Universes (4ACC 540323)
Series: 4th Advanced Clinical Course (4ACC)
Date: 23 March 1954
Speaker: L. Ron Hubbard
Okay. This is March 23rd, 1954. Second lecture of the day.
The problem of universes is the resolution of any case, at any level. The elementary entrance into this problem is Beingness Processing, just as you have been doing it. You get the preclear to be this and be that and be something else, and get him back there and get him to be the original piece of space and the original mass and so forth. Just like you've been doing it. And this is pretty good. Runs very well.
Now, however, there is a level of case on which this runs very slowly, very slowly and runs quite boggily. And there are some other oddities. There is the oddity of the fellow who can flood in lots of planets, but who doesn't seem to get any benefit from it—from an avalanche. And there's the fellow that regardless of what you do, it all stays black. And there's the fellow, who, regardless of how many times and how forcefully you tell him, refuses to be three feet back of his head. Well, there's also the fellow who goes around screaming, "What wall? What wall? What wall?"
Now, I've already given you the Sub-zero techniques earlier. Remember? They start in with Mimicry. You can even pull that one on a catatonic schiz. Catatonic schiz is lying there and you get a bed and lie down too. They get suspicious of you after a while. But, funny part of it is, is the lower the level of case, the more time is involved because, actually, time is the single aberration. The co-action of particles, that's the single aberration. So, of course, you get more time, the more case enters in there. The tougher the case is, the more time factor is liable to be involved in processing it.
Well, let's take this case, now, that is very, very, very bad off. And let's study this problem, now—for the first time as far as you're concerned—from the standpoint of universes. Well, let's take the evolution of any case and we discover the individual was minding his own business—he had a universe or something of his own—and then he saw the MEST universe and, size being a matter of consideration, to some degree coincided his universe with the physical universe. You know, he said, "Well, it's the same size, I can coincide it" and a bit of action, activity went on there. We're not too interested in the exact mechanic. But let's just say that he got universe then and he coincided with the physical universe. Well, when he did this and did it fairly accurately, he could then observe the physical universe. Up to that time, he couldn't observe it, of course. He had no coincidence of universes. There was never any active, actual interchange of energy between the physical universe and his universe, but there was a complete paralleling.
Well now, is it a paralleling of objects? No. Paralleling of the energies in the two? No. Paralleling of the anchor points? No. The paralleling of the spots. Just spot, independent of anything else. It's a spot in space.
You understand, if you had a cube independent of any object inside the cube there could be a spot, let us say, at one inch on the diagonal between two of the upper corners. There would be that spot, you know, and it wouldn't have to have anything there, it would be a spot. And this would be an unalterable spot. Now, get how unalterable this spot is. Oh boy. Well, you can't alter it by moving around energy. You could only alter it by moving around the spaces.
But would you move it if it were sitting there as the same spot for two universes, one of which was smaller than the other, and it was the same spot for both universes? Now, this would take a sort of a messy sort of a consideration, wouldn't it? You'd say, "Here are two spaces and there's the same spot in both these universes, both these spaces, and yet one of the universes is much smaller than the other universe." Nyaaom! You see immediately we're posed with an incredible piece of business here. Well, that's why it's difficult to process because it is apparently incredible.
Now, what actually happens, however, is after he has paralleled these two universes—let's say he's paralleled his own universe and the physical universe—the thetan then continues to assume that the spot in space of the physical universe has been recorded and is still the spot in space in the physical universe in his own universe. That is to say, he carries a record of it in his own universe.
Now, he's decided that the physical universe is much bigger and much more powerful than his universe and having so considered it, why, his own universe is much smaller than the physical universe. So now he's got his own universe, now, as a small map—a microcosm, you might say—a small map of the physical universe. Once he had them mocked-up the same size so all the spots were coincident, but now that his universe is so much smaller than the physical universe we have, of course, a condition whereby the spots of the physical universe are apparently much closer together than anybody else agrees they are.
Now, according to his own universe the distance from Keokuk to Nagasaki is a few thousand miles, according to his own universe. And in its original state this would be true. But after he has had his own universe subjected to bombardment and this and that, and he's contracted it and it's much less powerful—the other universe, the big universe, the physical universe, that's much stronger than his universe—if he were to look, now, at this original consideration, Keokuk and Nagasaki several thousand miles apart, he'd find Keokuk and Nagasaki a few inches apart. Now, that's the observable phenomenon. Originally, you see, they were several thousand miles apart, but now his universe has suffered a diminution in terms of size in comparison to the MEST universe. Physical universe, very big; his own universe, very small. But his own universe continues to mirror all these points of space of the big universe, see—the physical universe. It isn't that the preclear's own universe is necessarily smaller or larger than the physical universe. This is a matter of consideration.
All right. Well, we do wind up with a microcosm, and we wind up with a map, you might say, of the physical universe where all the spots in space are really the spots in space, but they're only a map of the spots in space. So he gets what? He shuts his eyes and, without any further evaluation for himself, he would actually consider that the distance from one point to another point, if he were just looking at it, would be very small. See? He'd consider this was a very small distance, but he knows it's a very large distance. In other words, his whole proposition of size has been upset. Spots in space—they're coincident.
