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'''Date:''' 15 July 1950

'''Speaker:''' L. Ron Hubbard

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. . . in other words, we think of it as a single-track railroad. It’s not Russian, it’s American. It has many tracks and there may be a half a dozen engrams on one track, and there may be 585 on another track and 22 on another track and 66 on another one. And it doesn’t mean that they’re all on the same chain, either. This engram bank really gets misfiled. That’s about 90 percent of what’s wrong with it, it’s so thoroughly misfiled that nobody can get into it to get any data out of it. It gets jammed up.

We start this erasure from the bottom; we go to the next moment of pain or unconsciousness, the next moment of pain or unconscious, we’re erasing each time. Unmistakably erasing, running it over from the earliest moment of it.

We walk back up the bank, clear on up as far as we could get. And all of a sudden some incident will hold too tightly, something of the sort. It means there’s earlier material on the thing. We go back. Now let’s get the earliest moment again, and we’re liable to find ourselves down early. We are actually now ready to walk up this compartment of the track.

They won’t look like this to you, this is just an illustration. You don’t have to be concerned with compartments on a track. Because all it is—earliest moment of pain or unconsciousness, earliest moment of pain or unconsciousness now available, earliest moment of pain or unconsciousness now available, so on. You just go back up the track like this.

The file clerk will give you whatever he can lay his hands on there that’s early and will erase. All of a sudden he sometimes will let you know that he can’t do this anymore by handing you one that really sticks. And at that moment you stop and go back down and go up again.

When the case won’t proceed, the file clerk is quite clever if you just ask him, “Now give us the incident which is necessary to resolve this case.” And you may pull birth all of a sudden, although you’re only halfway up the prenatal bank. And you run birth and oh my God, more material breaks into view than you can erase in five or six sessions.

As you go along with this, by the way, you may become dismayed to discover the large number of engrams in every engram bank. There’s lots of them. Nobody stinted man as far as his ability to get engrams. There are actually thousands of engrams in almost any case, but few of them are of such intensity that they are sufficient to stop a case running. And as the case comes down the line to the last—I’d say the last half of the engram bank erases on a one line recounting. One, two times. Go over it once, you go over it twice again, patient starts yawning. Because more and more attention units are present, more and more force and strength is there in basic personality and the next thing you know, why, basic personality—just take one of these engrams and woomf! And just recount the thing along—next one up, next one up, next one up. Once in a while stop to yawn, do something. I’ve recounted sixty, eighty engrams in a two-hour session during erasure.

That’s very late in erasing. I don’t think anybody here will be there for quite a little while although a lot of you are on erasures. There are quite a few present who are doing erasures, aren’t there?

Yeah, here’s one erasing. He’s erasing, Bob is erasing. Haven’t you got Dr. Turner erasing? Hey, whoa! Aw, his case was wide open the last time I looked.

Male voice: It’s erasing. This stuff is dropping—falls apart there. What we’ve hit has had quite a bit of charge on it; it doesn’t erase with only one or two recountings.

Oh, no.

Second male voice: Takes about six.

Oh, to erase.

Second male voice: And then it erases.

Oh, that’s tough. (laughter) That’s really tough. Some people always want a dime for a nickel.

Second male voice: No harm if you can get it! (chuckle) Okay.

All this is not astray—I’m just saying a few words here about erasure because I knew I had to interject this tonight because I know there’re quite a few of you on erasures. Next moment of pain or unconsciousness, next earliest moment of pain and unconsciousness, next earliest moment, wham, wham, wham.

Male voice: Can you check on whether you’ve got basic-basic or not? You ask for it and you get it . . .

Uh-huh. You ask for it, get it and erase it. And then you ask for it and you get another engram and you erase that. And down there at the beginning of the bank—I’m going to take that up this evening—you get sometimes a condition where you will erase eight, ten, twelve engrams and you’ll know damn well one of them was basic-basic, but which one it was, you don’t know That condition is common. You’ve erased a whole lot of engrams in the basic area and you can’t get back that early anymore. You know basic-basic is out of the case. Because the first ten, twelve, even twenty engrams in a case will sometimes erase. Any one of them—you could hit any one of them and they would erase.

Male voice: They’re all basics in themselves, aren’t they?

Well, to some degree. You get down to the bottom of the track there and they’re not dependent on each other. They’re erasing independently and if we had a good accurate check on them, perhaps if we followed closely and asked for age flashes and so on, we’d get some idea. But even those age flashes aren’t very reliable when you get down there and ask for age flashes in terms of minutes or seconds. Time magazine was very concerned over somebody having gotten an engram two minutes after conception. They were asking about it on the phone. Wouldn’t they have been dismayed to have found fifteen engrams ten days before conception. (laughter) Want to give you some quick data here on some various things so that these erasures that are proceeding will be done properly. I want to make sure that we’re getting a good solid run at it. I want to talk to you for a couple of minutes about the characteristics of unconsciousness and engrams.

The—go over this quite rapidly here, [marking on blackboard] Here is an engram and the width of this demonstrates the depth of unconsciousness of the engram. And here we have content, and it says, “Get away.” All right, it’s a blow, “Get away.” This is an impact engram.

There are actually two types of engrams and the two are combined into what might be called a third type. The third type is the operational type found in exodontistry, particularly. There are other kinds.

All right. This type of engram is a single impact engram. This can be multiple. There can be several impacts, bang, yak-yak, bang, yak-yak, bang, yak-yak, bang, yak-yak. And by the way, awfully interesting Americanisms and Anglo-Saxon four-letter words in some of these. I ran one not too long ago that was a masterpiece. I’m sorry I can’t quote it. (laughter) Now, when we get this engram—and this is in relation—when we get this engram, we tell the somatic strip to go to the earliest moment of this engram. Mind you now, the somatic strip is under your command, the file clerk is at your services and working in cooperation with you. The distinction between those two: you command the somatic strip, you work cooperatively with the file clerk.

