Opening Procedure of 8-D - Demonstration (parts one and two) (7ACC 540625)
Series: 7th Advanced Clinical Course (7ACC)
Date: 25 June 1954
Speaker: L. Ron Hubbard
Want to give you now a pattern of commands on an auditing session. And we start an auditing session in this fashion: we have a preclear and we have a place to audit him in. Now, many people get so scarce on preclears they start to audit themselves. And if you think I'm kidding you, this happens to be the truth (the truth revealed at last) back of self-auditing. There aren't enough people to help, so people start helping themselves. And that's a basic, basic fact.
Now, having gotten a preclear and a place to audit him, such as a coffee shop or a service station or something like that, we start a two-way conversation. In coffee shops it generally goes this way: "What are you wearing glasses for?" Or something on that order.
But in an auditing chair it would be, possibly, "How are you today?" or some such very, very clever entrance point. And the fellow says, "I'm fine." And conversation lapses at that moment.
And then you say, "Well, let's get down to business."
And he says, "Fine."
And you say, "Well now, let's talk about something here. Supposed to talk about something at this point."
And he says, "Okay. That's fine. Let's talk about something."
You begin to suspect at that time that you're dealing with somebody who is not exactly impetuous where communication is concerned. And so you say, "Well, would you like to talk about any current problems you're having or anything like that?"
"No," he says, "life's fine."
And you say, "Well, let's recall something real."
That was the end of that conversation! [laughter]
Well, after he's forgotten the command four or five times and you have obligingly supplied him with the command, so forth, he does opine as how it may seem to him—not to be too positive about this thing, you understand—but it just seems to him, possibly, that, well, he remembers a time, well, that was real.
"What time was real?" you say.
"Well, that time." "Which time was real? What did you recall that seemed very real to you?" you say, very professionally.
And he says, "I don't know. And I've forgotten." [laughter] And so your session continues in an even, normal fashion.
Now, having asked this question several times, you understand, till you've gotten some of this comm lag flattened out of it, you then should assume that this individual doesn't want to be the effect of his bank, of the room, of you or anything. But he's there because he kind of couldn't help himself. He had a voice that said he should come to you or something.
And you begin with 8-C Part (a), which is the point we come to. Now, I'm going to take some luckless individual here, such as Joyce, and I'm just going to ask her to go through some of these commands as we go through them. Okay, Joyce, would you mind doing that?
PC: Not at all.
LRH: [to audience] Now you see this point?
[to pc] Nope, nope, this is all walking stuff.
[to audience] The amount of sitting around you do these days in Scientology is very poor. Actually, you know what has really happened here? Overt-motivator sequence has taken place where the auditor lies down now and the preclear walks around. [laughter]
[to pc] Okay, Joyce. Now you see the corner of the desk there?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Well, why don't you walk over to it and touch it.
Good. Good. And now the other corner of the desk over there. Why don't you walk over to that and touch that. Okay?
Now how about the center of the desk. You see that there, center of the desk here? Why don't you walk over to that and touch that.
Okay. And now why don't you find the midpoint on this line here on the curtain here and walk over and touch that.
Okay. And now the center of the door over there. Why don't you walk over that.
Okay. Now locate the back of the chair you were sitting in and walk over to it and touch it.
Now locate the center of the seat of the chair and touch it.
And the center of this desk again and touch it.
And the back of the chair again and touch it.
Okay. You can let go of that now. All right.
Now, that is Part (a). That's actually all there is to Part (a). You understand it—we are not teaching an exactitude of English. The motive here, the goal of the process is what is important.
And however you have to convey this to the individual, you want him to one, see the place you indicate and go over to it and touch it. And see the place you indicate and go over to it and touch it. That's the goal of that process.
All right. Now, let's go on to Step (b). And Step (b) could be run in this fashion.
LRH: How about you locating a place somewhere in the immediate environment here?
PC: All right.
LRH: Okay. Walk over to it and touch it.
Good. Let's let go of that. Now find another place.
PC: All right.
LRH: Okay. And walk over to it and touch that. Got it?
All right. Let go of that. And let's locate another place.
PC: All right.
LRH: And walk over to it and touch it.
Okay. Now, let's locate another place.
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: Walk over to it and touch it. Got that real good?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Okay. How real is that spot to you?
PC: Very real.
LRH: That's quite real, huh? All right. Let's select another spot. Let go of that one. Select another spot. Walk over to it and touch it, Did you touch the spot you selected first?
PC: No, I couldn't reach it.
LRH: Well, that was a remarkable oversight, wasn't it? [laughter] All right, let's do that. Let's just get up there and touch it, just like that.
PC: Seeing things…
LRH: Was that the spot?
PC: I think so.
LRH: You think so. Are you sure?
PC: No, honestly I'm not.
LRH: All right. Let go of that spot and go back to the point where you were before. Now, let's select a spot.
