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'''Series:''' 4th Advanced Clinical Course (4ACC)

'''Date:''' 25 March 1954

'''Speaker:''' L. Ron Hubbard

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And this is the third lecture of the day, March 25th, 1954.

Our general level of auditing, here, has been operating from a secure process. You've had a lot of material, which are faster, better, plainer, more simple processes. But you're operating from a security. The most basic security you can operate from is Self Analysis. You can run that on a preclear just as it is and things will happen with the case. Takes a long time, but it's still a security.

Now, that little book does this kind of stuff: let's take the next-to-the-last list, let's take the End of Session List, let's take "If the preclear appears upset," any of those lists in the back there, plus a few of its mock-ups, and we can quite routinely bring somebody's communication lag into a more rational period.

Now, you know, I have to tell auditors this every once in a while, because I don't seem to be able to tell them enough. I can't tell you often enough that Self Analysis is a security. Yeah, I don't seem to ever have really been able to inform anybody of this. This is mainly lack of experience on the part of auditors. They react much, much too easily to the state of a case.

A guy comes in, he's all frantic, he's all frantic and the auditor is all frantic; he's got to have a fast process that'll fix up this case in a hurry because the guy's frantic! No, no, no—see, that's Q and A at work. The auditor's just running lots of Q and A. It could get so bad that the preclear shows up and seems to be running very calmly so the auditor runs a slow process on him. That's not the kind of a process you'd run on a calm case. You run a real fast process on him—zing, zing—real heavy, real fast, real zippy. Yet the person looks pretty easygoing and pretty calm and so forth. Well, you wind him up into a fireball, right away.

Now, this is the mystery behind why people have a little bit of trouble auditing somebody from certainty of exteriorization up to Theta Clear. They see somebody sitting there calm, not moving fast, not nervous, not jumping around, nothing very desperate. And they go ahead and use zephyr-sunshine processes that are—this case needs fast auditing, rapid auditing. He needs all kinds of things done: needs a Grand Tour—gave you many examples of that early in this course, by the way—needs a Grand Tour; needs Exteriorization-Interiorization. I also gave you many examples of it many weeks ago. He needs a tremendous lot of Change of Space. He certainly needs all of his auditing peeled off and then he should have any kind of Beingness and Universe Process that you now know about run on him. I don't care how calm he looks, how good his case level is, see? You just throw him the book, throw it at him fast, give him the toughest ones and keep it rolling.

Well, now there's such a thing as finding a case in apathy with a slow communication lag and so forth and giving him an apathetic process. That won't do any good, either. I mean, you talk in apathy and give apathetic processes to an apathy case and so forth and he'll just be apathetic.

What are we heading toward? We're heading to an increase in speed, increase in communication lag up to and, we hope, including instantaneousness. We're trying to get up the speed. So you just keep the guy rolling, always a little bit faster. And if he suddenly slows down on you, he must have hit something head-on. You better find out what he hit, where he hit it. Speed him up again. You get somebody who has a very good communication lag, he's doing all right, and all of a sudden he's got a fifteen-second communication lag—he's walking around with a fifteen-second communication lag. You certainly better find out what happened to him. Something happened to him to slow him down.

Well, quite ordinarily this is what happened to him: somebody noticed that his communication lag was increasing and decided it was the wrong process to run on him. Now, you take almost any process—will change the communication speed of a preclear. Now, what you want is a change—faster or slower, you want a change. It's the change that you're looking at. And if you continually change his communication speed, boy, you're auditing him on up the line at an awful rate! But if you just get the same communication lag, same communication lag, same communication lag, same communication lag, you're not doing anything for him at all. And if you're getting same communication output (that's another measuring lag), same outflow from him, same outflow, same outflow. This fellow's never had anything to say to you in sessions, he merely agrees with what you said, he doesn't do anything—all of a sudden he starts talking like a magpie! You've got a communication change, that's a cinch.

Now, this person has been talking like a magpie so that you could get in an auditing command, maybe every fifteen minutes. I've audited cases that were as bad as that—an auditing command every fifteen minutes. People who were passing for completely sane people. They're there to be audited and yet they—you just might as well be faced up to a fire hose. What they're saying has no bearing, really, on the case—they're just chattering. It's a compulsive outflow. People who pass for very sane people very often do this. This is a tough case to audit. You try to get in there enough to give them a command so that something will happen. This is beautiful. Opening Procedure will work against this. They can go on chattering all you want to, but if they know they're supposed to be moving the body around, they will wait for the next command.

So we get this compulsive communication—really nothing to do with the case, they just go on and on. You had this going on for quite a while and gradually the person begins to slow up and finally they're just doing a response. Just doing a response. Now you'll find them outflowing again. And then they are just doing a response. And then they clam up and don't say a word. You just ran past the barrier. They're not even giving you a response to auditing commands; they're just sitting there.