Well, now, as his anchor points get driven in, as life beats him around one way or the other, his own universe actually gets smaller and smaller and smaller in accordance to, and in comparison with, the physical universe and, eventually, actually collapses down to a small ball, which still contains all these spots.
Well, what are these spots in the first place? Any spot that is significant is a spot where something happened, which mustn't happen again. It's a spot we must avoid, in other words. And all these spots which we must avoid are mirrored in his own universe, so he avoids them in his own universe. And what's the net result? The net result is that he begins to avoid every spot in his own universe. And of course, if he avoids all of them and pushes hard enough against them, they will push that hard against him because he's the one that's doing the pushing anyhow, and they will wind up to a small ball, every point of which is very significant, every point of which is dangerous.
This is the small black ball that you find when the individual makes up space. You say, "Make up some space" and he'll look around and he'll find a small black ball in the middle of it. What is it? It's his own universe, he'll tell you kind of confusedly. This phenomenon is not unknown.
Now we take the case level of V and we find his own universe collapsed around him to such a degree that it has taken on the shape and size and form of a body. This is quite normal. So when he exteriorizes, he doesn't exteriorize. He isn't a dot which exteriorizes. He exteriorizes into all the universe there is, which is his own universe. And he can't exteriorize in that universe because it's all the universe there is, you see. The physical universe, as far as he's concerned, of the thetan, doesn't exist. He's operating in his own universe, but his own universe is the physical universe. But this is all around him and it's packed in against the body and, of course, every spot in it is significant and he must avoid all the spots in it. So he's lost. His own universe has diminished from something the size of the physical universe down to something the size of the body.
And now we can get somebody, theoretically, whose own universe has collapsed down to the size of a small part of the sphere of the skull. See? He'd just really be lost. The smaller this gets, the more lost he is, by the way.
Now, what's the phenomenon? He's got a map which he's actually living in which is coincident to the MEST universe. And then this map of his own universe has all of its spots—places you mustn't go to—and of course he avoids all these spots, so these spots come in toward him and the next thing you know he's got a small universe. But the physical universe is still sitting out there, but as a thetan he can't see it anymore. He has to depend on some other universe to show it to him. So he uses the body's universe. He plugs into the body's universe and tries to mock his universe up to match the body's universe. Because the body is a very compact sort of a universe and he takes the evaluation from the body's universe. He's still got his own universe. This is getting very curious, isn't it?
Here you have somebody who has his own universe, and something weird and horrible has happened to it, and it's terribly significant and he must avoid that. But actually he's using the body's universe, and the only universe he has, anyway, is a universe which approximates other universes. But apparently, as far as he's concerned, he's got the body's universe evaluating for him the dimensions of the MEST universe. Well, let's say his body's universe is in pretty good shape and does it very accurately.
But let's say somebody else, now, his body's universe is in horrible condition and it's in a collapsing state. Well, if it's in a collapsing state, this individual can no longer depend upon its observation of distances and so we get misapprehension in depth perception as one of its manifestations. Everything starts looking flat to the MEST eyes. The physical eyes begin to see everything two-dimensionally. We get things closing in on the individual. He looks, for instance, at a person he doesn't like very much and he's liable to see a black frame around the person or he's liable to see a curtain dropping across the world or everything is liable to get very dim and he starts wearing glasses. That's just the body's universe—on which he is depending, itself independent of his action—is collapsing. That's another universe. But that universe got there more or less in the same way. And we'll at least assume this for our working, just assume it, that the body got there by collapsing and getting nicely packed in and tight on a certain design, having approximated the physical universe and then approximated, eventually, something smaller and something harder and something solider. It's actually a different breed of cat, but for our purposes we could merely assume the body universe got there in the same way as the thetan's universe. The body then is a spread-around universe that's gotten thick and has mass and is in such total agreement with the MEST universe that everybody agrees he can see it. So we have the body as an even more degraded state. It is totally dependent upon the physical universe and it is buttered all over the universe, you could say—that Life runs all through the body. The body has "learned how" from the physical universe.
Well, now this wouldn't be so bad, you see. You could exteriorize our preclear from that body universe if his own universe was in bad disuse and he was totally depending on the body's universe. You could still exteriorize him, but the moment you exteriorized him you'd find out that he didn't have any perception. Heh! Of course, he couldn't have any perception because his own universe is in a state of collapse. Well, he's never investigated or looked over the state of his own universe up to the moment when you backed him up.
Now, he was all set, letting the body evaluate for him, using the body's idea of what it should see and what it should hear and you back him up and bang! He's in his own universe. And its space is very badly collapsed. And it is no longer in agreement with the physical universe because it's too horrible. Every spot in the space is significant. You could track him from one end of the galaxy to the other and find that in 76 trillion years there's hardly a spot he missed getting hit on, one way or the other, by something, somewhere.