PC: You want me to locate the same spot I had?
LRH: I don't care. Whichever you seem to want to do. This is very permissive. We're letting you locate spots.
PC: Mm-hm. All right.
LRH: Got it? Walk over to it and touch it. And how about you not walking over to it until I ask you to, huh? How about that now?
PC: All right.
LRH: All right. Let's do that one again. Now, locate that spot again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Now walk over to it and touch it.
PC: Uh-huh.
That wasn't the same spot.
LRH: That's correct, isn't it? It wasn't the same spot. All right. Let's go through this all again. Over there. Let's pick out this spot now. Complete this cycle.
PC: All right.
LRH: All right. Now let's walk over to it and touch it. Was that it?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: You think so.
PC: I think TO.
LRH: All right. Good.
Okay. Let go of it. Find a new spot.
PC: All right.
LRH: All right. Walk over to it and touch it.
All right. Let go of it.
Find a new spot.
Walk over to it and touch it. Got it real good there?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Let go of it. Find a new spot.
PC: All right.
LRH: Walk over to it and touch it. All right. Let go of it.
That's all there is to Part (b) of 8-C's Opening Procedure and its approximate type of command that would be used on that. Again, it is not the English which you are using. It is not the English. The motive is for the preclear to be permitted by the auditor to select a spot, generally on the surface or an object in the area and go over to it and touch it on command, each command being necessary before the preclear does anything.
And the reason why I introduced an auditor communication lag consciously into that processing is because our preclear jumped the gun twice. In other words, she started to go before she was asked to go. She let go of things very early before she was told to let go and so forth. In other words, each one of these done on command. Precision here is the goal.
Now, a good, sloppy way to do it would be: You say to the preclear, "Look around and find a spot. Okay. You got that. Well, okay." Preclear has gone over to it, touched it and let go. "Well, let's see, now. Oh, you got another spot located." The preclear has already touched it and let go. I mean, this has nothing to do with auditing commands.
Now, what you're trying to do is get them into some kind of a condition whereby they get the idea of precision. Now, if you as an auditor are not precise about the commands which you are giving—we're not studying English, you understand—but if you're not precise about the command and their execution, you will get in trouble. And it will do your preclear no good at all.
He all of a sudden gets the idea, "I'm running this guy—he isn't running me." And that'll be the end of that auditing session.
So all right. Now, let's take up, in its simple form, Part (c).
LRH: Okay, Joyce?
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: All right. Now, let's look around and find a spot. Find a place there.
PC: All right.
LRH: Okay. Let's walk over to it and touch it. Got that?
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: All right. Let go of it. Now, make up your mind when you're going to touch it it.
Make up your mind when you're going to let go and let go.
Okay. Find a new spot.
Good. Walk over to it.
All right. Now, make up your mind when you're going to touch it and touch it.
Good. Make up your mind when you're going to let go of it and let go.
Good. Make up your mind when you're going to touch it and touch it. Same spot.
Make up your mind when you're going to let go of it and let go.
Good. Find a new spot.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Decide when you're going to move over to it and touch it.
All right. Decide when to let go and let go.
Good. Decide when you're going to touch it and touch it.
Decide when you're going to let go of it and let go.
Who's making the decision there?
PC: I am.
LRH: Good. You know you're making it? You're certain of that?
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: You are making the decision. Well, that's fine. Find another spot. Got it?
PC: All right.
LRH: All right. Walk over to it.
Make up your mind when you're going to touch it and touch it.
And when you're going to let go of it and let go.
Okay. Who let go?
PC: I did.
LRH: You sure of that?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Pick out another spot.
PC: All right.
LRH: Okay. Move over to it. Make up your mind when you're going to touch it and when you're going to let go and do so.
Good. All right. That's good.
In a condensed form, that is the gradient scale of complexities of the commands in (c). Now, the whole point here, though—the whole point of this is permitting the preclear to select and to decide when; but a velvet glove in a mailed fist, making sure that what commands the auditor does give are executed when the auditor says and no sooner. You see that?
We are just turning loose the preclear, little by little. At first, boy, we had him in leg irons and a straitjacket. And then we took off the leg irons and then we took off the straitjacket and we found out he could work along in this fashion now.
And the main goal of all the procedures is, of course, to find out who is doing it. That's the main goal of the procedures, in case you have never run a preclear who had this trouble. Find out exactly who made the decision.
So that an awful lot of dunnage, as we call it, can be thrown in on this process. Now, I've shown it to you in its pure form. Now, let me show you some of the things that can be done with Opening Procedure of 8-C. Okay? Hm?
LRH: All right. Find a spot, out in space if you want.
PC: On top of things?
LRH: Yeah.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Is it there?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Good. Where are you?
PC: I am here.
LRH: Good. Is that where you are?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Where's that spot?