Well, unless you created this by beating them down or getting angry with them, so forth—you're just doing routine auditing and this type of communication change takes place—you, of course, are getting somewhere with the case. And with one of these compulsive outflow cases, if you don't eventually hit just a stop on communication, you never went through the wall. It's like aviation trying to go faster than sound and never going through the sound barrier—you just stayed this side of the wall all the time—because they're on an invert. And they're going to come up through the deep spot of whatever they're stuck in before they come out into the clear blue sky. And that deep spot is going to be an utter communication apathy. See that?

So you're going to get communication change—outflow-inflow changes. But mainly speed—speed of response, so on. This is one thing they can't fool you with. They might try to fool you two or three times. This is even better—as far as fooling somebody is concerned—is even better than an E-Meter, because they think they can fool an E-Meter.

By the way, just as a note in passing, the way to keep people from fooling you with an E-Meter is make them run exercises of squeezing the cans. Make them squeeze the cans convulsively for fifteen, twenty times before you read the E-Meter at all. They'll just run out the impulse to squeeze the can, squeeze the electrode. You just make them convulsively squeeze the electrode for a while and you'll get a much quieter, even, more reliable needle.

Well, in such a wise, if you let a preclear flood communication at you for a short time, they're liable to slow down after a while. And if you'll just let them flood the communication at you and then get in a few deft strokes that don't block the communication, why, they're liable to quiet down and audit very easily. But if you start blocking their inflow, you simply knock them into that apathy barrier prematurely on your determinism, not theirs. You want that communication lag to change on their determinism with your assistance, with a few deft punches. You know where you're going—don't bother to tell them.

Well, when you're auditing somebody and this person has been exteriorized, and this person all of a sudden develops a long communication lag, well, you'd better start wondering what the devil's going on here. Well, it may be that what you're running is actually punching them through a wall somewhere. Well, their communication lag slowed down, slowed down, slowed down. In the course of a minute or two it's gotten very long and in the course of the next two or three minutes speeds back up again. You've just gone through one of these, you might say, a lag barrier, a communication barrier of some sort. You've walked through some kind of a beingness. Right at the deep spot, if you ask them what they could be with ease, they would give you some kind of solid object, right away, bing.

But let's say that you've been auditing somebody who's been exteriorized with some certainty and you audit this person with a ten-, fifteen-second communication lag for a half an hour. Mmm-mmm. You're not hitting in close. Something wrong—this communication lag isn't speeding up and yet this person did have a better lag earlier. And half an hour and no speed up. No real slow down, no speed up—no change, in other words.

Well, if their case is changing, their communication level's changing. If their case isn't changing, their communication level is remaining the same. If their case is getting worse, their communication level is gradually, persistently, lengthening over a considerable period of time. That is to say, in an hour's processing their case is getting worse, well, it's just getting a longer and longer communication lag. Because it didn't ever take, with the processes we're using, any hour to get through any of these barriers. It takes a minute, two minutes.

Now, two minutes is a long time by the way, as it's used colloquially. If you don't believe it sometime look at a stopwatch go around twice and you'll say, "Where—how do I get..." Fifteen-second communication lag doesn't sound like much till you try to talk over something with somebody with a fifteen-second communication lag. Real grim. In all the gag demonstrations of lags up here, I've never gagged one as long as fifteen seconds. I've gagged one, usually, when I'd see you getting nervous—I was gagging one at about five seconds, six seconds. That's a long time.

All right. Our communication factor, then, is the one that we keep bird-dogged on. We just bird-dog that like mad.

Now, if we're getting satisfactory communication shifts, perception shifts—the preclear keeps telling you, "Gee, everything all brightened up all of a sudden," "My, everything got black," "Oh, it's all bright again," "It's black." You know, these remarks spaced out over ten or fifteen minutes of auditing, that many remarks on their perceptions, why, we're shifting this case all over the spot. We're pushing them right on up the grade just as nice as you please.

But if a case isn't volunteering this kind of information, isn't observably changing, isn't observably doing the processes you're trying to get them to do faster and more easily, the difficulty in the case is—technique too doggone heavy for the case. The case isn't what it seems, what it seems, what it seems.

Now, there are a lot of real fast ways you could bail this case out and straighten it up—yes. But there's always a security. It's very nice to operate from a security. Just Self Analysis, as writ, will do something for this case. It'll do this for this case: it'll stop the case from thinking insanely or neurotically and hectically.

Now, here's a test, a little test run of this. Probably been many a day since you ever cracked any Self Analysis on somebody because "you're a professional, remember, doing a lot of auditing on people." The very funny part of it is there was many a time when you were trying to do something for a case when you would have been much better off simply to have reached over for a copy of Self Analysis. Your case, fifteen minutes later, would have felt in wonderful condition, would have gone home feeling good. That's because Self Analysis is non sequitur. One of the first things it does is break down the sequence of a thought chain which a person is obsessively pursuing. It's so non sequitur.