So you have a series of impacts. These impacts still exist. The objects are gone. But remember, there is something there which isn't gone; that is the spot where the incident occurred. Well, that's gone, so he must avoid the spot. He will avoid the spot, before he will avoid and after he will avoid the objects involved in any impact.
Now, too, it's confusing because you say, well, there's a spot on Earth where he was hit. Well, yeah, but Earth has moved a long way through space, since. Well, actually the spot he was hit is way back there in the track of Earth someplace, you know. It's out there in that space somewhere. Well, he'll discover this sooner or later. He likes to think of the spots he's been hit as being nicely located for him by MEST universe objects, such as "I was hit down at the corner of Whumph and Whump Street." And he knows just where he was hit. But the funny part of it is that Earth, in one direction alone, is proceeding at a thousand miles an hour as an object, so that piece of space is different a split second after he was hit. Well, this confusion gets to him. He just gives up after a while and he says, "Well, let's just skip the whole thing and we'll sort of depend on the body to the bitter end and, of course, if it does reach a bitter end, we'll try to find another body." And after a while he gets to a point where he can't control that body and he feels he might be able to change his styling and depend on the universe of an ant or a plant or a cactus or something of the sort, see. He'll always have to put a dependency on some other universe, unless you straighten this out for him.
What's he mixed up in? He's mixed up in now, as we've checked it off, first, he had his own universe which he made coincide with the physical universe. All right, that's good. But now we've got two universes. His own universe—he didn't need that in the first place, he mocked-up a piece of space in order to have some fun. The next thing you know, he mocked-up some energy and then he mocked it all up to coincide with the physical universe so he could look at that. He did that slowly, by the way—as he saw more and more physical universe and learned more and more about it, you could actually say that his universe was expanding into the physical universe. It sooner or later will.
Have you ever noticed that a preclear—"Places where you're not thinking" particularly—he'll spot places that are clear out to the other end of the galaxy? You know? Well, he's on the inversion. So although it collapses once, it'll go on back out again. We needn't be particular about this. This is unimportant. What is important is we've now got him his own universe. Now, this has approximated the physical universe, he's seen the physical universe, now he's withdrawn to some degree from the physical universe, he's dependent upon the body's universe, the body's universe is collapsing. Heh! We are now involved with three universes—or at least the mock-up of three universes.
Well, as I told you, this would not be a bad case just as far as we've gone. We could disentangle this. We could, rather easily. But so help me, our preclear has been around for quite a while and the body has been around for quite a while and the body has been coincident with many thetans, life after life. That universe, in other words, has been so coincident with thetans, time after time, that it, each time, has had an approximation foisted off on it of the thetan's universe. So it's a conglomerate mass of many universes. But your thetan has been in connection with body after body, so he himself has a conglomerate mass of other strange universes. Well, now that isn't tough. We still could unravel this, one way or the other if we had to go all-out. But we begin to appreciate that there's something here to unravel in terms of universes. We've got a lot of universes and they're pretty snarled up.
Now, at this stage your case ceases to be an easy stage. The first time that it runs into the fact that the body has been associated with more than one thetan, the first time that the thetan has been associated with more than one body, we start to get into trouble. And then we get into the reductio ad absurdum trouble which is interpersonal relationships this lifetime. Because we find that the person could survive all of this that we've gone into, up to the interpersonal relation point, with great case. And you would still have a preclear who could regain his sonic, his visio and exteriorize and do various things on the processes we have.
But now, let's get into the toughie. Let's get the tough case: this fellow has been so thoroughly—or this girl—has been so thoroughly concentrated upon some other person or being or object in this lifetime, and many other persons or at least one other person has been so concentrated upon your preclear that they get a current lifetime exchange of universes. So we've just compounded the felony. And this is the tough case.
Let's describe about a Step III. We find out he had his universe mocked-up (that made him kind of dumb) and then he went over here and he coincided it with the physical universe and this coincidence of universe collapsed and he started to use a body and so we've got the third universe entered in there. And then we realize that the body has had many sequences of lives, many cycles and has been associated with many universes during those cycles and many environments, so has many different patterns (we can still unravel this). And the thetan as an individual has been associated with many body universes (that is to say, many of those—we still aren't in trouble), until in the current lifetime, the individual has become so interested, so concentrated upon or so frightened of (all the same thing for our purposes, something that's other-determined him, in other words), so forcefully and so consistently, that he has shifted valence. And we pick up our Step IV. And when we have this person so concentrated that he's shifted valence and then run into somebody who shifted valence on him again, we've got our V. You're running two universes removed in this lifetime.
