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'''Date:''' 18 August 1950

'''Speaker:''' L. Ron Hubbard

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Now, I am giving a talk on something that you can make notes on. The next few minutes, the last lecture today, is not a stet lecture. That is to say, it is not rote; this is not something that has been precisely formulated, but this is something which is subject to change. I am going to give it to you, however, because it is the best we know at the moment on this subject, and a lot of you people are already working with this subject without a complete knowledge of it. We can’t put an injunction on you to stop working with it, so therefore I’d better tell you what I know. Is that agreeable?

I’m talking about Guk. It’s a technical word, which, if I remember, is what the marines called the junk they throw together to swamp rifles with—at least in one marine detachment of which I knew when I was a kid. My old man was in the Navy. They called this stuff Guk. Well, it cleaned out rifles and made them slick and shiny So, I figured out, well, Guk—that’s a nice word for this, particularly since it’s used to clean . . .

Male voice: It’s used to clean motorcycles, too.

Is it? We could call this a polysyllabic osteobooster, and we could give it a fancy name and call it special types of Guk, with long words in them. But actually, what you are going to get is probably Guk 1, Guk 2, Guk 3—short, snappy.

Furthermore, it’s a mass word and covers a multitude of sins and chemicals.

The formulas that are being set up on this are just about as well understood at this moment as the old witch who took a yard of spider webbing, boiled it in the dark of the moon, put a frog skin in with it, stirred it around and around, gave it an incantation, and then dropped a few leaves of digitalis, stirred it all up, and gave it to somebody and cured him of something. And it might have been the digitalis, of course. But she didn’t know that, and it undoubtedly was—she was rather inclined to think it was the frog skin and maybe the time of day. But that’s Guk at the present moment of development.

The whole theory behind Guk is the fact that living tissue furnishes to us a method of catalyzing the activities of the body which is not furnished to us by plant tissue. By living tissue, I mean animal tissue. The whole world—herbology exists around the idea that’s what to do. However, when you check out scopolamine, morphine, cocaine, marijuana, et cetera, et cetera, and all these things coming out of plants— herbs—we find a great big beautiful goose egg as to beneficial effect on man. Interesting, isn’t it?

As far as we have been able to learn at this time, only one of these things has one slight minor assist. All the rest of them foul up therapy. Interesting. They call these things hypnotics when they’re anesthetics, for instance. All the hypnotics, all the things called hypnotics in this field of plant drugs—these are mostly synthesized plant drugs or types which were originally derived from plants—all of these that are called hypnotics are actually anesthetics. And the anesthetics which are being used today are actually hypnotics. Otherwise they’re not very much mixed up.

So, we did a lot of chemical research with plants, herbs, derivatives, synthetics, and it wasn’t working out. We got a bit of a theory one day that it was probably animal tissue, that there might be some derivatives of the animal body which would reinforce an animal body, such as man’s, to carry on. Actually, you look at the efficacy with which penicillin works—that is, in effect, an animal derivative, not plants.

Now, following this along, we thought about it a little farther. It seemed to me that we could possibly go on a program of manufacture. A very complex program it would have been, too, following some line of this order: We want a euphoric. All right, let’s find a disease which creates euphoria in the ill person. There are several such diseases. One of them is tuberculosis. Therefore, let’s culture tuberculosis. Hard stuff to culture, by the way. Let’s culture it and let’s find some part of it—that is to say, of its waste or byproduct, to get technical about this biologically, that’s not important—and we take and find any portion of this, which is all strained of any possible contagion and we have a drug which is manufactured by living tissues. So, it looked pretty good. It looked like we had opened up quite a chapter of drugs.

I found out some work had been done along this line, but the stuff produced was so fantastically powerful that it really had to be held down. They gave it in micro-micro-micrograms. Very interesting that there would be such impact value of this stuff Like penicillin—a mold and so forth. But, of course, a mold is not quite over the border—it’s sort of hanging there in between. And it took—erythromycin was manufactured from a soil bacteria—actually bacteria, I believe, in this case, and this stuff’s got too much jolt. And it’s pretty good on surface wounds and it helps the body out, but too much jolt on those internal shots.