Now, if you were to take the same process and make the story of Little Red Riding Hood—you know, "Let's mock-up Little Red Riding Hood coming through the woods. All right, now let's mock-up the Big Bad Wolf. Now let's mock-up Grandma. Now let's mock-up the woodsman," this case would go, nyebh, nyehh-nyehb—getting worse. Sequitur. Because you're insisting upon logic. Well, the fact that it is non sequitur itself would markedly assist differentiation.

The next thing is, what's ailing your preclear? We know about facsimiles, we know about image pictures of experience which get into restimulation and, because they have somatics in them, because they have perceptions in them, devil a preclear and push him around and so forth. We know this mechanism of facsimile. Well, something makes them, and they're being made all the time in present time by some kind of a machine. Self Analysis takes over the mechanism of making facsimiles. So don't look down on that little process, because it runs the handiest, jim-dandiest louser-upper machine that a fellow could get.

Now, supposing the individual can't get any mock-ups at all. He just gets some vague idea, that's about all he gets. Do you know that Self Analysis is feeding him havingness one way or another—one way or the other it's beefing up the bank at that. Now, just take space. It creates space. Having a mock-up out there is an assistance in creating space. You're doing a tremendous number of things simultaneously. Yes, it's just got an awful lot of side effects, one right after the other. And yet, apparently, all you're doing is reading this nice, quiet little list.

For instance, the formula of it is start, stop and change. So it hits directly at control—directly hits at control. The individual has things out of control—otherwise he wouldn't be worried. Start, stop and change is control. That's its formula.

All right. We take that, we read a dozen mock-ups out of it to the preclear, just like that—they're non sequitur. Because you're working with the preclear, you're liable to give him sequitur mock-ups on his case. And certainly we've got to break some kind of an obsessive thought chain here; we've got to break this down somehow. Well, the easiest way to do it is not because I writ up those mock-ups for you. The easy way to do it is, you're sitting there auditing the preclear, you know his problems, you've gotten to thinking about his problems—you're liable to give him a whole flock of mock-ups in Creative Processing. They'll help him a lot. But his case may be, at this period, too far south to use Creative Processing on. He may be too bad off to use Creative Processing on. What you want to do is break up an obsessive thought chain and get him into some kind of condition so that that machine that's making the facsimile that's butchering him is more under control than before.

And there's a list, which is just an arbitrary list, which—you don't have to be different than the preclear in order to think up one. You don't have to think about that, you don't have to make sure it isn't something the preclear's stuck in, you don't have to think about that at all—you can relax too. You just read a half a dozen mock-ups off to the preclear.

Well, I've run test after test on cases that ran like this: "You know, I've been auditing this preclear for an awful long time and this preclear is just all upset all the time and so forth. And I just don't seem to be able to get anyplace on the case and I've just got to do something, I've just got to do something because this preclear's just frantic all the time!" You know? Here we go!

I say, "Well, send the preclear over." Okay. Sit the preclear down. Open up the back of the book at random. "All right. Now, let's create a scene in which you're making something. Now let's create a scene where you bested somebody. And now a scene where you bought a hat." Case starts getting calm. Turn over to the next-to-the-last list, "Something really real." Go back, a few more mock-ups. Been working with this case only twenty minutes and the case isn't frantic anymore. Close up the book, lay it up on the shelf. Shake him by the hand and send him back to their auditor. "What process did you use?" The auditor never believes me. Never.

You know, there's a certain skill in using it. It's the skill of being able to say, distinctly, exactly what you mean, to be calm about it, and if you're really a professional and you're using this process, you be calm about it. And all of a sudden you say, "Create a scene in which you're driving something."

All of a sudden he says, "I… I do, but it keeps flying off to the corner of the room." "Well, okay."

"Yeah," he says, "but it just flies off to the corner of the room. It's very bad." And you say, "Okay. Now, let's see..."

The skill is to restrain yourself. Because, listen, if this case is in bad shape and you try to duplicate that action several times, why, you've plowed the case into some kind of a charge.

I know one case that I think, to this day—to this day, can't mock-up an airplane. And yet every time we even came vaguely in the vicinity of a vehicle, the vehicle would go out of control. Never handled it.

But I was running another case that couldn't handle a mock-up of a vehicle, same time. I was running a bunch of pilotos—pilots. And they were all shot up and bunged up—you know, standard government-release-type pilot. And these boys get a mock-up of a machine and the machine would go out of control. Well, I took this boy and I tried by Creative Processing to put a machine under control. You know, I never succeeded. And during all the time I was working him, trying to make him do that, he was just going down, down, down, down. He was actually crashing. I couldn't seem to handle anything with him—he was too far gone. He was neurotic, he'd been wrecked about five times and been through two wars, including the Korean. And this was too much. And all of his force vectors and so forth were too scrambled on the thing. He couldn't handle a mock-up.

Now, by Creative Processing, by automaticity, on a case that wasn't bad off, of course you would handle this as an automaticity: you would bring it under immediate control, get him to mock-up a machine that was under control. You'd do it by gradient scales. You could do a lot of things like this, see?