And you process and you process and you process and you process and you work this and you work that. And he gets a little easier about life and he feels a little bit better and the chronic somatics come off and he's doing all right. Case going real slow. I hate to tell you what you're processing. On somebody who's totally black and can't exteriorize, you're normally processing at least two universes removed from the first set of three. You know? I mean, all these other conglomerates aside, he is actually "in the valence of." Now if we get into First Book terminology, we simply say he's "in the valence of." He's "in the universe of" —our current terminology. He's in the universe of. Because this is technically accurate—he is in the universe of some other person in this lifetime, who probably is still alive. And somebody else is in his universe in this lifetime. And then we've got a real tough case.
Because God knows what you're processing. Whose aberrations are you processing? Aunt Nellie's? Mama's? So you're taking this guy's glasses off, so we process him and process him and process him. Well, you're processing the body universe, you think, but actually he's processing Papa's universe. While you're processing the body universe, yon think, he's processing Papa's universe. And probably he hasn't seen Papa for a long time, but he still has viewpoints into Papa's universe and he's processing Papa's engrams. This is real cute, isn't it? This just gets so tangled that, actually, unless you had an immediate remedy for it, you could practically faint. If the process of running this were not very simple, you could get in bad trouble.
Now, let's find somebody who has, in this lifetime, been so concentrated on somebody else that he's in that valence. And somebody else has concentrated on him so much that they're kind of in his valence, too. And you know, points of coincidence, they have many impacts in common, lots of things in common this way and that—their universes get twisted. Now, let's really get it upset by finding out that before anything else happens, the body's universe has got something standing in the road and is barring these two other universe interchanges, which is taking priority, because of several impacts and various frights which he has gotten in this life. And we may find ourselves processing the genetic entity universe line of half a million years ago, as the entrance point to the case.
How do we know what the entrance point of the case is? Fortunately, the universes are lying there—as conglomerate as they are, they lie there in an orderly sequence as far as he's concerned. That sequence is not particularly plotted against time—time is in there, time is important—but it's the sequence of what will come off the case first. This you don't have to particularly worry about. As a matter of fact, you could mess up the case by worrying about it.
What are all these beingnesses he's being? Just take Beingness Processing: What are all these? You found he was able to be a stove. You found he was able to be an ashcan. How come he could be a stove? How can he be an ashcan? Well, he could be a stove in his own universe and resolve it swiftly but, by golly, if he's being the stove in his father's universe, you're not going to resolve it very fast, are you? That's the stove you had him be. You know, when you found him—he could be this, he could be this, and he could be that, and this one blew up and that one blew up and this didn't worry him anymore and all of a sudden, Chong. One hung up like mad. That is in another universe so distinctly different than any universe you've been processing up to that date, that it goes in with a thud. He just jumped universes on you. He didn't even know he did it.
Now, let's take another complexity. Let's find some guy that we start to remedy havingness on. And boy, he just pours in the planets and, oh, he goes through this process and that process, and he duplicates and he works and he sweats and whee! Nothing happens, nothing happens. It just doesn't seem to remedy very much. Well, you can flood all the planets you want to into Mama's universe and you're not going to clear up many of your preclear's basic difficulties of perception. As long as he's in Mama's universe, you haven't got a direct swing at it, because he doesn't know what he's doing. His knowingness is so low on this that it doesn't do him any good. So we have a proposition of where we're trying to clear up the preclear's perception and we're flooding planets into Mama's universe. There's nothing going to happen. That's obvious. Unless you do an awful lot of it and eventually he's sort of being out of Mama's universe one way or the other. A lot of locks would turn up but, oh boy, that's a slow freight—slow freight, all the way.
That's your case that's hanging up: the case where you think you're processing the preclear and he's processing about five universes removed from anything he ever heard of. Quite normal. The manifestation of such a case is to have a large energy mass out in front of its face which it doesn't seem to affect very much—it doesn't seem to influence this much by processing. You run various processes on it, it's still got this energy mass. You trace down the fact that all of his somatics are actually his mother's but, by golly, not one of them relieves. They change a little bit but they come back and they do various strange, peculiar things. And this is the (quote) "perplexing" (unquote) case. He's perplexing mostly because he's perplexed. It is, what universe is he in, anyhow?
Let's take up just winning valences, and let's see that any winning valence is liable to have a total universe associated with it. Well, he could be in some winning valence to such a degree that he would then go on processing that universe. So we find somebody who is being a locomotive and we find out that he's processing the universe of a locomotive. He processes all of his engineers, and he processes—heh!—he processes the cinders on the track and he's very interested in light signals and he'll process all these things, so on. But he doesn't seem to be getting any better. Well, that's mostly because he's processing a locomotive. He's trying to be a better locomotive. You're not trying to get a better locomotive, you're trying to get a better thetan. Wrong goal. See? Different goal.
All right. Now, when we get plowing along the line with a preclear, he doesn't go bing-bing-bing, remedy. What you do doesn't seem to have much effect upon him, or when we get any preclear along the line and his case sort of stops moving—it will, sooner or later—we're up against the problem of: "Universe, universe, what universe am I in?"
Now actually, in the First Unit we had the "What wall?" case. Well, we shifted that in the Second Unit to the "What fog?" case. Now, in the Fourth Unit, we've got the "What universe?" case. Now, actually, the first two classifications of "What wall?" and "What fog?" are only a definition of the condition. The other is actually the solution.