PC: It's over there.
LRH: Mm-hm. Are you certain it's over there?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Are you where you are?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Is there any picture out there?
PC: Nope.
LRH: Nothing.
PC: It's mere location.
LRH: It's just a location. Well, that's fine. Skip that one. Now let's find a spot on an object or something of the sort. Got one?
PC: Fine.
LRH: Got one real good?
PC: Mm-hm.
I-RI-I: Okay. You still got it?
PC: Mm-bm.
LRH: Is it still there?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: You certain it's still there?
PC: Sure.
LRH: Has it moved?
PC: No.
LRH: Is there any other mass there besides just the spot that's there?
PC: Well, there's the object.
LRH: What is the spot?
PC: It's just a location.
LRH: Well, how far away is it?
PC: It's beyond my reach.
LRH: It is?
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: Is it beyond your reach?
PC: Well, it's farther than my hand can reach right now.
LRH: Well, what reach is it beyond?
PC: Well, it's beyond the reach of my physical hand.
LRH: Aha, it's beyond the body's reach.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Oh well, let's not be sloppy about this. Let's be precise.
Okay. You know where that spot is now?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Go over to it and touch it.
Good. You got it there?
All right. Let go of it and touch it again.
Okay. Let go of it and touch it again.
Okay. Let go of it and touch it again.
Okay. Let go of it and touch it again.
Let go of it.
Touch it again.
Let go of it.
Touch it.
Let go of it.
Touch it.
Let go of it.
Touch it.
Let go of it.
Good. Good. What are you touching there? You've just let go of it. What are you holding there? You got something out in front of it?
PC: No. I was just waiting for you to tell me to touch it.
LRH: Oh. You thought you could anticipate this whole thing, huh?
PC: Maybe.
LRH: Why, my goodness. My goodness. That isn't what we're doing here.
All right. Now how about you finding a spot on the floor, hm? Got it? Got a spot on the floor?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Put your body in it. On top of it, rather. Got that? Find another spot on the floor.
PC: All right.
LRH: Put your body on top of that.
Another spot.
Find another spot.
PC: I found it!
LRH: Oh, you've got it. Well, where you going? Anybody say anything about going around here?
PC: Nope. I don't.
LRH: Nobody even mentioned it, did they?
PC: Nope.
LRH: All right. Let's move the body over on top of that spot. You got that?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: What you standing on?
PC: Spot?
LRH: That's correct. You aren't standing on the floor, you're standing on a spot, isn't that right? Is that correct?
PC: Mm.
LRH: All right. Now how do you feel about that spot you're standing on?
PC: Just a location.
LRH: It's just a location. Well, let's get the piece of floor it represents there. Could you own that piece of floor?
PC: Sure. Because I'm on it.
LRH: Okay. Now let's spot one that you're not on that you could own.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Got it? All right. Move over on top of that one.
Okay. Good. Now let's pick out another spot.
PC: All right.
LRH: Can you own that?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Move your body over on top of that one.
Good. Good. Good. Pick up your pocketbook there. Got it there?
Okay. Put it on this side of the desk.
Fine. You got it there?
All right. Now let's move it over to the other side of the desk.
Good. Let's move it on top of that ashtray.
Good. Let's move it on top of the pencil box.
Fine. Now let's pick out a new place to move it to—Step (b)—and move it.
Good. Pick out a new place to move it to and move it.
Good. New place to move it to and move it.
You own that?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Is that yours? Is it yours because it's a pocketbook or is it yours?
PC: It's mine because I said it.
LRH: Are the contents yours?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Do you own them?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: You sure? All right. Find another spot to move it to. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
PC: Uh-oh.
LRH: Find another spot to move it to.
PC: Yes. I found it.
LRH: Ha! When it was yours you got awfully self-determined, didn't you? [laughter] Is that right?
PC: Well, I knew it war mine all the time.
LRH: Yeah, but you got awfully self-determined, didn't you?
PC: I anticipated the next command. That was all,
LRH: That was all that happened. Well, good. Good. Now, got that new spot picked out?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Now let's move the pocketbook over to that.
Good. Now let's pick out another spot.
PC: All right.
LRH: Decide when you're going to move the pocketbook to it and move it there. Okay? Hands got nothing to do with it. You just move the pocketbook there. Now, let's decide when you're going to move the pocketbook away and move it away. No new place to move it to, just pick out when you're going to move it away and move it away. Good. Now let's find a place to put it down and then decide when you're going to put it down.
Good. Now decide when you're going to pick it up and pick it up.
Okay.
[to audience] Just a variation. Variation using an object. Variation using the body, variation using an object. The essence here is not duplication.
I will show you now what you could do in this, the second that we ran it over into duplication.
[to pc] Okay. Put your pocketbook back down.
All right. Now, get that spot you're standing on right there. You got that spot?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Got that spot real good? All right. Fix your body there. Is it fixed there? All right. Pick out a new spot.
