Basic Individual Processes (7ACC 540708)
Series: 7th Advanced Clinical Course (7ACC)
Date: 8 July 1954
Speaker: L. Ron Hubbard
An auditing demonstration given by L. Ron Hubbard on the 8 July 1954
This is a processing session showing you the basic process on which individual processing is being done. It can also be done on a group, but I want to show you the basic individual process which can be done. And so we're going to take a preclear and one has already elected herself. She's just sitting up here. So, let's get right to work on the thing. How about you just standing up and coming over here by the desk.
LRH: And how you doing?
PC: I'm doing very well, thank you.
LRH: How you doing in the group?
PC: In the group? I think I'm doing very well there too.
LRH: Good. Individual processing pretty good? You're pretty well exteriorized?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Pretty well exteriorized?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Good. Why don't you be about five feet back of your head.
PC: Can V quite make it five feet. I can't get that far away.
LRH: Three feet. Three feet.
PC: Hmm…
LRH: Two feet.
PC: Two and a half.
LRH: Two and a half? Two and a half okay?
PC: Two and a half, I think, is all right.
LRH: Okay. Your body is safe if you're two and a half feet away from it. Is that right?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Is that right?
PC: My body is safe.
LRH: Uh-huh. Well, why are you talking about this, whether it's two and a half or five?
PC: I can't seem to make it too far away.
LRH: You can't, huh?
PC: Nat – I'm not certain.
LRH: Had Exteriorization by Distance run on you?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: All right. Well, let's not worry about it one way or the other. Now, anything you're looking at, duplicate it.
PC: It's a batch of hazy …
LRH: Good.
PC: … fog so I….
LRH: Good. Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again. And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again. And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again. Again.
Now, take all those duplicates and push them all together, eat them up.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Do that easily?
PC: Well, they push together rather easily; this eating up business is …
LRH: Wasn't so good.
PC: … something else again.
LRH: Couldn't get them all the way in? What happened?
PC: Well, they went in, but hm …
LRH: Well, why don't you just push them all the way in now.
PC: They didn't seem too real all the way in.
LRH: Oh, they didn't seem too real.
PC: Mh-huh.
M LRH: Well, that's all right. Now, let's find a nothingness someplace.
PC: I think I 'm going to have to create one.
LRH: All right. Create one.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate the first one you made.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Where are you putting these duplicates?
PC: Right up around – all in …
LRH: All right. Good. Fine.
PC: … in that area …
LRH: Just where you're putting them.
PC: …but I…
LRH: All right. Throw them away.
What? Did they stay there?
PC: Yeah, sort of. They're moving around. They're not quite thrown away yet. Okay. They're thrown.
LRH: All right. They're all thrown away?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Did they throw away automatically or something or …
PC: Oh, no. I bad to kick them out.
LRH: Oh, you did, huh? Well, all right.
Okay. Now, how about finding the two back anchor corners of this room, huh? Two back anchor points of the room – upper back corners of the room.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: How about that? Got them?
PC: Yeah, I think so.
LRH: All right. Hold on to them.
Now, don't think, just hold on to them.
Okay. Let go of them.
Now, find some places where you're not.
PC: All right. Shall I name them?
LRH: Sure.
PC: Okay. I'm not in that dark little pantry.
LRH: Good.
PC: I'm not in Auditing Room 2. I'm not in the recording room. Good.
I'm not out in patches. I'm not out in Bobby's Cadillac. I'm not in the backyard by a car that's out there.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: I'm not in the kitchen …
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: … or in Auditing Room 3.
LRH: Good. Some more places.
PC: Right there.
LRH: Good.
PC: Ah, no, I am there. I take it back.
I am not…
LRH: "I am there," you said?
PC: Well, I came back again.
LRH: Oh, I see.
Give me some more places you're not.
PC: I forgot to name it and I came back because…
LRH: Okay.
PC: I'm not by the water cooler.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm …
LRH: All right. Let's reassume that place you just came back to accidentally.