Well, we started moving over further into animal tissue. It looked as though we had arrived along a line which we have found—an area from which we can extract drugs; all this was carefully worked out. But once Guk started, Mrs. Hulswit in New York City, a cancer specialist, very nice lady, figured and figured and figured on this, and suddenly figured out everything she had ever seen that affected nerve tissue. And she dumped them all into a hopper and opened up the throats of some individuals and said, “Swallow.” And then she said, “Lets run engrams.” And then she found out that the file clerk and the somatic strip would behave automatically when running engrams.

Her signal contribution absolutely is that astonishing discovery that these things will run automatically as entirely distinct from auto. She discovered, in short, an automatic action that’s been right there before our eyes all the time, and we hadn’t seen it. There’s an awful lot of stuff like that in Dianetics. The very least you will get is a word from the Foundation, probably considerably more than that. We are busy now running series back East on Guk.

I started calling it Guk when I first looked at this coal bucket full of pills that she was throwing down these people. You see, because you pour some out of this bottle and some out of this bottle and some out of this bottle and then have somebody else finish it up. Then get it down a person’s throat, swallow it with milk, and they’ve got action. That’s what was important. And I looked the thing over, and there was one single thing in this that was not from living animal tissue. There was one thing there. And the subsequent test on which I received the reports just day before yesterday, that happens to be the suppressor in the dose—actually, she had something there that was putting the brakes on. Now it also, by the way, was the one thing that had to be gotten in California by prescription. The rest of it is across the counter.

Now, we haven’t finished our tests on Guk by a long ways. We do find out that it takes the edge off of jittery somatics and aberrations. That’s the least it does. Now, how much more it does than that—we know it’s safe. We know it aids one to run engrams. And we are not yet willing to go along the line on how far the automatic character there has—how far that can be let go, and how much it will influence the case, but we have got quite a few case histories running, Don Rogers, back at the Foundation, “Give me more Guk; give me more Guk,” “How are you running?” He has got a lot of fun. He has got about eight boys as assistants, doing nothing but running people on this, trying to find out what in it is influencing something else.

One fellow threw in a vitamin that all of a sudden was discovered that this vitamin was absolutely necessary in Guk, It wasn’t there before; it was absolutely necessary if you wanted to get off sunburns.

Now, I am telling you about Guk so that you will know about it, I am not posting here a big, didactic manifesto that is A-authority on the subject of biochemical clearing. We have got so much further to go on this that we couldn’t look at it with the Mount Palomar telescope. But we have got enough now so that we can speed up the case. Just one ingredient of Guk, for instance, will make a case run darn near pianola for fifteen minutes, just one ingredient.

Now, the material which is currently used in this particular stuff is amino acids. They’re all broken down proteins. That’s animal tissue, proteins. This is why we say suddenly that, looking it over, it looks like a very cursory theory here, a very primitive theory, because probably once upon a time man got an awful lot more protein than he is now. And he might have been a self-clearing mechanism. Because by getting a lot of protein, he might have been a self-clearing mechanism two days after conception, and he’d have had this all his life.

Now, just exactly how this tallies, whether it is true, whether or not the advances of the modern world are due to the fact that man stopped being a self-clearing individual, et cetera, et cetera, I don’t know. We just throw that all up in the air and let it come down as it may. We will have some answers someday, maybe. But in no slightest degree are you to take this as the last word, I am talking to you about research, I keep telling you about this for one reason.

Back at the research laboratories, “Ha, this is the stuff,” I make an announcement in class, someone is running early life, “We are investigating early lives,” Holy smokes, everybody had early lives, everybody had dub-in; and the funny part of it was that it wasn’t my announcement that got them up.

Saturday night course people came in and one of them was sitting there, and he just got through taking a person back that tripped into it automatically. So people were wondering whether or not it had been suggestion. It wasn’t my suggestion. It is a teaching of several lines of thought that such things exist. Now, I don’t know whether they exist or not. I don’t know if I have contacted them or haven’t contacted them. I don’t know the subject, because I have myself been thrown back along the track, and I find it very, very easy to contact something at 410 B.C., which is what the flash answer was. But on examining them further, I found out what control circuitry was, what dub-in was, found out that dub-in makes those pictures people see in prenatal. That’s a control circuitry. There are pictures—look for the control circuitry. It’s right adjacent there. It will be somewhere in that engram, and back out goes the picture. So it might be with early lives, and actually I have not found anyone running early lives who didn’t have a great deal of control circuitry. The early life dodge seems to put salad dressing around an actual engram, and it makes a person unresponsible then for what happened to him. He says, “Well, this happened in another life.” And he can dress it up that way.