PC: All right.
LRH: Now unfix your body where it is and move it over to that new spot.
Now fix it there.
All right. Unfix it there, come back to the first spot and fix it in the first spot.
PC: First spot.
LRH: Hm. Didn't locate it first, did you?
PC: Just where you said.
LRH: Well, all right. Just assume that spot. Fix your body there.
PC: Um-hum.
LRH: Hm? Okay. Now, that second spot you've located over there, unfix your body where it is and move it over to that spot.
Well, good. Now fix your body in that spot.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now unfix it there and move it back to the first spot. Got that?
All right. Fix it there.
All right. Unfix it there, move it back to the second spot.
Okay, fix it there.
Now, unfix it there and move it back to the first spot. You getting that? How does that seem to you? Anything taking place as you do that process?
PC: Well, it seems different somehow.
LRH: Seems different. All right. Well, fix your body right where it is there now. Got it?
All right, unfix it there and move it to the second spot.
Fix it there.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now, unfix it and move it to the first spot.
Good. Now, let's fix it there real good.
Now, let's unfix it there and move it to the second spot.
Fix your body there.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now, unfix it. And that's all we're going to do on that particular process.
Okay. That's just a duplication done with the body.
Now, let's come over and pick up this pocketbook. You got it in a space there?
I mean, on the desk there? Hm?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Got it there real good? Now, pick out a second place on the desk and move it to there.
Good. Now, fix it in that new place.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now unfix it there and move it back to the first place.
That's good. Fix it in that place now.
Now unfix it there and move it to the second place. Fix it there.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now unfix it there and move it to the first place. Okay. Fix it there. Got it fixed?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now fix it forever.
PC: All right,
LRH: All right. Now unfix it there. Change your mind. Unfix it there, put it back in the second place. Fix it there.
PC: Okay.
LRH: All right. Now unfix it there and move it back to the first place.
PC: All right.
LRH: Fix it there. Now unfix it there and move it to the second place.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: How does that seem doing that?
PC: Well now, it seems like you're getting an ability to change your mind about a thing…
LRH: That's right.
PC: ...being set there permanently or not.
LRH: That's right.
[to audience] Another variation and a very, very useful one using an object instead of the body. Got it?
[to pc] Now which was best? The object or the body?
PC: Well, the body seemed a little more uncommon.
LRH: Mm-hm. Okay. That's right. It would.
All right. Now if you don't mind, we will go right on through into the next procedure on that. Is that okay with you?
PC: Sure.
LRH: All right. Next procedure: Spot a spot in space.
Where is it?
Go over and put your finger on it.
Hold it there with the other finger.
Let go of it with the first finger.
Hold on to it with the second one that you just took away.
Let go of it with the first.
That's right. Now, you got that spot?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Let go of it entirely. Is it still there?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: What is there?
PC: A location.
LRH: It's a location. Any mass in it?
PC: No.
LRH: No mass in it?
PC: No.
LRH: No energy in it?
PC: No.
LRH: Is it blue?
PC: No, no color.
LRH: What color is it? That's the tricky one to use...
PC: It isn 't any color,
LRH: It isn't any color at all. All right. That's the proper answer. You got that spot real good, though.
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Well, fine. Fine. Now let's locate another spot.
PC: Okay.
LRH: You got that spot?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Put your finger on it.
Let go of it. Is it still there?
Now, do you have to keep it there by looking at it?
PC: No.
LRH: No? All right. Look at me. Now, look back and find the spot again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Same spot?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Are you sure it's the same spot?
PC: Why, I feel it is.
LRH: All right.
PC: Yes, it is.
LRH: Now look away from the spot and look at me.
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Is the spot still there without looking at it with your body's eyes?
PC: Yes.
LRH: It is?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Look back and find it. Still got it there?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Still got that spot?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: You sure it's there?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Is it a location?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Would it still be there if the walls were gone?
PC: Yes.
LRH: It would?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Well, fine. Fine. All right. Let's locate another spot.
PC: Hmmm. Let's see, it definitely giver me direction. Okay.
LRH: Okay. Got that real good?
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: All right. Mock-up an acceptable body.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Push it into yours.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Another one.
Another one. Another one.
Another one. Do that easily?
Okay. Well, let that finish it for the moment. That's 8-D in its purity. Would you sit down?
PC: Okay
LRH: Well, okay.
Now, let's continue with this demonstration. And there you saw an example of 8-D in its purity. Now, that's very simple, isn't it? That's terribly simple. You'll be surprised how many preclears fall on their faces—crash!—with that process. Just crash! You ask them to spot the same spot eight consecutive times and they've got eight different spots.
They have to tell you they can't spot that spot without locating it in relationship to the walls. They tell you all sorts of things. You get into the darnedest arguments. That's because you have a spatial intolerance.