But we're talking about a case that's frantic, now. A lot of things. You just walk into this case that's frantic, you get him to do a few mock-ups or remember a few things that are real. It's very interesting. They stabilize. And one neurotic girl—she was passing for a responsible citizen, a college student—really was so frantic she couldn't sit still long enough to be audited. Just frantic. You know? Had to sit in study hall too long or something of the sort too long. I ran some Self Analysis on this kid, and fifteen hours of very good auditing did not do as much for this case as twenty-five minutes of Self Analysis quietly and efficiently administered. Now, that's interesting. But it breaks up their obsessive patterns.

I know you think I'm talking too long about this and you know all about this. But the fact of the case is it's been a long time since you thought of picking up a copy of Self Analysis to remedy some preclear that was too frantic to be audited. You're dealing from a security.

Now, supposing you get your preclear in restimulation, he's got migraine headaches or something of the sort and, by golly, these get worse. You just grab ahold of a copy of Self Analysis and you'll bring him out. He can hold his own in the MEST universe by running it. That's all it'll do for you. It'll just permit a guy to hold his own. See? Now, that's a valuable thing.

And you happen to be operating from another security. And this security is SOP 8-C. It is easy to administer. It contains most of the factors that you're using. It doesn't contain Beingness or Universes, really. But it contains these sort of obliquely and on an understood basis and will clip at them rather heavily. If you were to sit down and run on a preclear Opening Procedure of SOP 8-C and then Step I and then Step II and then Step III and they weren't exteriorized, do Step I, Step II, Step III. And they weren't exteriorized, do Step I, Step II, Step III. And they're still not exteriorized—this case, you'd say, was real bad. You could still, then, without any further thought go on to IV, V, VI, VII and VIII. And then go back to Step I and they'd probably exteriorize. This is a way to pick your way through.

Now, SOP 8-C was developed along with the experience of over a year of actually watching 8 in operation, here and there. I watched 8 in operation, finally modified it. But I only modified it after two Units had gone through the Advanced Clinical Course, watching them use it. And boy, it's not as rapid as a very nice choosy case of auditing might possibly be. But, believe me, it is more rapid, much more rapid, than anything we have ever had. And it is, right now, producing rather interesting and effective results for practically every auditor in those early Units who are using it. And they're using it in those early Units.

Now, I've come along since that time and compounded and put together, inside of 8-C, a lot of other considerations. And one of the main things that I put in there has been Old Man Universes. Beingness and Universes. Now, the granting of beingness made it relatively unnecessary for an individual to run the past, I mean, the second we had the concept of granting of beingness—l got that, it was not necessary to run the past.

All psychotherapies have been running the past, running the past, running the past. You can work a lot with granting of beingness very cleverly and never touch the past at all. An individual is obviously granting beingness to the past consistently and so he makes it alive. How does he grant beingness? He hands out space and energy to things, doesn't he? So he hands out space and energy to the past and so it comes alive and so devils him. This is how the past comes to life. And unfortunately there's an awful lot of energy which is just right there, which has to do with past locations. Well, one theoretically could grant beingness, then, to things which were not associated in the past and so arrive at a goal without taking the past apart. That's a theoretical course. You could simply audit the future straight on down the line and get there.

Holding two back corners of the room is also a security. That puts a person in contact with present time and puts him in contact with the physical universe. And it's been a long time since he was there. It might take an awful lot of time to run this out to Clear on every case you ran across. But, by golly, Case IV's and a lot of V's have simply banged out of their heads, simply holding on to the two back corners of the room.

I know one auditor who gives very satisfactory sessions and everybody's very pleased with this auditor's sessions. This person deals with some society people and they're just all pleased. And do you know what this auditor's doing? This auditor reads some Self Analysis to them, to keep up their interest in life. And then has them sit and hold the two back corners of the room. And they'll sit there at twenty-five dollars an hour and hold the two back corners of the room—interesting, isn't it? They bang out of their heads and they—all kinds of things that they just know were wrong with them suddenly become "unwrong" and that sort of thing. Well, they're getting into a universe they haven't been in for a long time, which is the physical universe. Well, the physical universe is still one universe wrong for the thetan, but by golly, it's about eight more universes right than most of the cases you're going to run into. Now, that's a very distinct consideration.

So we get into this Six Steps to Better Beingness. You'll recognize now, in Six Steps to Better Beingness and looking at 8-C and looking at the various factors in 8-C, you'll see that the six steps are an introvert—extrovert method of handling the preclear's attention. And you can do a lot with Six Steps to Better Beingness. It'll carry a case along a certain way. And it won't carry a case above a certain level. A case can probably run on Six Steps to Better Beingness for many weeks, rather consistently every day, many weeks. And then they'll hit a level; they don't go above that level. Well, what have they run into? They've run into, very squarely, a conflict of universes one way or the other, in terms of the physical universe. What they've done to a large degree is run themselves out into the physical universe. And so they're hung up one universe wrong. Which is still better than eight universes wrong.