Now, that’s one explanation. That happens to be the one the Foundation is buying currently, and I hope to Lord, however, it doesn’t shut off research in other directions. Because we have in research, telepathy, clairvoyance, astrology—you see, everything, anything. And it so happens that in early lives—there’s a lot of talk been going on about early lives, a lot of talk. But in Dianetics, a person being run in Dianetics, being run as engrams, straight engrams, can get some of the most beautiful depths with somatics, with grief discharges, with everything else off some former existence. Of course, we find out that all we have got to do is to say, “Let’s find this in your prenatal bank” or say, “Let’s come forward to your own prenatal life” and boom! There’s the person running out the actual engram. Actually, you will be told about this, of course, and you’re being told now, and I might not tell you again, but it’s a nice technique to get around a dub-in. Very smooth technique, because you can get unconsciousness, actually, you can get some of the somatics off the case and it clears him up no end and he’s contacting something which he gives a subjective reality to, and everything is fine, and then the case seems to run a bit easier. So it’s a technique.

I have just been handed a note which reads: “Suggestion, cooking of meat may have been the turning point.” I will have to tell Don about that, tell him to go on out and cook some of these aminos and find out what happens to them. There’s something about this that’s quite interesting.

Now, the acids which we are using specifically at this moment— believe me, take note of “at this moment” because this formula will probably be different by nine o’clock tonight. We have learned that glutamic acid—as simple as that—will have a boosting effect on engrams. It has a boosting effect on all auditing. That is to say, you audit them more easily with some glutamic acid in them. The dose on that is about four tablets, seven-and-a-half-grain tablets and its dextrorotatory glutamic acid. That’s an L (+); a little L (+) goes in front of it. You will notice on the bottle it says L (-) and L (+). You want L (+). If some of you people start taking this thing, it’s not going to do you any harm, but you are not going to get a good square look at engrams. But if you want to know how to resolve cases, if you start boosting a case heavily on Guk, this case is going to start running automatic on you, and that’s a very clever sorting process.

You have to be very clever to sort out a case that’s been run on Guk. You do it simply and quickly. Of course, you can go back again and run it just as standard therapy. I will cover that in a moment. But it is so much better if you have looked at engrams the tough way, because there will always be Standard Procedure. And glutamic acid is a very highly specialized synthetic. I call that to your attention.

We might not have highly specialized synthetics. That’s a little grim point to introduce at this point, but when you get anything up as complicated as amino acids and packaging and distributing and so on, and your distribution lines go out and maybe you don’t get them to the consumer. Because this society’s getting to a point where you pull a cotter pin and—poof! So Standard Procedure is important even if you have a shot-in-the-arm Clear. A guy walks in the door, you give him a shot in the arm, and he walks out Clear. Standard Procedure works and produces a Clear. You have got to work a lot longer on it, but it will produce a Clear. We don’t even know at this moment whether you produce a better Clear with Standard Procedure than with a chemical basis. It may be that you produce a better Clear on a handmade basis. Personally, I don’t know. I am inclined to believe that there won’t be a terrific amount of difference.

Now, there’s one ingredient of Guk I have given you, but glutamic acid doesn’t seem to work very long or very well unless it’s superboosted with thiamine chloride, B1· We have taken B1, and we have boosted it, thrown it into a case by the handful and tried to run it, and there was no improvement. And they have run a case that was filled with glutamic acid—mind you, glutamic acid’s been used before; they didn’t know about engrams. So, that was what was beautiful, not knowing about engrams. All of these old things that were tested, you see, those tests are all invalidated.

Now, glutamine all by itself evidently burns up or doesn’t run very well without the thiamine. So the thiamine is nothing by itself, and the glutamic runs out and doesn’t function by itself But, both together, they work swell. So, your dosage is four seven-and-a-half-grain tablets, plus two hundred milligrams of thiamine hydrochloride. That’s the ratio there which is now being used. And it appears to be a good ratio, and that’s every time you take this glutamic.