Now, you have asked for this engram, not by text, but you just ask for it as “the engram necessary to resolve the case at this time” or “the engram which we must now have” or something like that, politely enough, and you get it. And here is the somatic strip.

Now, apparently the somatic strip will swing in to the front part of the engram and we’ll get the words “get away” Now, the phrase and so forth, the somatic strip gets into here [taps blackboard], and you still get “get away” Because if you take the patient back and let him sit there for fifteen or twenty minutes waiting for that first phrase to leak through somehow, even when the patient has sonic and is returned to the moment of this engram, he doesn’t get sonic on it. So the best way to get that engram is to snap the engram through as an impression; repeat it, run it and it’ll sometimes take a recounting or two of these impressions to turn it into sonic when you’re working in the basic area. So don’t expect that engram to be in sonic just because you told the file clerk to go there. You want to (snap) snap “The phrase will snap (snap) into your mind, the phrase will appear (snap) in your mind,” or “you will know (snap) the phrase,” something like that. So we’ve told it to go there and it does, it goes there and gets the impression of “get away.” So the fellow says, “Get away” and we go over it once. Pretty good. Now if we say to the fellow, “All right, let’s go back to the beginning of it now” he goes back to the beginning of it. And it’s “Get away,” and he goes over it again.

Return him to the beginning of it, “Go over it again.” “Now let’s return to the beginning of it again. Now, go over it again.” Now we say, “Okay. Let’s go to the next moment of pain or unconsciousness.” All of a sudden this case is boggy, we don’t quite know what’s wrong with it. There—right here, is “splat!” But we haven’t gotten that. Maybe there’s a sound of footsteps. If you’re working a nonsonic, don’t worry about these sounds, they’ll come out in the wash. But there’s splat, jar, kinesthesia, and the impact right here. And that isn’t out of the engram. So it’s at a place like this—you see, you wouldn’t know that that’s still there. You would have no clue to it until you start to go on and as you get up the bank a little bit further, all of a sudden for some reason or other this stuff is all tied down and you don’t know why it isn’t lifting. So what you do here is use the time shift and this is where the time shift is most applicable. You say, “Let us go thirty seconds before the impact.” Now, we know it’s an impact. “Let’s go thirty seconds before the impact. It is now ten seconds before the impact, five seconds,” and the guy will go whom!

We start him into the front part of the impact. So, we’ll get that, now we go over it again—that—that—[marking on blackboard] you’re getting before on that impact. That’s one type of somatic. A pressure somatic builds up, down like this. This is in that very indelicate chain, the bowel movement chain. And Mama says, “I’m all stuffed up.” Now we’ll run this thing, we get the first phrase. So now this is depth of unconsciousness here; the somatic strip in this case goes to about here. [marking on blackboard] We get this first thing through by impression and we get “I’m all stuffed up.” “All right. Let’s run it now.” “All stuffed up. All stuffed up.” Oh, we run it here, we get a sequence there, and apparently we have . . . [gap] The engram is held up, the whole thing, with this. You’re fighting against that, therefore a shadow of this can appear later. You come back to this engram you think you’ve erased about three days later, and you’ll find a little shadow of it, yet the front part of it is off. So again we go back and let’s get the first moment of it.

The other way to do this is to walk backwards. You’ve asked him for the first phrase. What you’ve gotten there—the somatic strip gave you the first phrase it could reach. And you say, “Now let’s go to the phrase before the one . . .” something like that. Walks forward; we all of a sudden discover that here we have “God” sitting here. “God, I’m all stuffed up.” Now, there’s no “splat” on the front of it, but there may be a word concealed in here. So we’d have an engram here then, sitting here, if we left it, which just says “God.” And it would have pain on it. And that, I’m told, makes atheists. And that’s bad. So don’t leave these words in here! So we get this phrase and we knock it out from the front end of it. Now, you’ll discover sometimes that an engram chain of impacts looks like this. A BM chain can, by the way, be twenty of these things. And you can get into the last five of them and then ooomp. But when we try to move much earlier in the thing without erasing what we have our hands on, we’re getting engrams so far away from the source up here—this may have had a holder in it—so far away from the source, we’re sort of losing the whole thing. The person’s getting very confused. So you may have to take the tension off the rear end of it here and treat each one of these impacts as an engram. So, just doing a small line of the thing [marking on blackboard]—that sort of a picture. We’d get in here toward the last end, and we’d say to the somatic strip to go to the first moment of the engram. Well, each one of these things is an engram.

Don’t get confused about the fact that each one is a separate moment of unconsciousness. Now, the zygote, cellular state there of the individual in this stage, will become unconscious and become conscious again with great rapidity.

By the way, if anybody’s working the basic area and has a somatic here, don’t believe him that he’s in the basic area. You go on and run the engram all right, but he is either out of valence with somebody else’s somatic, or he’s up there at five, six months. Because the cell doesn’t have a forehead to be impinged.

In the sperm sequence, however, you’ll occasionally get the sperm being hit on top of the head, hit in the face. You’ll get it down in that area. But that’s a sort of a squash. It’s not sharp. Any sharp pain in the basic area, you’re not there. All right, so this would be an allover somatic, be in the basic area.

Because you’re on erasures, I’m trying to give you the data and review the data that you need to keep these erasures going. They’re not going to stop on you in any way, but just want to make sure the way is as easy as possible.

So, I was just commenting aside; don’t be deluded about this. These basic area things are generally pressure somatics except in the sperm sequence, when occasionally you have a head somatic or a face somatic. The ordinary course of activity is anything but the sperm sequence, these basic area engrams are allover pressures or allover burning somatics.