PC: I can't get all the way there.
LRH: Oh? Oh, well. Skip it.
Give me some more places where you're not.
PC: I mean – I'm not just beyond the last chair…
LRH: Good.
PC: … beyond the first one.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in the store across the street.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the… Well, it is a patch of – patch of sidewalk.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not at my house.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not – I'm not in a corner of the back kitchen – it's an upper corner.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the – the job n.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not on the table where the mail comes in.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the microphone.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I am not occupying the back corner that the curtains close on.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in your chair.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the floor…
LRH: Good.
PC: … about two feet behind me. And hm, wait a minute. I wasn't even outside my body from there. And I'm not in the arm of your chair.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the Venetian blinds.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not on that gravelly sort of walk outside.
LRH: Fine.
PC: And I'm not in the Westward Ho.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the Contra Room – Concho Room.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not on the street.
LRH: Good.
P C: And I'm – I can't see wherever it was. I'm not in the chair I vacated a while ago.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in the doorway.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the doorway at the back of the room.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the far corner chair in the back of the room.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm getting something turned on all over my body somehow. It's beginning to shake.
LRH: Some more places where you're not, please.
PC: And I'm not sitting on top of the recording machine.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the upper corner of Auditing Room 1.
LRH: Good.
PC: I'm not in the pine tree…
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: … outside. And I'm not on the steps outride.
LRH: Good.
PC: I'm not on the back steps.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in the back doorway.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in the door that leads from Auditing Room 3, outside.
LRH: Good.
PC: And I'm not in the earphones in the … back in the … in the recording room. And I'm not in the watchamadoodle bush that's outside.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in the exterminating house.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in this – the art store that's around the corner…
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: … on some street and Second. And I'm not in the church.
LRH: How is this shakiness?
PC: Oh, it's worse.
LRH: Well, just give me some more places where you're not.
PC: I'm not next to the left hand wall of this room.
LRH: Good.
PC: And not against the bulletin board.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: I'm not on the baseboard underneath the bulletin board …
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: …on the linoleum. And I'm not in an ashtray. I don't know where it's located, but I'm not in it.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: I'm not in my purse.
LRH: Mm-hm. You locating these places you're not in?
PC: Most of them.
LRH: Well, let's locate all of them now.
PC: Okay. Some of them just spring and I don't know where they are.
LRH: Well, all right. Let's just locate each one.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Let's get the ones – places for sure where you're not.
PC: I'm not in the rubber pad underneath the mike.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I m not in the dirty green rug.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in my shoes, actually.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I am not in the curtain.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And not in the little loop of wire underneath it.
LRH: Mm-hm. What's happening with all this shakiness?
PC: Oh. it's . . ,
LRH: Still shaking?
PC: … yeah, still shaking.
LRH: But worse or better?
PC: It seems to have sort of stabilized on a bad plane.
LRH: All right. Give me some more places where you're not.
PC: And I'm not in the little electrical gadget…
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: … that's down on the wall.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in the next-to-last chair in the first row.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in the floor underneath my chair.
LRH: Good. How's the shakiness? Better or worse?
PC: Well, it gets worse every time I really concentrate on locating it. It gets worse. And if I just let the location spring to mind, it's not so bad.
LRH: You're letting it spring to mind. How about you just looking, finding it and spotting where you are not. Let's not have any springs going on here.
PC: And I'm not in the patch of floor that seems to be just in front of the next-to-last chair.
LRH: All right. Now, just you locate a place and tell me you're not there.
PC: That's what I did then.
LRH: All right. Was that easier?
PC: Oh, it's not difficult, it's just…
LRH: Well, let's do it that way.
PC: Uh-huh. And I'm not in the corner of the podium.
LRH: Good.
PC: Hm. My stomach s turning on now.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in a patch of floor surrounding the bottom of the door that leads out of this room.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in one of the anchor points at the back of this room we're so often grabbing.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: And I'm not in a piece of the doorframe at the back of this room.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: Whew! I'm feeling very sick now.