Now, the next ingredient on this is the one which, if you administer it to the case all by itself, accelerates the case quite markedly. And that happens to be niacin. Niacin, fifty to one hundred milligrams. Give it in two consecutive doses, but don’t go overboard on niacin—that is, go further with those consecutive doses every day. Try to keep niacin down below two hundred milligrams per day. It seems to work best if it’s kept down below one hundred but don’t send it over two, because it will start turning on sunburn somatics and then manufacture its own somatics to turn on, so to speak. That’s also an adjudication I didn’t make. That was just dope passed on to me.

I don’t highly value the source of that particular bit of information, that it will turn on its own somatics. I never saw anything else positive, so it might not. But they said to keep it down below two hundred milligrams per day. This is all drugstore stuff. Anybody can go out and get this stuff. It’s not drugs. All right. Those are three ingredients.

Now, the fourth ingredient, vitamin C, two hundred milligrams ascorbic acid. This is all one dose I am giving you. Vitamin A, fifty thousand units, and vitamin E, a big question on how much of vitamin E. A good solid dose, four or five times of what you ought to give people. That’s the way all this stuff runs. It’s exaggerated in its dosage.

Now, let’s see, was there anything else in that list? B12, a small quantity of B12, a couple of standard tablets. I am not sure where that B12 comes in. Five micrograms is the standard tablet on the thing, and it’s two of those tablets, which would be 10 micrograms of B12. Now, vitamin E, vitamin A—that’s the list.

Okay. And this is your starter dose. That’s your A dose. That’s dose A. And you give dose A at the beginning of the case, and then you dose A again in about an hour. And then you dose A again in about an hour—and from the beginning, of course, you start the case. You start the auditing in one of two ways, which I will describe to you.

Now then, we get a two hour jump, and we take the fat solubles out of it, which of course is the A and the E. You drop those out, and you drop out the niacin. You just subtract those three; A, E and niacin are subtracted from the dose and this is the remaining group there, becomes dose B. That’s now dose B. You give dose B every couple of hours, for several doses, five or six doses or something like that.

Then, go into the last dosage on it, which omits B12. This is dose C. Omit B12 from dose B. The remainder, you see there, is your C dose.

A,	B, C doses.

Now, the way you give this then, is a person gets dose A once every day after that—the first thing in the morning, you get dose A again. And then they get, four hours later, dose C, four hours after that dose B, four hours after that, dose C, until you get around to the next morning when you give dose A again. Now, that is the Guk formula. This is the coal-bucket method of administering Guk.

Now, what we want to know is this—and you can keep this in mind. We know the ingredients now. You keep this in mind. A is the whole parade. That’s dose A. Dose B, we take out the fat solubles which are the A and E, and dose C, we just subtract B12 out, because it has some toxic effect, overdoses; and we start the person out, A, A, A and then B,	B, B, B, B, B; or if you feel like it, B, B, B, B, B, B and then you carry him with C until you get him around in the morning when youhave got A. You do this to him for ten days. There’s your starter dose, which is a big boost. Right at the beginning. And then your intermediate doses, while you are still auditing on him. And then you just let him carry on for ten days with A in the morning and every four hours for the rest of the day until the night, you get C dose and that’s C dosage. I imagine some of you may be becoming confused just because of this, because I am saying, A, B, and C vitamins and A, B and C doses. But it’s clear enough.

Now, this is Guk. And that is all there is to it at this time. About five or six other ingredients are in the process of testing, and these ingredients—some of them look a little better, some of them look a little worse and so on. This is not any kind of a standard piece of dosage at all.

Now, this is not for general release. I am giving this to you for the reason that you have—some of you—already started on it. There are several of you going to go on it. You will be working with it, a lot of you, and I want to tell you about it, how it functions. But in about a couple of weeks when I have got cases out in nice beautiful shape and so on, nice presentation case histories, it will be released generally and to the press, and it will come from the Foundation in the form of a bulletin. So, if you tell people about this (as you naturally will, I know you will) you will tell them, each one of them, that it’s not for publication. And it’s not to be published. That is important. Will you please tag that on? I have pledged you to deepest secrecy now. So when you tell about it, please add my security labels on it.