Here you have an individual—when you get an argument of that character—you get an individual who is so convinced he is a somethingness and is so overbalanced into the direction of somethingness that he cannot tolerate a nothingness.
Now, the Communication Formula is C, Distance, E. The particle or impulse which goes through must duplicate in order to make a perfect communication. Therefore, we have a thetan communicating with a nothingness with great ease. And we have a mass communicating with a nothingness with very, very poor ease. It disintegrates if it continues to communicate with a nothingness.
And you'll see some of these boys (these hard cases, these Resistive V's and that sort of thing), who are so convinced that they're massive and that they're a body and all that sort of thing, you'll find them spotting a spot in space just so long and then they get sick. Why do they get sick? Well, they get sick because they're being asked to communicate with a nothingness. See that?
Now, let's take the Prelogics. The Prelogics are that "Theta locates objects and energy in time and space." Another Prelogic, of course "Theta can create energy and objects and create space and time in which to locate them."
And another Prelogic, of course, should be that "Theta can destroy space, energy, objects and time." Now, the only thing that gets wrong is a thetan decides to destroy something and then doesn't. You know, doesn't really change his mind about it all. He decides to destroy something and then he doesn't.
Or he decides to create something and then, having created it and having put a postulate in it that it must survive forever (you know, resist all effects forever—time—he creates time right there when he says resist all effects) his next step is, of course, "Now I'm going to destroy it," without changing his mind about having created it.
How does he destroy it? All he has to do is uncreate it by changing his mind. He doesn't do that. He gets some energy and starts blowing it to pieces. Naturally, he loses. After a while he says, "You know, I'm not powerful anymore. I can't destroy things."
Series of postulates in which he himself has called himself a liar, that's all—he's made himself wrong. Then he gets into a cherished and sacred agreement with another thetan that such and such is going to exist. And having made this as an agreement, it exists, all right. But then he can't find the other thetan to disagree on this thing that it exists and so it exists and so he decides he's going to blow it up. And now he can't because it depends on the other fellow's agreement.
And he forgets that it was his agreement to agree with the other fellow which made it depend on that in the first place. You see how that is? In other words, he makes postulates and then cross-postulates.
The only thing that gets wrong with machinery: he makes a machine to do something and then he makes another machine to nullify the first machine and he's got two machines now. And boy, is that a fight! All right.
Now, getting that as a very firm grasp, these Prelogics—you know, "theta locates things in time and space"—let's go about this and see that, just with Opening Procedure, you're walking right straight into one of the principal abilities of the individual.
And he finally finds out that he can on his own decision locate things in time and space. And gradually he develops this.
Now, there are a great many variations which could be given to this procedure, each one of them possibly with some value, as long as they include this factor: he's locating something in time and space. See, as long as they included that factor, they have value.
And therefore you can get quite wide with this as long as you remember that decisions, commands, location, time and space—that's what the anatomy of Opening Procedure consists of, you see. Commands. Decisions. Time. Space. That's what it consists of.
It therefore is really a little bit below considerations, but these considerations to locate things in time and space are what got him in trouble because he immediately afterwards decided he was going to violate them without undoing his own consideration. He makes his own consideration very set, you see, and then he won't change his mind about it. All right. So he gets into trouble.
He tries to work with energy. Having made up his mind to something, he now tries to work with energy to undo it, see, alter it. He gets in there with energy. And you get the control case, who believes that the only thing he can possibly do is control with energy. He can start, stop and change. That's the anatomy of control: starting, stopping and changing. All right.
Supposing we took this whole array and we put together a procedure, just out of whole cloth. It might run something on this order—might run something on this order.
LRH: We'll make you a guinea pig this time if it's all right with you.
Now, let's walk over from where you are now to the wall, noticing the whole way that nothing is stopping you.
PC: Now?
LRH: Just walk over. Go ahead.
Anything stop you on the way?
PC: Not a thing.
LRH: All right. Now let's walk over here to the window, noticing all the way that nothing is stopping you.
Good. Anything stop you?
PC: Not a thing
LRH: All right. Now let's walk over to the wall again, noticing the whole distance that nothing is stopping you.
Okay. Anything stop you?
All right. Are you getting a sensation of something stopping you?
PC: Not a bit.
LRH: All right. That's fine. Now let's walk over to the window again, noticing all the way that nothing is stopping you.
Good. Now let's walk over to the wall again, noticing all the way that nothing is stopping you.
Now, did you really notice nothing stopped you?
PC: I did.
LRH: Or have you already assumed that nothing could stop you and so you're running on that assumption? Which are you doing?
PC: Oh, I knew nothing is stopping me.
LRH: You knew nothing would stop you? Or…
PC: I knew that, too.
LRH: You knew that, too. Well, let's just throw that one by the boards now and let's just walk over to the window, noticing repetitively, every second of the line, "Look, nothing's stopping me."