All right. Now, therefore, Six Steps to Better Beingness comes up to that level and hangs fire. It comes out to the MEST universe, of course, and it won't go above that level. That's quite a ways, that's further than the First Book took anybody. But you can go further than that.

Now, what I've been teaching you more recently is—I feel that I would be short-circuiting some of the purposes of this Advanced Clinical Course if I failed to give you the available information while you are here. I may have bogged you a little bit here and there or made you a little bit worried or uncertain by demonstrating to you and getting you to use some very advanced material and then showing you how you could use it better once you'd got used to using it. Remember that you didn't need this material at all. You didn't need it at all. You haven't needed anything since 8-C. You can do more miracles with 8-C than anybody did in the Middle East. I mean good, factual miracles, not stuff rewritten several times. You can get a nice invariable result. All you've got to do is get the preclear to hold still long enough for you to get him moving on your course of action with Opening Procedure. And you've got it. You'll go along on that.

So as far as just practice is concerned, just practice here and there on people, you could get along on 8-C. Now, you can produce results with 8-C. It is easy to use.

Here's another question: How do you produce a faster result on the worst cases? Well, now we're trying to push you up toward a hundred percent. I suppose 8-C in expert hands, knowing about machines and knowing about other things, 8-C in very expert hands and so forth possibly can produce that. Very expert hands possibly could produce the 100 percent. But I've looked at the expertness of the hands and found out that we were still falling short 5 or 10 percent with most auditors with 8-C.

Well therefore, it was a question of universes, so we had to go into a better process. I've had that under surveillance, here, for some little time. And I've sprung it on you: Beingness and Universes. Once you wrap your head around this, human behavior becomes rather interesting. It becomes the behavior and interaction of universes. Any man is a god of his own universe, according to every other man. HC may not think so himself, but everybody else thinks he is. Now, he may be holding down an enormous conflict of universes—lots of them. Nevertheless, Mama is the big voice in Mama's universe. In other words, when in somebody else's universe, the owner's postulates count. Now, that is a crudely stated law back of Universe Processing. And it's why postulates are booby-trapped as a process. Postulate Processing is booby-trapped—it's booby-trapped by universes. You see, you're in Mama's universe and it's Mama's postulate that counts.

Well, you can get out of Mama's universe. You don't have to make it so that none of Mama's postulates count. See, there'd be two ways to go about it. One would be to simply fix it up so none of Mama's postulates counted and while remaining in Mama's universe. Well, that's a hard job, in view of this other law, because it's Mama's postulates that count in Mama's universe.

The easiest way to do it would just be to back the preclear out of Mama's universe. The second he's out of Mama's universe, Mama's postulates don't count. This is the only process I know which escapes the necessities of havingness. Universe Processing exceeds this problem of havingness. Beingness doesn't quite, but Universe Processing does escape the remedy of havingness. You have to have because others have to have and you're in their universe. See that?

Now, the way you run this process is by various means, by Beingness Processing and so forth. You can with great ease detect what universes in this lifetime your preclear is enlodged in, that aren't his. Well, let's look at the obvious one he's in that isn't his. Now, he can say it's his, he can declare by postulate that it's his, he can do all sorts of things about it being his, but the fact remains that the physical universe observedly isn't his. He didn't make it. He made a universe which approximated it, but he didn't make it. He might have had a share in making it, but he didn't make it. So he's in one universe wrong from his own universe. Right? If he's in the physical universe.

Well, hold your hats on a type of process like this, but "Get places where the physical universe would be safe"—I'm not asking you to do that right now. But just ask a preclear to get places where the MEST universe, the physical universe, would be safe. And on some preclears you're going to be producing some awfully volcanic activities: they get sick, they get woozy, they get disoriented and so on.

Well, if you were to ask somebody this who was in the physical universe and then in about fifteen other universes too, and you were to ask them to get out of the physical universe —which is to say, find places where it's safe, of course, you've just picked up this chain of agreement at the wrong point and he will struggle and fume. He yet doesn't have the ability as a thetan to clearly observe the physical universe. You've got him sitting in a body and being evaluated for about the physical universe by a body.

Well, this is catastrophe. You picked it up at the wrong point, in other words. I don't say that you couldn't run it and get away with it on people. But I know it's been tested and the test on it was very clear: You'd better get him out of the universes he was haunting in this lifetime in addition to the physical universe and get him cleared up on that before you try to snap him out of the physical universe. In other words, return his perception of the physical universe before you try to clear it out of his bank. At least let him know as a thetan what you're trying to clear him out of.

That's a strange thing, that a lot of preclears that you're running are being so thoroughly evaluated for by their eyes and ears and feet and hands, so oriented by the body itself, that it's just as though their mother was standing there telling them what to think and what to say and what to hear and who to go with and where to be and so forth. How would you like to run a preclear that was living twenty-four hours a day with his mother right alongside of him saying to him all the time, "Now, this is what you eat, Johnnie, and this is where you sleep and this is what you now need and that's what you're looking at and that's where you are"—how would you like to audit a preclear that had been under that kind of a bombardment for some time? That would be an interesting preclear, wouldn't it?