This isn’t going to get anybody in trouble. I mean that people aren’t going to have anything bad happen to them because of this. This is probably a long way from the finished package and actually the techniques—I had to develop a couple of special techniques just for this Guk. The techniques will undoubtedly be enormously defined as we discover the automatic character of these things; it has now to be fixed up so an auditor can use it.

Now, I want to tell you what Guk looks like in action. The person takes a slug of it. He achieves, usually, no great bodily change. All right, he doesn’t feel that anything has happened, particularly if he is stuck on the time track. He doesn’t feel like anything’s happened at all. This thing affects somatics independently. So, there he is, stuck on the time track, and you feed him Guk and he doesn’t know he’s taken anything. But now we work him in standard processing, just Standard Procedure. That’s all we do, just like he had no Guk. In order to boost him out of this holder in which he is in, we may have to work him quite a while to get him out of one of these holders held somewhere on the track. We shake him loose somehow and we get him moving some way or another.

It doesn’t affect very much the analytical ability, but it sure affects the devil out of engrams and it sure gives the file clerk the stuff—the file clerk gets right in there and it starts slugging. And it doesn’t pick up the activities of the demon circuit. It does seem to pick up the activities of the file clerk. He gets brighter and his flashes are more accurate.

Now, we have to get the case moving. Now, right here at the beginning of the Guk run you have two courses you can follow after you have made sure he is moving. One is to just let him run automatically, with a check auditing of a kind that I will tell you about in a moment; and the other one is just to keep him going in Standard Procedure, in reverie and so forth, straight line memory, everything else, just as though he weren’t running in Guk—working the file clerk, commanding the somatic strip, going right on through. You will find out that this takes the curse off of working some of these cases, because you can’t get into as much trouble in a case with Guk. You can hit an engram three quarters of the way up the track that will normally freeze up, and it will run. Mind you now, it’s not going to run with grace and speed and so forth, just go zip and be gone. You are going to have to run it and run it, all its perceptics, really have to run it. But the thing will reduce. Unconsciousness will come off of it and so forth, even though its basic isn’t out.

So, that’s really the way to shoot holes in the control circuitry. Because the control circuitry is in engrams all the way up and down the track. So one doesn’t have to be quite as adroit about avoiding restimulation in the case. One has to be very adroit, however, in keeping the case going, because he hasn’t got time to sit around and wonder about the case. This case is going to start running like wildfire on him. In a lot of cases, you can chain-audit the person from twelve to fourteen hours, that is, auditor after auditor, taking over for two hour runs on him and keep on running.

It’s not too good to do that. It’s a lot of work.

You can audit him, by the way, Standard Procedure. You can audit him for two hours and a half, three hours, just Standard Procedure and then wait until tomorrow and set it up and give him another two hours of auditing tomorrow. But he is on Guk right straight along. You can do that, you see. He will be taking the doses that I mentioned there all along. The ten days’ course. It doesn’t vary at this time. Just carrying along on Guk for ten days.

The other way it can be done is that the person is just checked up, so you are sure he is moving on the track. And then you say to him, “The file clerk will now present the engram necessary to resolve this case. The somatic strip will go to the beginning of the engram and begin to sweep it and the file clerk will continue to present engrams until all the engrams in the case have been contacted and erased.” Now, I am showing you here it’s not a magic incantation. It has very little to do with toadstools. We have at least got it out of that stage. Now, here’s the file clerk, and the file clerk will, if a person can move on the track, the file clerk will present the somatic. Now that is done on a person who’s lying down on the couch, yes, but the analyzer doesn’t have to follow it and doesn’t pick up perceptics. No perceptics except pain. Now, that’s what we are trying to get off of this. We are trying to reach under the engrams and pull the somatics out, throw the somatic away. And, of course, the case will audit very smoothly.

Now, you start this thing going automatically in this fashion, it may go—if, of course, he’s stuck on the track, you just have to start in Standard Procedure and work him loose. But the second you get the thing going where he is moving on the track, you give that order that I just gave there, and the somatics will start turning on and he will lie there and lie there. “I wonder what that was? Gee, that’s tough.” And the next thing you know . . . And then suddenly, “Oof!” And, for the next ten days, this poor preclear will present the strange appearance of sitting someplace in a public place and suddenly say, “Ow!” The way people are going to look!