Now, if you ever looked for funny manifestations in processing, you're now going to find them. You've been trained up, now, to a point where you have quite a little experience in auditing, so forth, and you should be able to pick your way through this morass. You have to do it in order to set and hit a hundred-mark. Now, earlier Units, they have had enough scrambling around and experience by this time, certainly, so that when they get these tapes (and they will), why, they will be able to go to work on this rather rapidly.
Okay. Taken quite a little while, mostly to codify it. The process which is run is as follows. The keynote of it, of course, is the disentanglement of universes. You don't tell the preclear what you're doing, you don't tell him you're now going to disentangle his universes (you're just going to get him beautifully confused). The next point is you are taking advantage of—those things which have overcome the preclear are winning valences and he will try to protect them. A preclear will try to protect anything which has bested him. That's a little rule of thumb. Not only will he try to be in the winning valence so that he can win, but he will try to protect any winning valence he is in. You get that protection.
So this leads to the simplest possible question in terms of this process, which is: "Now, I want some places where (blank) would be safe." That's the key question: "Give me some places where (blank) would be safe." It is varied for the preclear who's having some difficulty, "Well, I want some places where (blank) would be safe in the past." And in the "blank" there, you simply place the personnel involved, whose universe you suspect. "Give me some places where Mama would be safe in the past." You're shooting for Mama's universe. "Give me some more places where Mama would be safe in the past." Some more. Some more. Some more. Some more.
I'll tell you the error you're going to make. I can tell you right now the error you're going to make. It's an inevitable error, is the tougher the case is, the more of these universes have to be run out. But fortunately they run out at a faster and faster rate. But the error you're going to make as an auditor—until you've found out that you've made that error and then you won't make it again—is not running it long enough. You're going to have a tendency to give it a lick and a promise. Because unfortunately, a fellow who is really stuck in Mama's universe takes an awful lot of weeding out. He weeds out with just that phrase and its variation, "in the past." "Give me some places where Mama would be safe—where Mama would be safe in the past." If he's having difficulty, why, "where Mama would be safe in the past."
Now, there's another little error you're liable to make. And that is not sitting there with one knee on the preclear's body-universe chest and asking him continually—trying not to be too suspicious in voice tone—"Now, how did you do that?" Meaning, "What the hell are you doing now?" "Now, how did you do that?"
Because you'll find yourself sitting—sooner or later you'll be caught off guard by this. You think your preclear can follow orders and you'll find your preclear doing some outrageous computation on this. And you talk about being a cowboy wrangler—a sheepdog is more like it. He'll get going in a certain direction and he will just persist in that direction, until you suddenly realize that he is doing something strange and head him off. Well, the more often that you could find out what he's doing, why, the happier you're going to be because he's going to do things like this:
"Well," you say, "now, all right, give me some places where Mama would be safe."
"Oh, yap-yap and yap-yap and Guam and the North Pole and the South Pole, and yap-yap and yap-yap-yap-yap-yap-yap-yap." And forty-five minutes later, "Yap-yap-yap-yap-yap-yap-yap." And an hour later, "Yap-yap-yap-yap-yap."
You say—if you haven't awakened to the fact that nothing happened in the first two minutes, you didn't see anything happening and that you should have had something happen then—if you didn't awaken to the fact that something was going wrong here, he can just go on forever. Because he's made this neat little computation—cute! "Heh! Nothing could happen to her. She's perfectly safe there because she's not there. Ha-ha-ha!" It won't work. That's just a sample of what a preclear will do to you with this process.
When the process is well enough tested, if you don't get results with it, you just are letting the preclear do any damn thing that comes into his mind. He'll find some of the weirdest ones. That's a real cute one, but that I think is the most chronic one. "Of course she's perfectly safe there because she's not there!"
That is "by the impossible." That's "Location by the Impossible." We covered this in the Second Unit—by the incredible, by the impossible. This preclear is doing this just happily, on and on and on and on and on. Not doing him a bit of good. You're probably—if they get to such dodges as this—they can do that for a little while. Sure, sure. That gets them their foot in and gets their communication line rolling. It's about time you say, "All right, now where would Mama really be safe?" They have to come to the conclusion that Mama would not be safe in present time, Mama would be safe in the past only. So they can pick up such a thing as Mama is safe in the present—Mama, in the present time, would be safe in the living room where she was a month ago. And then they'll pick this up, that she would be safe in the living room where she was an hour ago. And they'll run it right on up. She'll be safe in the living room tomorrow. And Mama knows this. There's a certain feeling goes along with this with the preclear. He's pulling right on out of the universe.