It would be impossible, practically, to put a drop of water on the cell, at that time, without it covering the whole cell. It’s too tiny. It’s microscopic, what we’re dealing with here. All right.

Well anyway, we get these series of pressure somatics in the bowel movement chain and it’s down in the basic area, and tell the somatic strip to go in here and it arrives at that point. And at this point we have a “Don’t come in here, I’m busy.” And so, “Don’t come in here, I’m busy.” Well, you start running this and you’ve found out this “Don’t come in here, I’m busy” and you feel very clever because this is really the denyer, and you start out and start to erase it. Still faintly there; gone over it two or three times. Now, you’ve gone over it two or three times; that’s necessary. But if the thing doesn’t fade out, you might be right there in the basic area. You might be.

With a little time shift—”Let’s go three minutes earlier”—you all of a sudden pick up another pressure somatic. Or by simply backing the person up, phrase by phrase, to one phrase earlier than this—“The somatic strip will now go to one phrase earlier than this.” All of a sudden, why, it’s “child.—”Damn that child. Don’t come in here, I’m busy!” Oh well, this is yet not the whole engram. But it deintensifies a bit. You reduce it down and now you shift the somatic strip back again, one phrase earlier than this, and we’re liable to get it back in here—Mama’s really having a conversation with little Isabel who keeps pounding on the door.

So, we get back here and all of a sudden, time shift and by moving backwards, we pick up this one, right there. All of a sudden, bing We’ve got this one. Now we knock that one out. Now, don’t neglect to run the whole thing! Because we run the whole thing, and the whole thing will go out on you. If it’s really going to erase, it will walk right out on you at that time. But it wouldn’t have, so long as it had something immediately on the front of it. Don’t become annoyed because you seem to be getting stuff late and think that the somatic strip isn’t working with you. The somatic strip is going as early as it could get at that moment. And you’ll say, “Go to the first phrase.” We are assuming then, and do assume, that it did, but we don’t also assume that there is no phrase before it. It’s going to the first phrase it can get to.

Male voice: When one can make certain of—there was no other con-tent, does one rely upon the general direction of the file clerk: “Is there any other content to this engram?” Don’t.

Let me caution you against asking the file clerk to play swami for you. The file clerk is very cooperative and he’s perfectly willing to do things, but you say, “Are there any engrams before this?” and he says “No,” so you say, “All right.” Sometimes you’ll get yes. All right. You don’t believe the no particularly, but the yes... “All right, give us a number, how many are there?” (snap) “Five.” There are actually ten, but you say, “Five. Let’s go to the first one.” Maybe there are five. The file clerk’s really getting down to work then. The file clerk in perfect working order, in good communication with you, the somatic strip working perfectly, will give you the exact information. But the reason you can’t always rely on whether or not you have exact information is you may have clipped a control engram, just ticked it. And all of a sudden the machinery has gone a little bit out of alignment on you.  File clerk is always working perfectly, somatic strip is always working perfectly, but a control engram has thrown into activation a circuit there you didn’t suspect. So you can watch this, you know by practice that the file clerk has been working for some time, he’s been working well, you keep trusting his data, you use his data. His data is always useful. But there might be, in a case which has been running pianola, a sudden reactivation of the control strip.

That’s why I say don’t 100 percent rely upon this because something can invalidate and make it incorrect. You follow me on that?

If he keeps giving you engrams which will resolve the case, if you keep running engrams out which will resolve the case, that’s really what you want of them. But you say, “How many more times over this do I have to go . . .”—I heard this one one day—“. . . in order to erase this engram?” (snap) And of course we get “None!” And “Nope, don’t need to go over it any more.” Now, this question should absolutely be ruled out with the file clerk: “Is it safe now to leave this engram?” (snap) You almost always get yes. And it’s not safe to leave them until you, by your observation of the patient—the patient will tell you—“I” will tell you, not the file clerk, but “I” will tell you how the somatic was the last time through. When that somatic is gone, there are only words left and you’ve gone over the words once more or twice more after the somatic was gone, maybe you got a couple of yawns and maybe you didn’t, and you’ve still got words there, you can assume that you’ve got a reduction and it’s probably not going to erase. Content hasn’t dropped out of it. An erasure goes by bits. A phrase will stay one more counting than another phrase—it’ll go out raggedly, unevenly. So, not to carry you too fast along this line; I sort of feel that you think I am.

Male voice: May I ask a question?

Yes.

Male voice: You said just now that it’s not possible— “Is it safe to leave this incident?” Right.

Male voice: How about when you re getting close to the end of the session and into emotional content, can you say, “Is it safe to park this until the next session?” No.

Male voice: “Can we leave it there for a while?” No. Nope. Because you’re asking the file clerk to be a swami. You’re asking him to predict what’s going to happen if you go away from this thing. He can’t tell you. That requires computation. And he doesn’t compute. All he does is hand out data. Don’t do that because the answer is invariably yes.

You’ll run a fellow through one of these things where it’s just a screamer. And then ask him, “Now, the file clerk will tell us whether or not it’s safe to leave this engram.” “Oh yes, yes. It’s safe to leave this engram.” He’s been going like this all the way through the run. Just make a test on it a few times. And “I” will occasionally, in a knowledge of Dianetics say, “Oh my God, no. We’ll have to do it again.” “I” may say so, you see? But you ask for a flash on the thing, answer is yes.

You’re asking for a prediction. Prediction: what will happen if we leave this engram? So don’t ask the file clerk questions which have to be answered with a prediction, because you’re going to get a lot of false data; you’re going to walk away from engrams sometimes that by one more recounting would erase.