Somebody will be talking to him very pleasantly and they say, “I ran a funny engram the other day. . .” Because these things are restimulated. Because these things—a person will be saying to him, “Well I was running this engram, and this girl was saying, ‘I can’t get out, I can’t get out.’” And the person, “Go on.” “I can’t get out. I can’t get out.’ It’s gone. That was a tough one.” The case will run automatically as long as it will run. We have observed that they start in, when they are badly out of valence, they will start in with very light somatics, if any. A case has had to get down and really think, “Have I got a somatic? Let me see. Be quiet; let me see.” That case will run somatics along in that fashion and then the command somatics, the somatics which are confirmed by his own command so that they appear to be Mama’s in his valence, those little light things will start running out and they will run out and he will go around for a day or so and, “This Guk—nothing to it. It doesn’t do anything.” What happens is nothing very sensational, but he will get up about the third morning, and he will say, “Gee, that’s the funniest thing. I have never had a somatic like this before.” And he’s starting to get his own somatics. It’s sort of rolled him out, sort of rolled him into his own valence, and he is getting the somatics which are really in his own engram, and they’re starting to punch him around. And it’s a tough bunch that he will get on some of these things, but the great satisfaction which some of these people express when they’re busy running these half murderous somatics—they’re really wonderful to behold.

Now, it’s a very strange thing, the analyzer does not follow the somatic strip, doesn’t pay any attention to it; but at any moment—which is to say any hour or so, the case may be running just splendid for twenty minutes or three hours or something like that, with somatics going on and off through the case. The person goes around doing what he wants to do, anything in particular, and now suddenly there are no somatics.

Now, it’s up to his auditor—and he should have an auditor somewhere on the other end of the telephone or someplace—and it’s up to his auditor to check him, and to check him in this very esoteric fashion.

Now, you want to get these things done, because it’s very difficult. You say, “Give me a yes or no on the following question. Are you moving ?” And you get a “Yes,” at which moment the preclear— “All right, all right. I just asked. Give me a yes or no on the following question. Are you moving?” And he says, “No.” So, you then say, “Give me a yes or no on any one of the following words. Holder? Bouncer?” Say he gives you “Yes” on a holder, bouncer—and by the way, I am giving you a procedure that would be used by professional auditors. I am not giving you the procedure to be used out in Yokelville. “Evader, misdirector, misfit?” Whatever you want to ask him for in the way of phrases. These other ones are just cooked up. “Denyer? Bouncer? Holder?” You want to know what it is there that the somatic strip is suddenly upon. The file clerk has put it out there, and it’s there, and the somatic will stay rather constantly on it, or perhaps there will be no somatic at all. But, something is being held forth there, and by just flash answers the auditor should get what it is. And he shouldn’t play too much repeater technique on this fellow, when the fellow can run in a—to a slight degree—in an automatic fashion. That is to say, he can flash himself. “Am I moving? Yes.” You will be surprised. You get an active answer. You can flash yourself on almost anything. Try it some day.

Now, a person can’t repeat himself or hang himself up too terribly on the track, but these people who do this super automatic job of running all over the track with the analyzer, you see, analyzer goes this place, the track goes that way and so forth. Actually, the person running this automatic with the file clerk and somatic strip is running automatic, not auto, you understand. The difference is that “I” is in present time. “I” isn’t paying much attention to this, except as an external observer. “I” thinks for a moment. He probably remembers the time he was sunburned on the back of the leg, or he backed into the red hot Coleman lantern. He recalls that. He doesn’t have to think about it. What we are running is the tension out of the somatics.

Now, there is the auto running. The person has to be checked. You will find out occasionally that the person may even have to be audited after a couple or three days go by. The one thing the file clerk never understood is that you have to go early, which is another piece of information. He doesn’t know that you have to go early. That’s what’s peculiar about this file clerk. He can give you the one necessary to resolve the case, but you have to tell him to go to basic-basic. You have to tell him to give it to you.