LRH: Pretty bad, huh?
PC: Uh-huh. This makes you feel good, eh?
LRH: This makes who feel good? Me?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Oh, you think I want you to be sick?
PC: No, not necessarily, bat I'd enjoy it if I were you. And uh …
LRH: Go on. Carry on. Some more places where you are not. Locate them and …
PC: I'm riot in the place… Eh – I locate that real good.
LRH: Good.
PC: I'm not in the place where the wall divides colors.
LRH: Good. Feeling worse?
PC: Mh-huh.
LRH: Is that so?
PC: Yeah. And I 'm not in the upper left corner of this room. And I m not even two and a half feet in back of my head. I've shifted and I've gone down lower.
LRH: Mm-hm. Where are you now?
PC: It's sort of about one and a half feet above the floor.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Way down to the floor?
PC: It was way down there.
LRH: "Way down there," you said?
PC: Way down there, the floor.
LRH: Oh, yeah. Where are you?
PC: I'm…
LRH: Where are you?
PC: Well, I can feel myself being…
LRH: Being what?
PC: Well, I keep wanting to say, "here." I keep feeling myself being about one and a half feet above the floor.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: My perception …
LRH: How about you giving me something that could occupy the same space that you're occupying.
PC: Excuse me. The desk is weaving.
LRH: All right. Just sit down on the edge of the rostrum and give me something that could occupy the same space you could occupy.
PC: Mm-hm. Well, the floor could.
LRH: All right.
PC: And the podium.
LRH: Good.
PC: And the base of the mic.
LRH: Good.
You sure the base of the mic could occupy the same space you're occupying?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: How would that be? Real good?
PC: Oh, yeah, that would be good.
LRH: That would be real good?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Well, fine. Why don't you mock-up a mic base and pull it in on yourself.
Can you do that?
PC: Yes.
LRH: Another one.
PC: All right.
LRH: Another one.
PC: It doesn't want to mock-up.
LRH: It doesn't want to mock-up?
PC: Uh-uh.
LRH: How about mocking-up the floor and pulling it in on you?
PC: Uh-hub.
LRH: You do that easily?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Another one.
PC: It seems very odd to lift the floor above this chair that I'm sitting on.
LRH: Well, just pull it in on you and eat it all up.
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: Crunch it all down.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Chomp, chomp.
Get another floor.
PC: I want to bring you into it… I've got it. It's even pending being acknowledged.
LRH: Good.
PC: It's all gone.
LRH: Another floor. – ^
PC: Okay.
LRH: Make you feel better?
PC: Uh-huh, lots.
LRH: Another floor.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Another floor.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Another one.
PC: Uh-hub.
LRH: Another one.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Another one.
PC: Uh-hub.
LRH: Feeling a lot better?
PC: Oh, lots and lots.
LRH: Oh, good. All right. Another one.
PC: All right.
LRH: Another one.
PC: Uh-hub.
LRH: Another one.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Another one.
PC: Yup.
LRH: Feel a lot better now?
PC: Mh-huh.
LRH: Okay. You still feel shaky?
PC: No, I don't believe so.
LRH: You don't believe so?
PC: No.
LRH: Okay. Stand up again. All right.
Be two and a half feet back of your head. You can hold on to the edge of the desk.
PC: Now, wait a minute. I'm trying to see if I feel shaky. No, I – no, hardly at all. In fact, not at all.
LRH: Are you exteriorized?
PC: Not very much.
LRH: Any at all?
PC: Yeah, I – uh-hmh.
LRH: Well, good. Duplicate anything you're looking at.
PC: I can't make sense out of what I 'm looking at.
LRH: Well, just duplicate it.
PC: Okay. Mm-hm.
LRH: More.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: More.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: More.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Push all these duplicates together and pull them in on yourself.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Did you do that? Was that more easy this time?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Hm?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. What you looking at now?