Well, it's possible, it's not as tough a problem to audit a thetan who's been evaluated for by the body like that, but it's the same kind of problem. The body's sitting there saying, "This is what you're looking at, this is where you are, this is what you've got to do, this is what you need, this is what you're now sensing." The body's doing this twenty-four hours a day, asleep and awake. See that? Now, he's sitting there with the body doing it for him, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. So he's already thoroughly in the body's universe. And the body is more than thoroughly in the physical universe. It's engulfed!

So how do we take this problem apart? We'd certainly better take it apart in terms of last to first instead of first to last. Let's take the last universes he got mixed up with and let's make sure they're real gone. And then run it on back.

One of the first universes you would pick up on some auditor would be the Scientology universe. Now, that's a heck of a thing to have to say, but the truth of the matter is that the road out was entered by this universe called Scientology. See that? I mean, that was the road out. But we take up the last universe first. It's all right for a preclear; he's not in that universe. See? But an auditor who's been studying it and is running it for a while is to some degree in that universe. And he doesn't feel entirely free in that universe. I snarl at people for doing things wrong in this way and that way, so he isn't entirely free. The effort of people who suddenly take Scientology and call it "Hexaphonics" or something is just an effort to escape the Scientology universe by forming another universe which they then pretend is not the Scientology or Dianetics universe. Totally unsuccessful effort. All they had to do is, "Let's see, let's find some places where Scientology would be safe." I really hate to tell you this, because if you get a process which runs out Scientology and runs out me and so forth, why, this is horrible, see. I mean... [laughter] Just as far as you're concerned, you see, why, I just lost all that MEST, lost all that havingness the moment I give you that process.

Male voice: True nobility.

Yeah, it must be, must be. I'm either in apathy or I'm real high-toned to do something like that. And, obviously, by my communication lag I must be in apathy. Anyway...

When we look over the problem, then, of under what universal anchor points has the preclear been existing, we look it over as this problem, we immediately see why it's so real, real tough to edit the psychology out of a psychologist by a little auditing. See that? See, we get this fellow who spent four years in Sing—I mean, four years in Harvard or something and is studying psyrology and then we try to teach him Scientology. Why, gee whiz, he's already in one universe, and we're trying to reach him in there, like with a little stick or something, kind of poke him and wake him up. So this becomes a tough job in the absence of a process that would itself remedy it. Now, "Let's find some places where psychology would be safe," "where your psychology professor would be safe," "where your textbooks would be safe" and so forth—theoretically would do the job of putting him back to battery so that you could reform him, so we'd get someplace. Because he's in a tough universe in psychology, and you don't have to run down psychology. It's like, I think it was Oliver Hazard Perry, wasn't it, said, "Don't cheer, boys, the poor devils are dying"? Who was that that said that? Oh, he said, "Don't give up the ship." Anyway, that's beside the point.

Here's a case of somebody who's gotten into a level of healing which dead-ends. It dead-ends. The reason he got into psychology in the first place is he had somebody around him who was having trouble with his mind, possibly, or he was worried about himself or something like this, and he decided he'd go study psychology. And then he studies it and he expects anytime now, when he gets into experimental, oxtripidental or goofology or some branch of it in his later courses—you know, psychology 815 and 816—that he's suddenly going to hear something that he can use. And, of course, they finally hand him his doctor of philosophy—you see they haven't even got nerve enough to give him a doctor of psychology. They hand him his doctor of philosophy after about six years and the fellow walks out and says, "What fog?" He never ended his cycle. He's lived in that universe all that time with no end. This is a tough one, then.

All right. There's guys that have been doctors in their past lives. There are fellows that have been good practicing witch doctors in their past lives. But they still didn't get to first base. These are universes which the guy eventually comes out of, but they're more in his own universe than his present time.

All right. When we have a snarled-up mess of universes, then, the rule of thumb would be to take the last one first. Just a rule of thumb—could be exceeded. And try not to stray from the beaten path until you've got that one totally safe. You know, you've just found all the places you possibly could find that were safe and it's eventually sprung. You know the phenomenon of its springing apart. You've got this set, then.

And to markedly resist the impulses to go chasing back down the track—markedly resist these impulses. Because I've been watching a case running on this that was permitted to go—I've watched about four, now, that were permitted to just rack around and fall into this and fall into that and stumble elsewhere and fumble, stumble. And they're getting better, but they're getting into scrambles of universes which are worse to unscramble than otherwise. But still, you could go back to the beginning and start all over again with them. But you'd find out there was a lot of extra work done, there, that needn't have been done.

You start to get rid of these fellows' universes, well, let's get rid of his university education; let's start in something like that. "Well, get some places where the university would be safe." Some more. Some more. Some more. I know of two cases, one of the toughest cases we've ever audited, down there in New Orleans, remember? That boy, if you ask him that question, "Get some places where the university would be safe," it would be "Right here," because he's stuck as a sophomore in that university. He's just stuck right there. It was the first world he found he could belong in and so forth and there he was; he's never left it. Holding on like mad.