Sometimes a very savvy file clerk has been sitting around back there listening to Dianetics and he says, “What the hell. Let’s look. By God, there was some stuff down there.” And the file clerk, ordinarily uninstructed, doesn’t pick up the earliest moment. You have to tell him the earliest moment. And you can do this trick, by the way. You pick up somebody who has never heard of Dianetics, and you lay her down on the couch, and you say, “There is something there that will help us out. And it will now give us the earliest moment of pain or discomfort,” and—talking very mildly about the thing—and she starts running conception. Yes, it’s quite interesting. People say, “Well, of course, all is delusion anyway.” Anybody who says “All is delusion” is in bad shape anyway. “The whole thing is imaginary.” What wonderful imaginations people have on the subject of prenatals. It’s really gorgeous. Particularly those psychotics that are lying around in institutions, curled up in balls. But aside from that, the file clerk doesn’t always give you the earliest moment. You have to ask for the earliest moment. So, when you are running on Guk, the thing you have to do is request the earliest moment, naturally.

In Dianetics, we are not sparring around wondering, “I wonder if I can believe it, because it’s not right to believe it after all, because they didn’t say so . . .” Hell, no. You say, “Give me the sperm sequence.” And the guy gives you the sperm sequence. And he may give you a delusory dub-in sequence. And you let him run it for a little while, and you say, “Let’s find the ‘control yourself.’ “ And he looks it over for a moment and says, “Oh, yes. ‘You have got to hold down your emotions.’” Yes, he runs that a couple of minutes, and the first thing you know, there is conception. So you run it.

Now, you have to sometimes—in fact, probably all the cases so far have had to be run down to the bottom of the track. Now, you tell the file clerk, “Give us all the moments of pain or unconsciousness up to the present time.” He will miss a lot of them. And it exactly parallels what happens in a case erasure. All this phenomena occurs in automatic processing. You tell him, “Go forward to conception,” and it will hang up. One case hung up with just a little scrap of unconsciousness, which was left with emotion. A little somatic was still down in conception and the case got three quarters of the way up and hung up. There wasn’t a word in it or anything, just a little somatic. And another case was audited to the extent of slamming into his own valence every time he got out of his own valence and when he got to the end of it they found out that the morning sickness chain was still there. Well, he had to run the morning sickness chain.

In clearing a person, too, that’s not an oddity. A person will apparently swamp all the way up to three or four years of age, engrams stop running, and you find some grief, you find something else. Now, Guk has been observed to take grief off some cases, and in some cases it’s been observed to lead them there.

At the end of the running—we are not exactly sure what procedure should be laid out at the end of the run. At the end of the ten days a person should be kept on a reduced quantity of this stuff, but right before he is audited, and he should be audited then a couple of hours at a crack. Straight line memory, fill in all the blanks, go back and run the engrams, get unconsciousness off the case, straighten this case up, because it’s mainly going to be very affected, apparently, as far as we can tell, by an alleviation of the somatics, which makes the case a bit easier to run. It takes the tension off the case.

Male voice: When you go back and swamp the case up, then do you get all the perceptics, words, or have they blown off in the air?

You know that when you are running the first out, you merely ask for holders, bouncers, denyers, misdirectors, you know, the standard run of stuff is all you ask for. Other things, you pay no attention to. You are not looking for any aberrative phrases. You are just keeping that thing moving. That’s all that you want to do, keep the somatic strip moving. So there is the computation on Guk.

Now the method which will be used, probably—there will probably be several methods, and this method will probably even vary. Frank Hulswit is the acting Research Director at the moment and he is starting some people in on this. And if you have got problems about Guk or questions about Guk, I would advise you to get in touch with Frank. He is the local expert.

Now, the file clerk will run every somatic in the whole case from preconception right up to present time, but occasionally the file clerk isn’t smart enough to know what’s down below, so you have to tell him to go there. That’s the point I was bringing up. The only interruption of automatic is that occasionally the file clerk will start hanging around postpartum, monkeying around with late-life stuff, two days old, late life. And you have to tell him to run on down there and get that stuff.