Of course, joining somebody's other universe, having been overcome by somebody's universe, leads to an effort to protect. You see that? Now, as these universes, of course, are protected, the last thing to do with them of course is hide them. When it becomes impossible to protect them, you bide them. Well, that's where you come in. The hiding is not important. But, you could run a line like this on some guy who is very, very hard to nail down: "All right, now where arc there some places where Papa could hide?" We might vary the process because, remember, we're running Sub-zero Tone Scale on it. See? Something that was real hard to dig up and you were digging real hard, and he was slugging real hard, and it was all going haywire, why, you'd probably be able to find a place where Papa could hide. But ordinarily it would simply run out—that's the only variable I know—it would ordinarily run out and he would become stabilized and be able to withdraw to a large degree from that universe, just on this.
Well, sooner or later you're going to hit an awful sump of apathy. He's been getting along just perfectly beautifully—heh! He's been getting along fine, he's going along fine. "Mama would be safe here and Mama would be safe there and Mama would be safe in the chair, if she were in the chair, and... Nyaaaaoownnp." "What's the matter with you?" you say.
"Oh, I—I don't know, I just don't feel well."
And we get how the day after the tonsillectomy Mama decided that was a good time to strangle him, or something, you know, beat him up because he was being mean about the ice cream, or you know, some darn foolish incident that just got him. He was in a confused state and it just did—flip.
Well, of course, he can be in Mama's universe very easily because the body has been in Mama's universe facing the same way, which is the perfect duplication: prenatals. But that's the body's universe. So skip it. You're not trying to clear up the body's universe. Leave it alone. So Mama's universe, however, will show up for the thetan and show up for the body. It shows up for the body in prenatals. Thereby, running prenatals does an awful lot for the body's universe, believe me—a lot for the body's universe. But it does relatively little for the thetan's own universe, because he's never been in there. He picked it up at birth.
All right. That's an outrageous statement to be so bluntly made, that the thetan always picks the body up at birth. It doesn't always pick the body up at birth and that wasn't what I said. Sometime after birth— birth or after. They sometimes pick up the body at two. You find sometimes, occasionally, a thetan picked up a body at ten, five. Yeah. This could occur without much difficulty. But it's not before birth. And this is only backed up by a few thousand cases and observations so, of course, should be taken with a grain of salt.
Now, we have the problem of at least picking up one possible universe, which will start the thing going. Because the other universes will have a tendency to show up, and the more important ones will immediately appear. So routine procedure on this would be to pick up some terrifically light, even absurd universe, such as, "Where is the postman safe?" Somebody he's just talked with casually. Somebody he's not involved with. Take some preclear he's had, maybe, if you're processing an auditor. Or take some member of the family or something. Take a child of the family and just run it for a little while that way, and all of a sudden, why, he'll say, "You know, it isn't so important where Betsy is.
I keep worrying about Mama. Yeah, it's the problem of whether or not Mama is safe—now that's the problem." So you run Mama a little while, and you say, "Now we've got it. Now we've spotted it, hurrah, hurrah, yoicks, tallyho, and everything is going along fine and we're going to get him out of this universe and his sonic and visio will turn on."
And all of a sudden he says, "It's clams that seem to be the most upsetting. Clams seem to be very upsetting. Now why would I be worried about clams? Let's see, I had an uncle who ran a fish market once, but, I don't seem to get this..."
"Well, get some places where some clams are going to be safe" and...
Just a minute. You're in trouble right then. You're in trouble with your processing. You've got to start going awful easy. You just hit the genetic bank. And you got to take this thoroughly and you got to do it well and you got to push it right on through. Your preclear, as a thetan, has gotten his bank coincident with the body's bank in such a way as to get clams all involved.
Well, I'll tell you a very, very common one. A very common one is spiders. Another very, very common one is snakes. Terribly common. That's why Freud picked on snakes and said they were sexually significant. They aren't sexually significant. Snakes can kill! Maybe Freud didn't know this. And of course, they have overcome the determinism. Now, don't worry if you run into a few somatics. Spiders, same way. They can kill.
And you're liable to run into all kinds of oddities. Let's say he's stuck in the universes of snakes. This is quite routine, you run into this quite often. It's no sexual significance connected with it, except on the genetic line or on his own body line he has run into so many doggone snakes that have bit him and made nothing out of him so fast that he's begun to be afraid of snakes. And he's begun to be afraid of snakes to such a degree that he has been put into—by the snakes—a snake universe. See? There's where you get the other thing putting him in. Now he could have frightened something so bad that he went into its universe, too. But this isn't as aberrative as reverse.
Now we run him. "Where would the snakes be safe?" And we find out quite commonly the snake would be safe last month in another location. And he'll have to spot where a snake is. Well, finally he'll say, "Oh, that's easy, that snake's safe and I got that snake safe over there and I..."
If you don't say this—don't come talking to me about how tough a preclear is—if you don't chip in about this point after he's rattled on and all of a sudden begins to prattle merrily, if you don't chip in and say, "Now, how are you doing this?" Sweetly, kindly, with a knife up your sleeve. [laughter] Because he's probably just doing a mock-up of a snake and saying, "Well, that snake's safe and that snake's safe and that snake's..." He isn't getting places where snakes are safe. He mocks-up a snake that is safe and then says it'll be safe there because it's a safe snake. You'll always run into these figure-figures because you're running out thinking machines like mad. You'll be running with snakes, you'll be running the machine which thinks about and avoids snakes.