PC: A different angle of the same thing.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Wait a second, I want to look at the original again. Yeah. Okay. It's duplicated.
LRH: All right. Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again. on.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. Pull them all together.
PC: All right.
LRH: Pull them in on yourself.
PC: Oh-huh.
LRH: Okay.
PC: It's very odd. I seem to be just a little bit in back of my neck.
LRH: Okay.
PC: So I'm pulling them through my body.
LRH: Through you?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Okay. Got yourself located, though, haven't you?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: All right. What you looking at now?
PC: I think I was looking at a shoulder.
LRH: All right. Duplicate it.
PC: All right.
LRH: And again.
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Pull all the duplicates together now. Pull them in on yourself.
PC: All right.
LRH: Okay. Now, what are you looking at?
PC: I seem to catch the curve of my shorts somehow.
LRH: All right. Duplicate it.
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: What's happening as you do this? It upset you?
PC: Yeah. I'm getting sick again.
LRH: No kidding?
PC: No, honestly and truly.
LRH: Ail right. Pull all these duplicates together and push them into your stomach.
PC: Oh. my stomach. Ooh! Ooh, this Remedy of Havingness isn't so hot.
LRH: What's happening?
PC: My stomach is objecting violently.
LRH: No kidding?
PC: No, it's really true.
LRH: Push them all together and push them into your stomach.
PC: All right.
LRH: They get in there?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: All right. What wouldn't your stomach mind having occupy the same space as it's occupying?
PC: Nothing!
LRH: All right. Have some nothing occupy it.
PC: Oh, no, no. [laughter]
LRH: All right. Now, give me the proper answer: What wouldn't your stomach mind having occupy the same space it's occupying?
PC: My stomach would rather it simply folded in on itself.
LRH: Okay. Fold it in. Be two and a half feet back of your head.
PC: Could I sit down and do this, Ron?
LRH: Sure. Be two and a half feet back of your head.
PC: Umm, all right.
LRH: Okay. Now, give me something you wouldn't mind having occupy the same space that you're occupying.
PC: The corner of the desk.
LRH: Good. Something else.
PC: Mm-hm. A little whisk on your rug.
LRH: Good. Something else.
PC: The wheel in the axle – whatever you call it of the car.
LRH: Good. Something else.
PC: A piece of lousy-looking dirt.
LRH: Hm?
PC: A piece of lousy-looking dirt.
LRH: Okay. Is that all right?
PC: Oh, yeah.
LRH: All right. Something else you wouldn't mind having occupy the space you're occupying?
PC: Oh, hmm, hmm. I can't tell what it is …
LRH: Hm?
PC: I was looking at something, hut I don't know what it is. It turned off immediately somehow.
LRH: Oh, well, you just tell me what you wouldn't mind having occupy the same space that's yours.
PC: Oh, you don't want me to locate it or anything?
LRH: I don't want you locating things to find out if they're this and that. I begin to wonder here.
PC: Oh, all right.
LRH: Just call them off.
PC: Okay. Wouldn't mind my purse.
LRH: Your what?
PC: My purse.
LRH: Your purse. Okay.
PC: And I wouldn't mind another purse.
LRH: Good.
PC: A reel of tape.
LRH: Good.
PC: Umm… . um … microphone.
LRH: Good.
PC: Telephone.
LRH: Good.
PC: Wastebasket.
LRH: Good.
PC: Um … record.
LRH: That make you feel better?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Let's have some more things you wouldn't mind having occupy the same space you're occupying.
PC: Umm, the chair…
LRH: Good.
PC: … that I'm sitting in.
LRH: Good.
PC: Um, the chaise longue.
LRH: Good.
PC: The water cooler.
LRH: Good.
PC: The water inside that cooler.
LRH: Fine.
PC: And the fir tree and the pine tree over there somewhere.
LRH: Uh-huh. How you doing now? You getting a perception change?
PC: Very slight.
LRH: Very slight.