Now, you can tell, as an auditor—and there you must skill yourself in observation—you can tell as an auditor whether or not this incident is deintensified, what this incident is going to do, whether or not you have a safe reduction, whether or not it’s an actual erasure, whether or not you’ve been beating away at a recession which isn’t going to do anybody any good.

Yes?

Male voice: I’ve found a fairly valuable phrase you can use as a spot check on whether an incident’s reduced or not You ask the file clerk to send the somatic strip to the beginning of the portion of the incident that requires the most reduction, and then watch the somatic. It is pretty well reduced if you . . .

Yeah, a file clerk will do that.

Male voice: You can usually leave it . . . But it’s your computation that’s making the file clerk do that.

Male voice: Well, you re watching the somatic . . .

Yeah, yeah, if you’re leaving it up to your judgment. Don’t leave anything up to the preclear’s judgment. It’s not reliable. And don’t leave anything up to the file clerk’s judgment because the file clerk is just a file clerk, he does not compute. That’s why he’s called a file clerk. He handles no policies for the firm.

Second male voice: How many other clues are there that there s something ahead in a series like that?

How many clues?

Second male voice: Yeah.

A hint is that you’re not getting a very fast erasure, erasures are going rather slowly You can get an erasure but it’s sort of pounded out. Another one is a type of incident which you know didn’t start “just there,” I’ve talked to you about dialogue sense, haven’t I? No? No, by George, I haven’t, [gap] . . . dialogue sense is a definite clue as to this. You know that a fight doesn’t start with, “Goddamn you, I’m going to kill myself” Somebody doesn’t walk into a room and say, “Goddamn you”—hits his wife and says, “Goddamn you, I’m going to kill myself” No, it took a half an hour of bickering to get up to this one. And probably there’s some more somatics early in the thing. So you just start looking for the earlier part of this engram. That’s dialogue sense.

By the way, in the line of dialogue sense: it’s perfectly possible to run dialogue which doesn’t sound like anybody else is there, whereas somebody else is talking. Have you ever heard people that go right on talking in spite of the fact somebody else is saying something?

Well, this is just as true in engrams, Engrams are right out of life. And you may have this person running one valence of the engram. And if you don’t ask for another valence, “Is there somebody else there?”—and by the way, the file clerk will give you this one ordinarily—”Is anybody else present?” (snap) “Yes,” “Name?” (snap) “Mother,” Okay, in the prenatal area a person would be very strange not to have Mother present there, (laughter) But I have occasionally found people running engrams where they walked off with Papa, And you could get several engrams sometimes on some patients—not very common— particularly when the conception won’t reduce, you can sometimes get engrams on the series of eight cellular divisions that precede conception in the sperm. And you can sometimes get it in the ovum, across on the other side too. And then you really do have Papa walking away.

The first time I ever met this thing I said, “Oh my God, now I know I am going mad.” Yes.

Well, the sense of dialogue there is quite important. Cases have hung up because the auditor was not sharp enough to realize that somebody else was present, I’ve even seen cases where questions were being asked and then obvious objections were being made to a reply. And still the auditor didn’t suspect that there was somebody else present, somebody else filling it in.

Of course, you will find this condition with a monologuist. If Mama is rather—well, let’s be polite and say neurotic—she may be going from one valence to the other arguing with herself, talking with herself and sometimes will even take a third party conversation on the thing. And is asking herself questions and giving herself answers. But that is still distinguishable. Mama may be shifting through valences but the child is not shifting through valences; definitely not. So you’ll get this in sequence. But where somebody else is present there is another valence present. And that other valence may be the other half of the engram and you’re busily trying to deintensify this engram, and you’ll run this one valence and you’ll run this valence and you’ll run this valence and nothing is happening. Actually you will always get the least aberrative valence first.

Ordinarily that’s a good rule of thumb to go by: You’ll get the least aberrative valence first, or you will get that valence in which the patient chronically is for that area of the track. Not grammatical but it’s . . . Now, you’ll get that valence. But the valence which was really aberrative along this track here is the other side—is the one you want and is the one that’s really causing the aberration. That might be an ally. And so I have seen auditors run out the nonaberrative valence and be perfectly happy to leave the engram and then wonder why their preclear was having a hell of a time. Because they’ve left half the engram, and the most aberrative half of the engram, right there. And they say sometimes, “Well, the thing will not reduce, I just can’t get an engram to reduce in this case, I don’t know why,” And of course the preclear’s been running nothing but Mama, straight through. And Papa was one of these sympathetic fellows who wouldn’t say very much, but when he said something, it really stuck, rrrrrrruhh! That’s . . .

Yes?

Male voice: As a matter of personal experience on that thing, I find that when I’m running pretty early stuff that I have a tendency to only want to give one half a conversation because that’s the half I’m interested in.

Mm-hm, Male voice: And I have the record on the other, but Marion has to insist that I give the other person s talk. And I will do that very obligingly. But if shell let me go, I’ll just run one conversation. I’d go back and run the other one if you want me to.

Sure, Male voice: But I like to run it without the answers, because I’m interested in that one.

All right. You’ve got a condition there where you want to run all valences out of an engram. This is very pertinent to not only erasures but deintensification of one of these muscle jumpers. This class has had some experience with muscles jumping; lots of tension on one.

Well, you can get a person into an engram where he has lots of tension, he has lots of tension on this engram and he’s so solidly in the valence that it requires quite a bit of persuasion to get the other half of the conversation. But the muscle tension won’t reduce till the other half of the conversation is procured. So that’s all under the line of dialogue sense. Writers are having pretty uniformly good luck in Dianetics. John Campbell was scouting around for the reason, and he says, “Why, it’s dialogue sense.” They are used to listening to what people say, and they’re used to writing about it so they will plot the conversation. Not make it rational particularly but at least fill it in where it has obvious gaps. So they’re listening to context. So listen to it as you would listen to dialogue which you would expect to be not rational, certainly, but reasonable in its text. Unless of course Mama has five valences which talk to each other.