PC: Nothing's Stopping me.
LRH: Okay. Did you notice that all the way over? Well, let's do that again. Let's walk over to the wall and notice that.
Good.
PC: Nothing's stopping me.
LRH: All right. All right. Did you get any sensation doing that?
PC: Cool breeze coming from here.
LRH: Well, you got an exterior sensation.
We don't have one present. But if you were to do that with—I didn't pick this for any other reason; just showing you a process here—if you were to do that with somebody who was pretty spinny, they would walk across the floor in the most diffident possible way—somebody who was having a bad time.
And if you were to ask them to mock-up a wall in front of them, they would just stand right there in front of the wall. The wall would be more solid, you see, than they could possibly go through. And you wouldn't have them then, by the way, walk through the wall. This makes them invalidate their own postulate, which is just what I was talking to you about. You'd have them make the wall thin enough so that they could squeeze through it. And if you were processing in a sanitarium, you would see some of the most interesting squirmings as they went through that mock-up wall. See? Just fascinating.
Well now, that's the process.
LRH: Now let's pick out—walk this way about three feet.
Now, you got a spot there in space? Now, I mean in space, right about where your chest is?
PC: Yes.
LRH: You got a spot right there? All right. Do you have any psychosomatic aches or pains or anything?
PC: No.
LRH: You don't have. It's unfortunate. [chuckling] I tell you what let's do. I'll give you this. You realize that this would be devoted to a psychosomatic ill. Fellow has asthma or something, you would do this with him. You'd have him fix his asthma there.
But instead of that, we're going to have you fix your eyeballs, right there in that spot in space. You got them there? Well, fix them there. They're rolling around.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Fix them there now, real good.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now unfix them there.
Good. Good. Now, let's find another spot over here in space, right in front of you over here and walk over to it. Walk over to it.
You got it real good?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Are your eyes in that spot now or in the vicinity of that spot?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Huh?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Fix them there.
PC: They're fixed.
LRH: Good. Unfix them there.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Now let's walk back over to that first spot where we were.
Good. Now let's fix your eyes right there. Is that the same spot?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Now let's fix your eyes right there in that spot. Fix them there real good.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now unfix them.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Something happen?
PC: I was unfixing them.
LRH: Oh, okay. Okay.
[to audience] He unfixed them.
[to pc] All right. Now, let's move over here to this second spot.
Got your eyes in that area now?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Fix them there.
PC: All right.
LRH: Okay. Unfix them.
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Now let's look back over here and let's find two spots which are just as wide apart as your eyes. spots over here, very precisely, see. Now, let's get more precise about this. Got those two spots? Now walk over there and put your eyes in those two spots. Got them?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Fix them there.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Okay. Unfix them.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Okay. Now turn around and find over here two spots same distance apart as your eyes. Find that out real accurately.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Got them?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Now walk over to those two spots and put your eyes in them. Okay. Now fix your eyes there.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Okay. Unfix them there.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Fix them there again.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Unfix them.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Okay. Now let's look back over here at these two spots we had before. You got them over there? Now take your—get this now, get this wording—take your eyes over there and fix them into those two spots.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Go ahead. Take them over there.
Yeah, that's right. What did you do, mock-up two?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Well, that's not what we want. You got your eyes in those spots now?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Fix them there.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Now unfix them.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Now look back over here, any of these two spots still here? Over here?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Now let's take your eyes over to these two spots and fix them there. Just take them over there first. Now fix them there.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Now unfix them there.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Okay. You got that? All right, let that be the end of that particular process. Okay. Unfix them. Good. Thank you.
Now, I want to show you something there: that we didn't have a preclear with a psychosomatic ill. But if he'd had one, you'd seen fireworks. Make them walk back and forth to these two spots and fix and unfix this psychosomatic illness. Guy has got asthma. Just like we used eyes there, see. We could fix his lungs or his breathing apparatus or his asthma in that spot. And then unfix it.
Now, there's another way to do it. 8-C. That's a duplication. 8-C: You just have them spot various spots in the room, walk over to it, fix it there, pick out a new spot and unfix it there and fix it in the new spot and so forth. And finally have him walk away and leave it in one of these spots. He'll get one of the best mock-ups he ever got whether he loses it immediately or not. He'll get a real good mock-up.
And if he doesn't lose it immediately, if it's still troubling him, you could go on and do that. You could handle a common cold this way. This is real peculiar as phenomena, real peculiar.
LRH: Now, did you get an ache or a pain in your eyes as you did that? Anything occur? Your eyesight normally, though, is pretty good, isn't it?
PC: I guess so. I'd say so.
LRH: Yeah, all right.
Well, that's the difference. You take somebody with glasses, you might not quite notice that same effect.