Male voice: You're running locations.
You're running locations and that's all you want to run. That's what you're bird-dogged to, all the time. Spots in space. Spots in space. Well, he's got his spots in space coincident with so many snakes' spots in space or so many spiders' spots in space or so many young men's spots in space or so many women's spots in space that he just can't get these darn things apart. Their universe is his universe, because all these spots in space are coincidents.
Well now, you're merrily and happily processing this preclear, let us say, on snakes and all of a sudden, crunch. Boy, he gets a somatic that runs up his right leg, the like of which you never saw before. He practically jumps off the bunk and... Mm-hm. He just got bit, mighty sudden and mighty savage, he did. Well, you have just at that moment hit the turning point of where we transfer universes. He has ceased to be in a snake's universe to the point where he can get bit. Hooray!
Immediately after this we're liable to run into some apathy. We're swapping universes and the bridge between universes is apathy resulting in conquest. You've got a conquest there and it put apathy into the preclear and triumph into somebody else. And so he became the winning valence, but there's always apathy on that bridge. Now you needn't worry about it and push the apathy around and that sort of thing.
Let's talk again about spiders or snakes or something like this. He's liable to get a bite—well, don't think it's this lifetime, let's not be naive—way back somewhere. You don't care where. It's not significant. You just go on with the same process. He's liable to feel like he's swelled up fit to bust. Go on with the same process. It'll run out. But the first thing you know, although you don't have to note the shift point—you really don't have to note it except just don't beat him to pieces—you'll find out that he is sliding over into his own universe. And what do you know! His memory starts to turn on, on the full track.
Now, you can even be this sneaky about this, but this is again evaluating too much for the preclear to tell him what to find safe places for. You should do a minimum of that—a minimum of picking up everything on the track. If you're going to do much of it, at least use an E-Meter. E-Meter: You do a little assessment on the case, find out what he can create and destroy and all of a sudden you get a terrific bang on spiders. Aha! Well, you just run it directly, "Give me some places where some spiders could be safe."
You would expect him to react this way: "Yes," he says, "I've always been terrified of spiders" and so forth. "Yes, a spider can be safe there. Dear, little spider." He's been terrified of spiders, but "Dear little spider can be safe there." And he'll worry about where the spiders are safe and all of a sudden he'll get up to a point of where the spiders—he's getting apathetic about spiders and then after that, shortly, he'll start, "There's a place where a spider isn't safe. Ha-ha-ha-ha!" And you're watching the evolution of the environment dangerous to the preclear, and the preclear becomes dangerous to the environment. You're watching self-determinism, with regard to these objects, materialize.
Self-determinism isn't a matter of proving how dangerous you are to the environment, but dangerousness to the environment is a low-level manifestation of it. An individual who does not believe himself dangerous to his environment, or who cannot believe himself dangerous to his environment, is not a well individual. Wherever he is not dangerous to his environment, he has coincided with, and been bested by, another universe. Wherever he is not dangerous to the environment, he has collided with another universe which has bested him.
Fellow says, "Well, I… I can't make nothing of that mountain out there. I'm sure not dangerous to that mountain. I couldn't do a thing to it." Well, that's just the physical universe. And people believe they can't do anything to the physical universe. So they don't do anything to the physical universe.
All right. What's the process? The process is relatively permissive, but it just runs on, just in this fashion: Now, take some friend of his. Where would this friend be safe, or not be safe? I beg your pardon, I said "not be safe" as though that's an auditing command. That's never an auditing command. He will announce places—you're not even looking for them—but he will announce places where his friend would not be safe. You ask him, as an auditing command, "Give me some places, now, where your friend would be safe" or "where your friend could be secure" or "where your friend would be all right," just to vary the patter. Or, "where your friend could hide" or "where your friend was safe in the past" or "where your friend could be safe in the past." And keep it right on the groove.
You're trying to find spots in space, but you're not even interested in what spots you find. You're not interested in him spotting a spot. This just runs out. It's lucky for you it does. It actually requires a minimum of sensibility on the part of the auditor beyond this: to know exactly what you're trying to do (you're trying to disentangle his universes) and not to push things off on him before he's ready to run them. And if you do it more or less as things turn up, you'll find the case runs faster and faster and faster and faster and faster and faster, and all of a sudden he's running the MEST universe. Just wham, wham, wham, spots blowing up all over the place. That is, they blow up, sort of, you see. I mean, you're liable to get explosions and things like that. Well, that's just what happened at the old spot. It's still the spot that's significant. The spot doesn't blow up, what it does is desensitize and no longer coincides. So his own universe can be that much bigger each time.