Yes?

Female voice: Can you place any confidence at all in the preclear’s asides, I mean . . .

Oh, you mean the sideline—you mean the sideline thought lines? You know, I’ve had a person running engrams with a sideline computation going on about airplanes and about, gee, he’d like to go have a hamburger and so forth. And he’s running this blood and thunder1 proposition, he’s running it through, he seems to be perfectly interested in it and keeps running this line over here.

People are usually out of their own valence when they’re running engrams that way. That’s interesting comment on it. They’re usually out of their own valence when they do that. It’s a good clue.

Male voice: It’s often profitable to run that later.

Yeah. Very definitely. Find out what he is thinking about while this thing pours through. You may discover more data on the case. He may just think that this material he’s thinking about, which is going on in his mind while he’s running the engram, has nothing to do with the engram, whereas it may be intimately associated with it. And just knowing what he is thinking about while he runs the engram may give you more data.

Second male voice: And is he out of his own valence—could have a somatic but no pain?

No. He’s running somebody else’s somatics. There are many ways to tell whether a person is out of his own valence or not. It just happens that he has a very strong sideline computation when he’s out of valence. Everybody has some slight sideline computation going on. You really want to get a strong one, have the person clear over here.

Actually, “I” is thinking and going along, rather uninterfered with by the valence which he’s running. Sometimes a person will run out engrams and whole dialogue and conversations. He’ll run out actually hundreds of engrams out of valence. And ordinarily you don’t disturb him. This is particularly true in a coffin case.

The coffin case is so thoroughly out of valence and so thoroughly held up someplace on the track that he can run without emotion, without anything, the most hair-raising scenes. They don’t bother him any, he’s dead!

Male voice: Well, is he actually running them?

Sure.

Male voice: And they’re reducing?

Oh, sure. He’s getting a little somatic. He’s getting his own somatic, too, a little bit sometimes. Of course he isn’t getting any moisture and he isn’t getting any sound and he isn’t getting any emotion and it isn’t really painful. But he’s running them and they are somatics. And it does do the case good to run them.

Don’t, because a guy is out of valence back on the track someplace and running an engram and the somatic is very mild, don’t go off and leave it. Because that thing has been kicked up and you will have to reduce as much as you can get your hands on. Otherwise the whole case will go for a spin. And the only serious louse-ups I’ve run into have been occasioned by failure to reduce the engram which could be reduced. And by the way, the most aberrative one to leave unreduced is the sperm sequence.

Male voice: What is the sperm sequence?

Conception. Haven’t you run conception out of anybody yet?

Male voice: No. (snap) That’s easy.

Now, a coffin case is very, very specific. A person is in a valence which has died. It’s very precisely something. You get a person lying like this. A person who is dying and has a hot brick put upon his stomach, he’ll be going like this and he’ll be moving around with it till he’s—then you weren’t running a real coffin case and you haven’t located the incident.

He’s out of valence. The valence he’s in is dead. There’s a holder on the track at the moment of death. It’s as though life had plotted up some means of continuum. Well take up valence commands here in this course before we’re through, but in much more detail But you see, people get commanded into valences. And the old folks’ idea that “He’s just like me, he’s my very own boy, he’s the spittin’ image of me, you know that. He’s not a bit like his father, he’s like me,” that’s Grandma talking. And Grandma is somewhat sort of setting it up so that when she kicks off, she will go on living.

It’s a shadow existence. This shadow existence is a valence. Only it’s a valence which is a complete carbon copy of Grandma; not a demon circuit, a carbon copy. All right. Grandma dies when the child is four years of age. All right, the valence will come up here and then charge.

It charges up on the grief level and you get a good valence wall in here, the person gets on that side of the valence wall, the charge is right here at the death. He’ll start running engrams like this, or like this, sometimes like this. But always straight out with never a toe twitch, nothing like that. He’s dead. Now, that’s easily spotted but it’s not as easily resolved. Because he’s out of valence, which makes it difficult to reach, to get somatics on it, to get emotion on it. And he’s probably got an emotional shut-off, he probably has some “control yourself” circuitry which is getting in his road. And in short he is pretty hard. But there’s some part of that you can reach. The usual part of it is to start cracking down on “he’s just like me,” the valence shift commands in the case.

Female voice: But how does he know it’s Grandmother if she calls herself “me”?

Well, that is a superior computation as far as the reactive mind is concerned, but it is the voice tones.

Female voice: They go around then picking allies that have that voice tone?

Yes. Yes, but you understand that Grandma says, “He’s just like me.” It doesn’t take much computation—that’s a superior computation to the reactive mind.

Female voice: But it’s in the reactive mind?

Yeah. He, after all, has the voice tones to match, and he has Grandma to look at and mimic, and he has a lot of other things; data that adds up on top of this valence data. So he can set up a pretty good carbon copy of Grandma, and then all of a sudden, choonk! Grandma’s death. Grief, valence wall, there he is. He goes on being Grandma.

By the way, he may not settle in that for some time until his wife, who was like Grandma, that he married, died later and this really settled him . . . [gap] You know Johnny? One of the reasons his case is very, very rough, he has about four people in the bank who are very easily confused, so he can’t get a computation on what’s going on; his wife was his grandmother who turned into his wife, who turned into his mother. That’s right.

His wife was his grandmother who turned into his mother. That was the ally computation that backlashed. He married this character that sounded like his grandma and it turned out to be somebody who was— acted like his mother. Which of course was supposed to be a pleasure restimulator, but turned into a pain restimulator. And she had a twin sister. And the voice of his father—you see, his mother’s mother married his father’s father. And all hands are present from conception forward, practically.