Well, let's discover something like this about the preclear and one of the clues we would get on it would be in Beingness Processing. Now, why are we still talking about Beingness Processing? Well, darn it, it's awful hard to get anybody to run anything who isn't certain of anything. He has no real feeling of certainty about being something or having something somewhere. He hasn't any good feeling of certainty about life and yet he can sit there and tell you that he is certain of that. But how does he know what certainty is since he has no dichotomy of it?

You fish around with Beingness Processing, all of a sudden he says, "Yeah, I can be something—well, what do you know!" That feeling of certainty which suddenly overcomes him. He can arrive at one point in the track, he doesn't have to rack all over the bank all the time. So you run a little Beingness Processing on the fellow, it picks up his level and recognition of what certainty is.

There were people in this Unit right here who didn't really know what certainty was until they suddenly hit something that they could be. And then they had a good certainty on it. "By golly, now, what do you know?" There is some sensation like that, there is a feeling like that. See? That sort of thing takes place. Well, a case that would be very, very uncertain and fumbling as far as their bank was concerned, that wasn't improving, you weren't getting good communication lags on him—if you turn around with Beingness Processing, you find out you get a change in the case. You're going to move him in the bank, that's what you're going to do. You're going to move him into and beyond one of those stop points, fairly rapidly.

So, if a case was pretty well off and did know certainty and would get a communication change, you could just strip the universes off just zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom and never have to worry about beingness. But beingness itself is always something that you can do to improve the preclear's perception. His ability to be is the best ability he has: it's his basic postulate.

Well, anyway, we just move this guy on-off, out of the universes. As long as the University of Pepsi-Cola is the universe in which he's living, he is still subject to the president of Pepsi-Cola University's postulates, the dean of men, the athletic coach. That's their universe. It isn't his universe. He knows this. And so he can run on just exactly the same line of stuff. You take some poor guy that has really haunted a universe—he's become a professor. You know, he knows he'll never be president—they use businessmen to be presidents of universities and guys that can make money and get in good contributions. Those are the presidents. He'll never be very much in terms of the university itself, he'll just keep fogging along one way or the other and somehow or other may get up to be head of department someday. But he's living in a universe he knows isn't his. He's studying continually from books he didn't write; he's hammered this way all the time. So it's a strange universe and he gets into a swell "Where am I?" condition. It's natural that science would proceed after universities had been the order of the day for about five hundred years. You'd naturally get into a scientific period where everything had to be deduced only after you had seen the evidence of it. That's after the fact.

All right. In stripping down the universes off of a preclear, you're dealing with, just as in Beingness Processing, something that requires a certain sensitivity on your part, a certain feel. Now, if you keep changing your mind about what universe he's in without ever cleaning up one, you'll get him tangled up.

Well, let's say we just started in and made a big, blundering, stupid error right off the bat. We decided, in so many words, that he was in the universe of General Outboard Motors, because he'd worked for the plant for a long time. And we decided that's the universe he was in. As a matter of fact, it never affected him one way or the other. But he's been kind of unhappy about it. That's not the universe he's stuck in. He's stuck in his wife's universe. Well, we just missed the boat and so on. And we discover after he's run this some time that nothing is happening and he's kind of unhappy about it and he doesn't seem to be progressing and something's gone off.

We'd better be alert to something else: Do you know that he will only find real safe places for General Electric or General Outboard Motors or whatever you're running—he'll only find good safe places alongside of the ally whose universe should be run. He'll clip into this. Several of the places he will find for General Outboard Motors will be locations where that ally you should be running is. Such as his wife. He'll find out that General Motors or something is safe in the backyard garden, it's safe in the kitchen. This he'll repeat several times. Safe alongside of his wife. His wife is the indestructible dragon that we're gunning for.

So you could pick your way through. But remember to stay late. And try not to go earlier past this lifetime until you've exteriorized him and then go where you darn please.

But as long as you've got him next to the body and you try to exceed this lifetime with your auditing and he's still in a body, why, you get into trouble.

Well, that requires judgment then, doesn't it? So, it's rather a feeling that anytime any technique requires judgment it sooner or later will resolve into something that doesn't require judgment. I'll come up with some handy, jim-dandy little thing that knocks that out of it. Well, that's probably true of this process. But not necessarily. Because we run into the factor that every individual is an individual. Everybody has a different time track than every other person. Everybody has. And it's like trying to run the track of an engram track: everybody's in a different type of engram. Well, this is not as bad as that. It doesn't anywhere near require as much judgment as it requires to pick up the engrams out of the case and run those that are in restimulation. Much easier to run this.

And so for that, although it does require judgment, I know it's a successful process. I know more than that it's a successful process. I have been using this now and watching this in use for some little time. And, by golly, it is the horrible fact that it is the universes which are interlocked with the universes that really counts with the preclear. The postulates he's subject to are the gods of the universes he's stuck in. And this accounts (or the vagary of some cases just escaping all understanding. Strange behavior, strange valence shifts are accounted for by this —universes.

