Who or what would not want the goal to leave my wife? Okay. Goal, goal, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals.

Now what are you thinking of? PC: I was thinking of Dick sitting down here because he's checked this goal so many times. That's what I was thinking of then.

LRH: All right. Is this an invalidation? Yeah?

TV DEMO: 20 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: What, for Dick? LRH: Yeah. PC: No, I didn't look on it as an invalidation.

I thought he'd be rather interested to see this. LRH: All right. Goals, goals, goals.

All right, thank you very much. As far as we're concerned that goal is deader than a flounder, and so are all of its lines. Okay?

PC: All right. LRH: Right. All right.

Here we are and we're going into the end ruds. Okay? PC: Fine.

LRH: All right. In this session have you told me any half-truth? Untruth?

Said something only to impress me? Or tried to damage anyone? What's the damage?

PC: Just thought of Dick. I didn't try to damage him, but might have done with what I said. LRH: All right.

Thank you. In this session have you tried to damage anyone? Thank you.

That is clear. In this session have you deliberately tried to influence the E-Meter? I got a slowdown there.

PC: Oh, I just realized my hands are sort of tightened up and are hot on the cans. LRH: All right. In this session have you deliberately tried to influence the E-Meter?

All right. Thank you, that is clean. In this session have you failed to answer any question or command?

Thank you, that is clean. In this session have you failed to reveal anything? I've got a reaction on that.

Is that because I used a different rudiment? PC: No, well, I realized it was different, and I just thought that it didn't worry me. It seemed real.

LRH: There's something right there. Bingbing, bing-bing, bing-bing, bing-bing. What are you thinking about there?

PC: Uh – well – um this should – you found this goal isn't in. It isn't the goal, and so you found it isn't the goal. Um – well, I feel it – I feel in one way it should have answered something, and in another way, well, it shouldn't.

I mean nothing is – oh, I don't know, I was a bit confused about that. But that's . . . LRH: Do you want me to say – to tell you more?

Ill check this rudiment first. PC: Fair enough. TV DEMO: 21 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right.

In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal? I got a rest . . . PC: Yes it's a – I've failed to reveal the fact that I'm not surprised that it's no longer alive.

And um – there's something that keeps hitting me here. Well, I'll leave it at that, that I – I'm not surprised. I found that I'm not surprised that it's not reacting anymore.

LRH: Very good. I'll repeat the question. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right. There's the tiniest ghost of a slowdown. You might care – it's – most of it's gone, but there might be a little more ghost or something, little something PC: I'm rather pleased it's gone.

I feel I'll get my teeth into something else better. LRH: All right. Thataboy.

All right. Thank you. In this session is there anything you have failed to reveal?

All right, that's flat. Okay. Now, are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties?

PC: Sure. LRH: All right. I'm going to have to check that again.

Are you willing to talk to me about your difficulties? All right. There's no reaction there.

Thank you. Now look around here and tell me if you can have anything. PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Something kicking you. Notice anything wrong with the room?

PC: I notice the plug out there, but it doesn't seem to be anything wrong. LRH: All right. PC: A camera missing up there.

LRH: All right. Now, tell me if you can have anything PC: Yes, the carpet. LRH: All right.

Thank you. Look around here and tell me if you can have anything PC: Yes. LRH: I've still got a little bang now, there's a little bang here.

Tell me something. PC: The settee, the door knob, the window plate on the door. LRH: All right.

Thank you, that's better. All right. Look around here and tell me if you can have anything.

PC: Okay. TV DEMO: 22 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right, that's good enough. Squeeze the cans.

All right. That's what I thought. What was I running on you the last time?

Reach or Feel? PC: Feel. LRH: All right.

Put the cans down. All right. Feel that table.

All right. Feel the arm of the chair there. Thank you.

Feel that side. Okay. Feel the cloth.

Thank you. Feel your lapel. Thank you.

Feel the top of your head. Thank you. Feel the cuffs of your coat.

Thank you. All right. Pick up the cans.

Squeeze the cans. That's much better, that's good enough. That was the last of it.

All right. Have you made any part of your goals for this session? PC: Not certain if we sorted that goal out or not.

LRH: All right. PC: I certainly feel quite a lot better than I did when I came in. LRH: Okay.

Any other gains you'd care to mention? PC: Yes, the – uh, looking at the various aspects that come up, and although you apparently had some difficulty with them, there's nothing really serious it seemed to me. I'm rather pleased about that, and it's helped to know you're not – you haven't got a lot of overts that are still buried, and so on.

LRH: Oh, all right. PC: That's quite a gain. LRH: All right.

Good enough. Is there anything you'd care to say or ask before I end this session? PC: Well, you were going to tell me something, but. . .

LRH: All right I will, I'll tell you something. PC: Uh-huh. LRH: If that was your goal . . .

PC: Yes. LRH: ... it's perfectly safe to do something else. It won't get in your road.

PC: Thank you. Yes. LRH: You understand?

PC: Yes. TV DEMO: 23 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II LRH: All right. You've either listed it to a null or something I don't want to say that that would be good policy, but where a goal is equivocal . . .

PC: Um-mm. LRH: ... or what might or might not be, and where you did develop somatics and some flu on it, and so forth, the discussion of this goal has not shifted the tone arm. PC: I see.

Yes. LRH: Clearing it up has not shifted the tone arm. PC: Yes.

LRH: The lines that I've read that should be listed . . . PC: Um-mm. LRH: ... have not shifted the needle.

PC: I see, yes. LRH: So obviously there is no disturbance because of it, and there's no invalidations or suppressions on it. So what would you think?

PC: It's dead. LRH: Uh... PC: Obviously cleaned up I would say.

LRH: Well, there's obviously, there's obviously. And I always looked at this goal – that's so I won't have a withhold from you . . . PC: Mm.

LRH: ... as something that was awful close to PT. PC: Yes. LRH: It always made me nervous.

PC: Mm. LRH: So I'm perfectly willing for you to find another goal. And what do you know?

This goal goes on the list, and you find it again, why fine. PC: All right. LRH: Okay?

PC: Yes. LRH: That answer the question? TV DEMO: 24 CHECKING OUT A GOAL, PART II PC: Thank you very much.

LRH: Give you all the data? PC: Yes. LRH: All right.

That wasn't an evaluation, was it? PC: Not at all. LRH: All right.

You didn't think of that as an evaluation, did you? PC: No. LRH: No, that's fine.

All right. All right. Is it all right with you if I end this session?

PC: Yes. LRH: All right. Here it is.

End of session. PC: Thank you. LRH: All right.

Session ended for you? PC: Yes, thank you. LRH: All right.

Tell me I am no longer auditing you. PC: You are no longer auditing me. LRH: Good enough.