His father was the stepson of his grandmother, and his father was named John.

Male voice: Incredible. But Papa is Grandpa. And Mother is Grandmother and Mother, only she sounds like Aunt. So you’ve got this terrific amount of confusion; you don’t know what the hell’s running next in the case.

Yes?

Second male voice: Can I get my money back and go back to Washington? (laughter) I didn’t ask you to work on Johnny’s case!

Second male voice: I know, but there may be more of them! (laughter) Oh believe me! He’s the worst louse-up on that computation I ever saw.

Male voice: About these people who are in a coffin valence. Specifically, you run them in that valence until that . . .

You better not.

Male voice: Run them, if you try and get them into their own . . . ?

You start piling up that valence and erasing on that valence long enough, and you’ll eventually start to send the boy back to a pleasure moment and he’ll try to go through the pleasure moment, and he’s starting to get unconsciousness off of that. The whole valence starts to charge up with unconsciousness. So he’s yawning every time you put him back on the track two minutes.

It’s very interesting when you keep running a person who is severely out of valence without trying to get him back into his own valence. You get him back into his own valence. There are valence command shifters. You know, you can tell a person in present time, “Go into your own valence,” or “Go into your fathers valence.” You can do this automatically by saying, “Now, what was one of your father’s trick mannerisms?” “I don’t know” (said in a very deep voice) “I haven’t got any idea.” And you say, “Well, what did your mother used to do with her hair?” “Oh, you know, just stand there beside the mirror, fluffing it all up like that!” (said in a high voice) You can watch him.

You can shift a person willy-nilly through their valences, left and right, unless they’re really anchored with one of these restimulated valence shifters.

Now, what of course prepares the ground for a valence shifter is, “I don’t feel like myself.” That’s the key of all valence shifters. And “I got to pretend . . . It would be too awful to face if it were really happening to me. I’ll have to pretend I’m somebody else.” Or “It can’t be happening to me, that would be too horrible; I will have to be somebody else.” It’s a common one in the bank. This was most current, evidently, around 1905 to about 1915. I don’t know where that came from. Must have been some actress or something who threw this on the stage, because it sort of moves in on the scene right there, then we don’t find it much afterwards.

Male voice: Could be a song couldn’t it?

I guess it could be, yeah. But it’s also a dramatization. I find it creeping along as an aberration, but when a thing is a colloquialism of the time, it’s just sort of dreamed up. Then it goes into engrams and then it’ll settle on some family chain, and there it will stay as a chronic engram creating its own species of insanity. Aw, we’re going all over the place on this stuff.

Male voice: You were going to talk about the sperm sequence—just starting that thing off before you got sidetracked by the question.

Yeah, but let me remark on that. The valence is finally capped by—right at birth or in periods when the child is ill or upset, something physically—people saying to it, “Well, that’s all right” or “Don’t be like your father! Now, don’t be like your father” — in other words, shut off all mimicry of your father. Papa may be doing some valuable things, have some valuable skills this child needs. Now we’ll just put up a wall. “Be like me.” So on. All right. You get him shifted over into that valence. And “You’re just like your father when you’re bad and you’re just like me when you’re good,” that sort of a computation; that’ll shift a valence. Now, you tap a few of these, you shoot them out—they’re usually fairly light—and you can stabilize a person into his own valence.

The best way to get a person into his own valence, however, is to run conception. Go back down to the bottom of the track and you’ll get the person out of an artificial valence, ordinarily, at the early part of the track. A coffin case will sometimes curl up at the early part of the track, or start wiggling. And you’ve got him into his own valence at that point.

Yes?

Male voice: Suppose you notice by the somatics that the preclear is not in his own valence, should you immediately tell him to go back into his own valence everytime you notice that?

I would never use the word “Go back into your own valence.” Male voice: “Go into your own valence.” I would tell him sometimes, “Shift into your own valence,” and if he obeys that command, “Shift into your own valence,” okay. Run it that way. But a smoother way of doing it is, “Feel some moisture now. Now, let’s see if we can’t feel a little pressure.” You know what the valence— what his own valence is experiencing, more or less, and we can tell if he’s out of valence because I never saw a fetus who got morning sickness yet, and so on.

There are things happening, in other words, that wouldn’t be happening to him. So you’re looking for the pressure somatic, so you try to coax in by suggesting—not positive suggestion but just suggesting—there may be other perceptions here which he might give some of his attention to.

He starts paying attention to some of these suggestions, it’s just like the fellow says, “Well, now what was some mannerism of your father’s?” He’ll start doing this: he will start to feel just a little bit of moisture, and wonder if he can feel it. Next thing you know—whip! He’ll be right into his own valence. He’ll start and he’ll swing right on in.

Yes?

Male voice: What if it keeps happening all the time?

Out of his valence, into his valence, out of his valence, back and forth, back and forth? If he obeys the order to shift into his own valence, keep him shifted in. But you are working above a valence shifter. You’re working some case where Papa and Mama used to have fights, let us say. This is one type of case. And he says, “You’re just like your mother,” only he means Grandma. “You’re just like your mother.” Or she is saying, “You’re just like your father.” Or he may be saying, “You’re just like your father” and so forth. You’ve got a valence shifter earlier than this incident you’re working.

You get into the basic area, a person has a much greater chance of being in his own valence. That’s why you try to work for the basic area, amongst other reasons. The main reason, of course, is to get unconsciousness off.

Yes?

Male voice: Must you reduce the charge in the alternate valence before you can shift a person into his own, or should you always try to shift him into it immediately?