And your preclear will find himself getting bigger—himself getting bigger. He's liable to tell you after a while that, "Well, I'm—here I am," so forth; "I'm—the body is inside there." Well, he's all around the body, if a rough case. The body is inside his universe now. And after a while the physical universe gets inside his universe, just on this process and no other process.
Now, you could, actually, on a less permissive basis, as you went up the line, ask somebody where the last body he had would be safe. And you'll turn on that track, memory.
Okay. Anything you know about Beingness Processing here applies. All of a sudden, he—"Where would the snakes be safe?" "Oh, they'd be safe over there," a day before he's where he is. Now he's safe over there an hour before where he is. He's safe—oh, he's safe about an inch back of his head, when he was just about an inch behind where he is. Yeah, he's safe there. Oh, he's safe—he's safe about ten feet in front of him. He's safe, oh, he's safe—hell, he's safe for the next month. Don't feel spooky if your preclear seems to be running actual snakes. So what? I mean, he's sort of reaching out into the desert or someplace or another and running snakes. It kind of looks like this to him. Well, you're not worried about it. You've got coincidences in space there, so strong that they're in present time.
Well, you want all spots of the universe shifted into present time. If all the spots of the universe are in past time, naturally, he's not in present time. If all these spots where impacts have occurred are in the past—same result as Change of Space Processing. This is a variation—it's called Spot Processing, I guess. You just unlock these universes, just by unlocking their spots.
Now, you'll find out that—you can ask him, "What person did—you most detested?" You'll find out that maybe under older processes this individual has just been fighting like mad some sort of ideas concerning his former wife, or her former husband. You just find out that there just—every time they turn around there's something more and they've gotten to the point where they just don't want to tell an auditor about it anymore. It just keeps coming up and they just decided they can't do anything about it. The preclear doesn't seem to be getting any better. Auditor's been processing the former marital partner's universe. The answer to that is, "Where would (the former marital partner) be safe?" Places where—bang, bang bang. And the fellow says all of a sudden, "You know, there's some kind of a funny mass sitting out in front of my face out here and it seems to be disintegrating. I don't know quite what it's doing." You're not interested in what it's doing. Just some more spaces, some more spaces, until he's way into present time on the subject of this marital...
Now, maybe he had a father. All he does in processing, maybe, is complain to you about his father. His father this, his father that, his father something or other, yap-yap-yap. He's just sitting in his father's universe and he doesn't like it. So we get some places where Father could be safe. You say, "Well, he hates Father. He doesn't want to find anyplace where Papa is safe."
"Well, you find some places where Papa would be safe, will you, huh? If you don't mind?" He will—grudgingly, boringly. You see, he's on a sort of a false rage. He's on a false sort of a manic emotion, an inverted emotion. He's got to come clear up to fondly finding safe places for Papa, clear on up to being in complete apathy about Papa, up into being in his own universe, before he has any actual emotion of his own about Papa at all. See that? You're just running out emotions up to that point. That's an inversion.
In such a way we find his father, his mother, his grandparents—anybody who might have been an ally under First Book classification are liable to be universes in which he is enmeshed—anybody who has been an ally is a universe in which he's enmeshed.
If he can't exteriorize easily, he is certainly enmeshed with the body's universe. So you start asking him "Where would his body be safe." He'll eventually disentangle from it. And that is the way you exteriorize him.
But you can't get a guy finding out where his body would be safe when he isn't even in his body's universe. Let's get him there, first. Let's get him out of foreign, strange and peculiar universes, like Papa's and Mama's and snake's universe and fishes' universes and clams' universes and…
These, he is picking up from someplace. You can't quite tell where. It produces some sensation on the body and you say well, perforce, it must be the body's universe he's running. Probably isn't. He's probably picking it up somewhere else. Because the signal of him starting to run the body's universe is he just starts to exteriorize, as nice as you please. Well, that's the process, and that's the way you unlock these universes. It works.
Now, sometime in desperation you might say to the preclear, "All right, give me some places where you can't be." (I did here one day as a gag.) Brother, stand by for the somatic wagon—you'll practically kill him. It'll run out the other way. But you're asking him to make determinations elsewhere.
Now, every time we turn around in Scientology, somebody is asking: "Why can't you simply change the postulate and everything clear up, boom!" Continually this question is asked. It's like—if it were a phonograph record it would now be worn one foot deep. Okay, phonograph records aren't that wide—well, they're inverted. They got inverted on that question. It started out in the old days with people saying, "Self-determinism—so all we've got to do is decide you're self-determined and you are!" Well, doggone it, you be in Mama's universe sometime and decide you're self-determined while you're being Mama's universe and then get Clear, huh?
All right. Now, a person had to assume a condition existed before it could happen. But after he assumed it existed, he assumed he was in somebody else's universe and since that time has been running somebody else's universe. Where is this condition where he's assumed? It's over in another universe. He's not even touching it in processing so, of course, he can't shoot his postulates.
So this is how you eventually straighten out postulates and this is why postulates are all entangled. Because the postulates lie in different universes, in different periods of time. Well, that's all you need to know about this process for now.
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