Now, don’t tell the file clerk, he doesn’t move; but do tell the somatic strip. Tell the file clerk to tell the somatic strip. You are talking as if you had an internal auditor. He audits just fine. I had a demon circuit observation of this. A demon circuit suddenly came up. The somatics turned on and held there for a minute. The preclear said, “That’s funny; that’s funny/’ and ran off a few lines that were the basic of a demon circuit. He was eating dinner. It presented itself and he repeated it two or three times, just these words happened to flash there and a somatic was there. He repeated it two or three times and the somatic went away and all of a sudden his head was clear for practically the first time in his life. The demon circuit had been an occlusion circuit. But don’t expect too much of Guk. It can do this, it can accelerate and has accelerated those cases to which it has been applied. It can promote this automatic, well, approach to clearing, and it can fix a case so that the case won’t hang up anyplace on the track, suddenly. It won’t freeze up; you can run a late engram, for instance. You could probably run a birth in Guk in a person without hitting the lower stuff. You probably could. I haven’t tried it, just from what I observed.

Now, whether or not it leaves the person healthy, strong, moral at the end of the run is something which psychometry can tell us much more easily, on which testing can be done. Some testing has been done that indicates that evidently this takes place. But anytime I sign my name on the bottom of a report I want a flock of case histories behind it. Good solid ones, so that we are not off the groove anyplace. We have got to think on medical case histories. We want a series of about twenty on this Guk.

Male voice: Running automatically in Guk, do the somatics come back sufficiently hard enough so that you can tell a person they had better not drive?

Don Rogers mentioned that on the phone yesterday. He said, “A person that’s on Guk, if they’re getting very bad somatics, and so on, would probably do well not to drive too much, I guess.” And I said, “Well, I guess you may have a point there.” And he said, “Yes, I guess so. Well, are you going to warn people about it?” And I said, “Well, yes. I guess that we might say something about it.” And I said, “Do you think it’s dangerous?” And he said, “I don’t know.” And I said, “Well, I guess that I don’t know.” “But from what I observed,” he said, “nobody passed out and the necessity level was able to pick up at any moment. And the analyzer does seem to notice what the . . .” Don said, “I don’t know.” And I said, “I don’t know either.” So there’s your answer.

Male voice: When you open your preclears with this Guk on the couch, what is the procedure for getting them up on their feet and . . .

He wants to know what the procedure is to end the reverie session, is that right? You just don’t feed them “cancelled/’ By the way, let me make this point, since they missed it for two days back at the Foundation. After I gave them a procedure, they washed out, they missed this one utterly, that you can ask for flash answers from the person when his eyes are open, he is standing right in front of you or he is sitting down or he is reading a newspaper or playing bridge or something. You don’t put him in reverie. You don’t tell him to close his eyes. You don’t install a canceller. You don’t go through any of the bric-a-brac or reverie at all.

You say, “Yes or no, moving?” And he gets a flash. And you say, “Holder? Bouncer? Misdirector?” and he says, “Evader, yes.” You get some cases with strange flashes from the file clerk and you say, “All right. I will count from one to five and snap my fingers and the phrase will flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-five.” (snap) And he will say, “I don’t want to do this. I don’t want to do this. I don’t want to do this.” You say, “Are you moving?” “Yes.” Male voice: What about all your conversations? What about all the conversations prenatally and so on?

Now, I tried to cover that there when I said the case had to be swamped out. You understand that there are really not very many conversations going in prenatally. Papa and Mama, if a person has a bad prenatal bank, are pretty aberrated, and aberrated people run off phonograph records. Furthermore, there are only so many words and phrases in the English language.

You start to run cases and you start to pick up “I see a cat.” And once you pick up “I see a cat,” you blow up whole series of locks of “I see a cat.” You deintensify all the way up the case, all the way up the case. So it evidently blows locks and occasionally on the sixth or seventh day a person has been observed to suddenly look at—be restimulated for a minute by something, and then blow a whole chain of locks. Boom! Things sort of tear up.

This is about all I have to say, and I have held you overtime now. I would rather, now, that you didn’t go tearing off into all directions on the subject of Guk. Adequate channels exist, will be expanded, are being carried, to take care of Guk. And you are going on it. We want a psychometry before, and one after. You will do that much for Dianetics research, I know. And, furthermore, we want to know who is on Guk and who isn’t on Guk. It will make some difference in a person, you see. Some of you haven’t audited very many people, and you would make an adjudication on this as to how a case runs, and the case is all Guk’ed up. Thank you.

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