I saw a case—let me give you the answer with an example—I saw a case temporarily, as we say technically, loused up, by shifting him out of Mamas valence when Mama was crying.

Because this was the bottom of the emotional discharge level And Mama was busily crying and the person was in Mama’s valence and began to cry and was crying along very nicely. But at about the fifteenth or twentieth tear, the auditor said, “Get into your own valence.” And the patient tried but a grief charge was not off Mama’s valence, he couldn’t make the grade, the auditor was very, very insistent that he stay in his own valence, and finally the preclear got mad as hell and wouldn’t work with the auditor for several days. And when work was resumed, why, the case was not running pianola as it had been before.

This is just a little word of warning that it can happen. If a person insists on running a screamer, you know, full volume in a valence . . . And oh, will you find that with psychotics, they get over into a valence, they go—these valences are very sharp with a psychotic. You can practically hear them click as you go past in some psychotics. And you’ll run off this rigmarole; this is Papa. And you persuade him now to run off something that Mama said. And won’t run off anything Mama said. You let him run Papa two or three more times, there’s a little tension off the thing. Now he’ll run what Mama says, but he runs all of what Mama says, maybe totally different aspect there. And maybe somebody else was present and he’ll run that. And these are all deintensified now. Now he’ll run the engram in his own valence. So it is occasionally quite necessary to take the charge off these valences. But if there is no great manifestation in these valences, if they’re not bang and so on, if it’s just mild, the person is a little bit morning sick; you know, he sits there and he lies on the bed and you say, “Shift into your own valence,” and so he goes over and curls up. Now he slides back into Mama’s valence again, now he slides into his own valence again, now he slides into Mama’s valence again. Right. You run out his own valence and it will normally pick up the whole thing.

I’m just showing you that there is judgment to be used in this.

Let’s get more complex on this though: “You’re just the same as anybody else.” You can get a person, by the way, into multiple valence, he’ll be in several valences simultaneously. That’s right, just pick out this top-heaviest one and run it.

Just like a person’s attention units can be latched up in several engrams simultaneously, so can he be in several valences simultaneously. Of course there is an actual problem of valences at the beginning of the track. And with that neat little dodge, we’ll get back to conception. I see that you’re interested in this conception sequence.

I’ve got to go back and pick up what I was talking about before though, otherwise people will get confused, me in particular. [gap] . . . this depth of an unconsciousness somatic brought about by anoxemia (lack of oxygen), use of anesthetics, nitrous oxide, ether, chloroform, any of these anesthetics; where he goes in lightly and then it gets deeper, and finally gets down to here to the depths and then starts out of it again.

You’ll find AAs in the bank once in a blue moon, where the cord is nicked by some sharp instrument and it won’t properly permit blood to circulate for a little while. And you will find that the beginning of this engram, like this impact engram, you have to—you get the moment of deepest unconsciousness and you’ll land right in the middle of it, whereas you’d land at the front end of this—near the front end. [marking on blackboard] Down here is the middle of the engram, and you’re not even going to be able to reach the context in that, most of the time.

Yes?

Male voice: Supposing during that period of unconsciousness, people who were present at the start of the thing as you were going in; they just walked out of the room without saying they were going or leaving any trace of it And you just have this blank period with no context And you find you’ve got a boil-off on your hands which cooks along a little bit, and that’s about all you find. There s no words, there s nothing Okay.

Male voice: It’s just blank.

Fine.

Female voice: Sometimes there will be one like that Sure, sure, it’s perfectly valid.

Second male voice: Well, the engram would reduce in that case, wouldn’t it?

Sure.

If you’re running the bank a little bit later with sonic and so forth, you’ll get the clinks or any creaks or groans or anything that went on in this. I want you to see the difference between an impact somatic and one of these ones that sweep in slowly. And to demonstrate to you that you have to get the very front end of this one and that you have to get the center of this one. Those are the important parts, [marking on blackboard] But as you sweep the thing out, it is most easily swept out here from the front; and the back end of it might be quite sticky. You may have there an early engram that will erase. And yet, by entering it from the back end of the sweep here, where we just have this curve again, it looks awfully sticky, and we decide this one can’t be erased. Of course it can’t be erased as long as it has that much front end on it.

Female voice: What is toxemia of pregnancy, about a month-long engram?

Hm?

Female voice: Toxemia of pregnancy. Suppose someone has toxemia of pregnancy for the last few months.

Male voice: God help the auditor.

Female voice: Well, does this—then is everything spoken in that period . . . ?

Yeah, but this is very lovely. When you have a constant somatic— let’s say Mama has high blood pressure; let’s take that one. Mama has high blood pressure here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here, [taps blackboard] And every time, people are running around being sympathetic and it’s actually hours long and heavens on earth. You first clip the thing here and have a hell of a time doing anything with it but you get a reduction.

Next one he clips may be that one. You get another reduction. Now you’re working on this, maybe a migraine headache case. And you finally get that one, and you’ve clipped that one out, you get an erasure. But it took several recountings to do so. Now you’re asking for the earliest high blood pressure moment—the earliest engram; you wouldn’t specify it. And we finally get that one. And that one maybe takes quite a few recountings to erase. Each one of these times we’re getting this terrible headache, and as he rolls into his own valence, why, we may get a little sonic on gurgles and splatters and so forth. And the first thing you know we start walking up this thing again.

I don’t say there’s only this many attacks of high blood pressure, because a high blood pressure case has lots of them. Every time Mama gets mad at something, on comes the high blood pressure. So people being mad mean a headache. So here we go up the bank. By the time we’ve got to about here, instead of having another hundred engrams to go, we just have context. We’ve taken all the punch out of high blood pressure.