Now, when you use duplication it shows you immediately this one fact: The fellow is doing it over and over and over and over and this is one of the methods of duplicating. See, that is duplication. You do it again and again and again. That is, you go through the same action again and again and again. Now, that's one method of using it.
LRH: Mind if I process you some more here just a moment?
All right. Now, let's pick a spot here, right there. Yeah, right there. You got it?
Got it real good? Now move your body into it.
Your body in it?
PC: Right.
LRH: All right. Move your body back and forth. Now come forward a little bit. Now, just rock your body back and forth a little bit. What's happened to that spot?
PC: It's inside of me.
LRH: Yeah well, what's happening to it as you move back and forth?
PC: It's staying here.
LRH: Oh, it's staying there. Well, that's good. That's good. Move your body into that spot again. You got it now?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Is it still staying there?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Get that spot now and put your body into it. Got your spot? It's there now?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Appear.
PC: What?
LRH: Just appear. Get the idea of appearing in that spot.
PC: I'm there.
LRH: Got the idea of appearing right where you are now?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Find another location about four feet in front of you there. Don't go yet. This is Opening Procedure, you know—same laws apply. Got that spot right in front of you?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: All right. Now, let's disappear where you are and walk over to that spot. Get the idea of disappearing?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Now, walk over to that four-foot-away spot.
Got that?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Is your body there?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Okay. Appear there.
PC: I'm here.
LRH: Good. Now, disappear there and walk back to this first spot.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Good. Walk back to this first spot now. In that first spot?
PC: Here, yes.
LRH: Okay. Good. Appear. Get the idea of appearing.
PC: I did.
LRH: Okay. Now get the idea of disappearing.
PC: Over here. Yes.
LRH: Now you get the idea of disappearing right where you are, right there? Right where you are? Get the idea of disappearing.
PC: I don 't quite get it.
LRH: Ahhh. Let's see if you can get the idea of disappearing right where you are.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Get that? You got the idea of disappearing?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: You got that real good?
All right. Now, just walk back to the other spot there.
You there?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Now decide to appear.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Okay. Now decide to disappear.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Good. Now let's pick this first spot over here again. Move over to it. You got that spot there now?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Decide to appear there.
PC: I'm here.
LRH: Good. Now disappear there.
What's happening as you do that?
PC: I'm trying to disappear and can't. I'm still here.
LRH: Hm, still there, huh? Well, all right. Just say you did, for the moment. And now take your body over to that spot in front of you there four feet away.
Take your body over there now.
Got your body there?
PC: Right.
LRH: Now you disappear.
PC: Yes.
LRH: You can do that?
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Now you appear.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Now you disappear.
PC: Yes.
LRH: All right. Now, let's get this first spot back here and take your body back to it. Now get the idea of taking your body back to it now.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Got that real good?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Hm?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Now you appear.
PC: I'm appeared.
LRH: All right. Now you disappear.
PC: Yes. Mm-hm.
LRH: Oh, you can get that now?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Well, good. Now let's take your body back to that other spot, four feet in front of you there.
Got it there?
PC: Right.
LRH: Now you appear.
PC: I'm here.
LRH: Good. Now you disappear.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Good. Now, lug your body back to this first spot and fix it in that first spot.
PC: Yes.
LRH: Got it there now? All right. You appear.
PC: I'm here.
LRH: All right. Now you disappear.
PC: Yes.
LRH: What happens as you try that?
PC: I seem to lose everything in here.
LRH: Is that so? Oh, well…
PC: It kind of disappears. I guess that's it.
LRH: Well, all right. All right. Okay. All right. Well, this is just a demonstration. Now let's do something to even this up, though. You feel strange in any way?
PC: No, no.
LRH: You don't.
PC: Feel fine.
LRH: All right. Now how about you finding the floor. Good. Is that floor real?
PC: Yes, very much so.
LRH: Good. Now, is it solid, real solid?
PC: Yes, very solid.
LRH: Solid. Is there any bounce to it?
PC: No bounce at all.
LRH: Okay. That's good. Thank you.
PC: You bet.
LRH: Thank you.
There's only one thing you want to watch about that process, is it rips up havingness the like of which you never saw it in your life, see? So you keep your eye on your preclear and if he complains to you about feeling sick—which he didn't (you didn't), why, you just carry on, see. With remedying havingness you're trying to do several things, but the main thing you're trying to do is monitor the fact you don't want your preclear to go and get sick at his stomach and so forth. What happens is you upset the stomach GE, which runs on something (exclamation point)! See?
And if you can get away with spotting fifty, sixty spots without remedying any havingness, fine! Because what you're trying to do is spot spots with exteriorization techniques. That's what we're working toward. If you were just trying to patch somebody up, see, you could remedy havingness like mad and as a body they'd patch up and that would be fine, you see?