But I will tell you this, some months ago when I first triggered into this one, I got sick—I was sick for about a half an hour on the realization of it. Because, you see, it had never really occurred to me before that life really was downward-bound to a solid mass, that every life unit, even though an individual, simply became more and more individual and finally perished. I never really, really knew that. I used to guess at it. It just seemed logical that on this reducing perimeter that things would get smaller and smaller. Well, I realized this, and it was too tough, so I decided to disprove it. I decided to do a lot of looking. And I did a lot of looking before I started talking much about this process. It's why these processes consistently work, and why they get people someplace is because they are looked over before they're wildcatted, released and so forth.

This horrible view presents itself: the thetan is, with his own universe, actually a fairly good size. He comes into collision with the MEST universe one way or the other and finally runs down a bit junior to the MEST universe. He comes into collision with other universes, these things further entangle him, because each time he is subject to the orders of the god of that universe. And he gets down in size, he gets more compact, he has less periphery.

You see that? He gets smaller and smaller. He begins to learn how to do things in the physical universe, at best—learn how to do special little operations inside the body. So he becomes a cell or he becomes a collection of cells. From being a liver he becomes a cell in a liver. And from being a cell in a liver he becomes something on the order of a virus. From being something on the order of a virus he goes down into being something which is on the size of an atom. And then goes down to the level of an electron.

This is quite interesting. But where are many of the lives of yesteryear? You see them strewn around you in the rocks, in the plants and in the various forms of existence which are. Now, this evidence seems to consistently confront one. There's a certain terror in it. The main terror of it, though, is to think of the men of yesteryear being only part of a body of this year. It seems to be such a distastefully vicious operation that one doesn't wonder that somebody invented the "horn of Gabriel" which would let everybody free someday. Strange that that one gets bought so easily.

Now, this dwindling spiral, of course, can go in spirals. One can break out, I suppose, from being an electron and go down a spiral again. But each one of these spirals seems to be smaller. The between-lives area gives it a boost and pushes it along. But the ethics and the things which a thetan basically wants to believe and so forth aren't here. So anybody who is talking religiously about you going to hell after you die is talking through his hat—you're in hell right now. And that is the operation of condensing on the basis of resistances. The MEST universe gets you to resist and so you pull in more to resist and so forth. We are breaking that downward spiral. It can be broken for the individual. And an individual, by regaining beingness, can break the chain on others.

Now, this is all very much out of gear for me to say anything like this, because this is the introduction, into the subject, of a personal opinion. Now, oddly enough, you seldom hear me, particularly the last couple of years, introducing personal opinions so much, other than to joke about psychology and so forth. I don't give you personal opinions. This, to a large degree, is personal opinion and yet it is not without some evidence.

The breaking down of the thetan into lower and lower forms seems to be the progress. Now, that is vastly assisted. But it can only happen because the god of the universe is the person who makes the postulates stick in that universe. That's the only reason it could happen.

Now, we look over breaking down universes and we find out that an individual can be sprung back out of universes he has entered into. Well, he springs out of the MEST universe the same way. Now, there are many people who want to know how to escape the MEST universe. They'd love to escape the MEST universe. They hate the place and so on. Well, this is your road out: "Where would it be safe?" You take parts of it and find out where they'd be safe and then the whole thing and find out where it'd be safe, and the fellow would be sitting outside of it the next thing he knows. But only after you've peeled off those eighteen or twenty universes that he's been into after the fact.

It's a slightly complex problem. But this is departure from universes. Now, nothing was ever truer than the Doctorate tapes statement that one should make his own universe. But when one is living eight universes removed from a universe he can make, it's pretty hard to construct, in that limited field, another universe. It's all very well to enter into auditing, but day by day the attentions and attractions of one's fellows and the physical universe itself distract one from an escape, you might say.

One shouldn't even think about it as an escape. I don't know but what with these processes and what I've been telling you particularly this week, we are not kissing the MEST universe goodbye as a universe. I do not know but what we may not have sounded the bell for the end of this thing called the physical universe. I don't know that. This is obviously the prime goal of science—the ending of the MEST universe. Science concentrates continually upon trying to blow it up. But I don't know but what we haven't done that.

Just what will come out of these processes on a broad view on all the dynamics, who can say. Who can say. But it certainly won't be insignificant in terms of impact, because any knowledge which escapes into the world of Man is utilized one way or the other and whether labeled or otherwise, seems to carry on, so, my main effort during this week may have proven slightly overburdening to some of you. But I've piled on an awful lot of data awful fast, here, the last few days. Don't be disheartened by it. You're still sitting on Self Analysis and you're still sitting on 8-C. You've got that for a good sound foundation to stand on. Certainly, SOP 8-C.

Well, I've been pouring on the coal here and I hope it hasn't set you completely adrift.

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