PC: Mm-hm. I can …
LRH: How's your exteriorization certainty now?
PC: Well, for a while there, it was full of – ah, it was just wildly uncertain, after that…
LRH: Okay.
PC: … after you started working on me. Now, it's a little more certain than it was.
LRH: All right. How's it feel now?
PC: Oh, I'm still sure I'm exteriorized and…
LRH: Good.
PC: … that's about the extent of it.
LRH: That's about the extent of it.
What you looking at?
PC: It's the same thing I couldn't figure out before.
LRH: Good. Duplicate it.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Pull all the duplicates together and pull them, in to yourself.
PC: All right. Oh, I got a tremendous perception change just then.
LRH: What happened?
PC: I was looking at my shoulder, only I could really see it in color for a few seconds.
LRH: Your what?
PC: My shoulder.
LRH: Really?
PC: Uh-huh.
LRH: All right.
PC: Funny. I can't see it anymore.
LRH: What you looking at now?
PC: A different angle of it.
LRH: Different angle. Mm-hm,
PC: Okay.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it.
PC: Oh, these duplicates are getting wildly unreal.
LRH: They get wildly erratic?
PC: They're unreal! And they're …
LRH: They getting too real?
PC: No, the duplicates aren't real.
LRH: Oh, they aren't real.
PC: They don't look like the original.
LRH: Well …
PC: I can V make them look that way.
LRH: Oh, heck! Push them all together and pull them in on yourself.
PC: All right.
LRH: Did that?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: All right. What you looking at now?
PC: The same thing I was.
LRH: What is that?
PC: That's the top of my shoulder.
LRH: Uh-huh. Why don't you duplicate it again.
PC: That's better. All right.
LRH: Duplicate it again.
PC: All right.
LRH: Duplicate it again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Duplicate it again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Duplicate it again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: And again.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Push all the duplicates together and pull them in on yourself.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Do that easily?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: You getting them in more easily now?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: You are, huh?
PC: Uh-huh. I guess it's because I'm more certain that I'm here.
LRH: Well, what do you know. Okay.
Find a nothingness. Find one this time.
PC: All right.
LRH: Did you?
PC: Well, I'm having a real tough time.
LRH: Well, you find one.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Got one?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Well, hooray for you.
PC: It's a toy.
LRH: Good. Duplicate it.
PC: Oh, I'm having a tough time duplicating it.
LRH: What's the matter?
PC: I don't know. It just – there's nothingness …
LRH: Well, let's duplicate it.
PC: Well, okay. I've got it.
LRH: Did you?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Duplicate it again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: And again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: And again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: And again.
PC: Okay.
LRH: And again.
What's happening?
PC: Oh, every once in a while a batch of MEST keeps trying to creep in.
LRH: Oh, really? Oh, well, push them all together.
PC: They're duplicates, not the originals. They're…
LRH: Duplicates?
PC: They 're – yeah, they 're all…
LRH: Push them into the original.
PC: Well, the original was me.
LRH: All right.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Got it real good now?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Mm-hm. All right. What you looking at now?
PC: I don '(know.
LRH: Can't distinguish what it is?
PC: I don't know.
LRH: No? Duplicate it a few times.
PC: It's very foggy and black.
LRH: Well, good. Duplicate it.
PC: Got it duplicated four times.
LRH: Have it duplicated a lot of times?
PC: Four. Do you want me to put some more in?
LRH: Oh, duplicate it a lot more times.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Now, how are you duplicating this?
PC: I don 't really know bow. There's the original and…
LRH: You don't quite know how?
PC: No. I – I'm …
LRH: Well …
PC: … pretty darn certain I'm not doing it by machine, but…
LRH: Well, what are you doing? Hm?
PC: I throw up a picture sort of…
LRH: Hm?
PC: I-I use – I think I throw up a picture. Do you want me…? It's a mock-up.
LRH: Oh, it is? Were you putting it there?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: You are?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Okay.
Note: The recording ends abruptly.
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