But exteriorization—it's a little bit different subject. We're not processing the body with exteriorization. We're processing a thetan, see? And in view of that, the more spots you can spot without getting any masses or energy around, why, the happier he'll be, really.
See, a thetan is neither something nor nothing but can be either. But in his most healthy state, he doesn't happen to have much mass. And in view of that he communicates with great ease with nothing and a body can't. So if you run these types of techniques toward spotting space, which is the primary goal of 8-D Opening Procedure, you can just spot space spots, you see. And then remedy havingness enough to keep the body alive, you know, and breathing and so forth. If you can just spot space spots, you will get an exteriorization if you keep it up.
You can't help but get an exteriorization, because your thetan is communicating continually with spots. Now, we could have emphasized—as he moved back and forth a little bit more here—about the spot and made him see the spot and we could have worked with the spot a little bit more to demonstrate the emptiness of this spot. And we got him appearing and disappearing, you see.
LRH: Do you feel that I left you up in the air with that process?
PC: No!
LRH: No. You feel…
PC: No. I don't notice any difference. Why? Do I look different?
LRH: No, no, no. Just wanted to make sure. Just wanted to make sure. All right.
Now of course, one of the big puzzles for a thetan in this universe is this insistence on everybody on something appearing. And this dislike everybody has for things which disappear. Nobody likes things to disappear, you know. Somebody dies and gets buried. Well, that's a disappearance. You lose something. That's a disappearance. Loss is disappearance of things.
And a thetan could be there in a perfectly good, massive mock-up and then all of a sudden disappear. People don't like this! You're out someplace in space, building a whole bunch of beautiful mock-ups and having yourself a good time and all of a sudden this horrible face appears. And you want it to disappear and it won't.
So the problems of appearance and disappearance are central problems to a thetan. Appearance and disappearance. It's just as ancient magic has brought forward to us the prestidigitation they magically make something appear and disappear in the palm of their hand or something like this. That is magic, carrying forward one of the oldest operations on the track which is appear-disappear. Of course, unless you appear you're not going to get any attention.
And after you've gotten attention, such as ah-ah-ah-ah, you say, "Why did I appear? and it's probably best at this moment that I disappear." And so you do.
A DEI cycle is composed solely of this: A desire to have some communication (Attention, Cause and Effect, you see) followed by an enforcement that you sure as heck better have some attention, see. They're going to enforce some attention on you. "We're going to look you over," you know. And some attention is forced.
And then, after enforced attention, "I don't want any. I don't want any attention. I want to disappear now," see? And so the DEI cycle is the appear-disappear cycle. And that's the problem of the GE: the GE has appeared.
And the thetan wishes to appear in a secondhand fashion, you see, via the GE. He's leery, ordinarily, of doing it himself, so he goes and finds some thetan that has appeared and can't disappear.
The amount of pain connected with dying is simply the protest against disappearing, see. People don't want you to disappear so they convince you, you'd better not. You better stay appeared.
Now, what if you tried to employ a staff of engineers or electricians on your big slave plantation on Archimedes or something of the sort and you went out there and you bought these big—oh, big turbowheeligigs and so forth. They all had to be run, it was all very important, And everybody you had there, everybody you had there—it was the middle of the workweek, too—and they all just disappeared.
Look it. Look at all the leg irons you bought that are now just going to do nothing but rust. What are you going to put them on? So you quite commonly would object to things disappearing like this without any warning.
Other reasons—we don't care anything about the reasons why—but to stay in communication with somebody, it is necessary that they appear, see? At least to the degree of stopping what you're throwing to them. You know, they've got to backboard something, they've got to receive it. So they have to appear.
Now, did you ever have anybody around you who was terribly vague, that would look up from a magazine or something of this sort, you know? And you would say, "It's 5 o'clock. I guess we'd better be going," and they would say, "Yes, dear," or something of the sort and look at you, kind of vague eyes, and go on reading the magazine? Have you ever had anybody like that around who was vague?
Well, if you just get the concept— this is not therapeutic, just experimental—just get the concept of trying to communicate with such a vague person. Can you get that?
Female voice: Mm-hm.
It's sort of like falling into nothing, isn't it? Female voice: Yeah.
Well, all right. That's your protest against somebody who is just disappearing as you try to communicate with them, you see.
Appearance is a necessary part of communication. But a nothing can communicate with a nothing, of course. But there, we've both agreed upon disappearance. Two disappeared things are communicating with each other.
Now, supposing one of them appeared. That would be a dirty trick. That quite commonly occurs. A thetan suddenly sends a beam back down the line which has got a lot of zap to it and goes smack! Something appeared there, certainly. So people become very uneasy about appearance and disappearance.
This process run on somebody will actually cure stage fright and that sort of thing.
That's all part and parcel of it. But there's the DEI cycle dramatized in Opening Procedure. You can run anything with Opening Procedure, just anything—any of these Opening Procedures.
Okay.
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