Now in this toxemia of pregnancy, you take the toxemia of pregnancy, let’s say, out of the first two days of its occurrence, with more or less the context in it, you have taken out the common denominator to the rest of it and it’ll fold up.

Male voice: But I think that it’s good to know that in the toxemia of pregnancy, convulsions may occur.

Yeah?

Male voice: Intermittently at least, and you ought to be careful not to miss a convulsive attack.

Well, that’s something to know. I’ve been looking for what produces convulsions in some patients and what doesn’t in others and so forth. Sometimes patients are quite tense. Usually they’re trying to run with something of a somatic shut-off. It seems to be locked up in their muscles.

We get terrible convulsions as you run stuff. Other patients you get no somatic and no convulsions, still with a shut-off. I’m still snooping for what causes convulsions in cases.

Second male voice: How long after conception is the—or how long is it after conception before the embryo begins to reflect the mother’s blood pressure tension?

Pretty near, pretty soon, pretty quick. But particularly true when the umbilical cord gets contacted and then starts to try to blow a gasket. You have pressure on one side, and you—of course there’s no blood flowing directly through, but you sure get an influence on the situation.

Okay. Now, I wanted to get to you on this business of erasing, since some of you are on erasing. There is the factor which you need to know, that an impact may have earlier beginning. There’s the two different types of engrams. And that these two, particularly in exodontistry, may combine. So that you get impact and unconsciousness.

Now, this is the smooth administration of an anesthetic. Then all of a sudden something happens; pain is administered, unconscious deepens and so on, we can get the—a jagged picture here until it finally—the fellow’s permitted to come out of it.

This engram is really a honey, because as you run this, it has a tendency to go like so. [marking on blackboard] Here’s all the tough parts of it. And then like so, and you think, “Well hell, we must have this thing by now,” but this is a missing section down here. And then you’ll go so, and say, “Christ, there must be something, must be all going now”— because it’s all erased up here. The next time you go through you try and find that one. The moment of deepest unconsciousness is the moment of deepest occlusion of words. So you get this combined somatic.

I’ll tell you about conception now. You want to hear about conception?

Male voice: Everybody should have that Yeah, (laughter) In the past what we were calling, what was mentioned in the book as the sperm dream, was mentioned with great caution because insufficient data—although many, many cases had been run—was at hand to establish 100 percent just exactly what was going on.

Called the sperm dream because many people dream while they’re going through it. You’ll get some of the craziest—well, you get anything from the origin of the universe—one psychotic that comes up here keeps reciting the origin of the universe. You try to get him back into the sperm sequence, something like that, it’s practically all he’ll run. He’s held in it.

Male voice: Is he a hebephrenic, Ron?

Hm?

Male voice: It would be interesting to know, is he a hebephrenic?

No, he’s not. He’s got a religious pitch on the things he’s saying and so forth. He doesn’t quite decide from one day to the next whether he’s Saint Paul or Christ, but it’s one or the other.

He showed up with a family friend who was trying to look after him, see that he got along all right, and he introduced this family friend of his as his disciple Simon. He isn’t violent, but when you get him back into an engram he very busily runs out the origin of the universe. He’s running this damn sperm sequence in some way or another. And it was clipped once before. And by the way, his psychotic aspect changed when it was touched. Because the auditor who ran him—he was a psychotic but it sure shifted his psychosis—the auditor who ran him just ran through this thing and said, “Well, hell, there’s no somatic on this” and walked off from it.

Of course, the thing had been reactivated, and you’ll find out that the first couple of times—in many cases, when you run conception the first couple of times you run it, you’re not going to find a somatic. The somatic will turn on later. Or—you used to run off conception with— just in the course of erasure somebody would run into conception. So you’d let him run this off and he’d go racing here and there as a sperm, and be all sorts of sperm around him and lickety-split he’d be going along and he’s got to get there and—one fellow said, “Jesus Christ, it was apparent to me the outfit was being wiped out!” (laughter) This particular case had trouble with contraceptive jelly. That’s not uncommon. Well, he goes driving solidly up the line and finally there’s the ovum, and bang! And of course, sometimes there is, sometimes there isn’t a head somatic on the thing at the moment of collision. Sometimes there are other things at this moment. And this more or less ends the sequence as far as any pain or action is concerned. Don’t judge that the thing, because it’s been called “sperm sequence,” that there isn’t any ovum present.

Because now, you run the thing over and test it from the side of the ovum. See what we get there. And Joe was running somebody a couple of days ago and they had the ovum sequence at the moment when the ovum came out of the ovary, and it got banged, and all of these tentacles were gripping her suddenly and so forth, pushing her along and she was getting somatics on the whole thing. And okay, the case, right afterwards, really started to resolve. And up to that time it had been pretty badly stuck in the mud. So another patient ran through the sperm sequence. It was very light; very, very light somatics, A woman, not much trouble—it doesn’t mean that a woman is the ovum or a man is the sperm—had these very light somatics; light moment of contact and it went on very nicely. Only she was very uncomfortable. As a matter of fact, sat on the stairs and wept for some little time afterwards.

Well, she felt fine for a couple of hours, and then sat down on the stairs and started to weep. So the next auditor that took her back, threw her into the ovum sequence and ka-wham! [gap] Well, it’s not mild, either one of these sequences.

Yeah?

Male voice: I got a somatic out of that, from the—whatever was—I was getting shoved along through that tube.

Yeah, Male voice: That’s an interesting sensation!

The stuff pushing the ovum down the line, getting a somatic on it.

Here is one thing about this. You’re not going to get a pseudo with a somatic, kinesthesia and so forth. They can’t dream them up that well. You’re running a coffin case, a person without very strong somatics and so forth, with a lot of demon circuitry, where your file clerk and somatic strip haven’t been working very well, and you start to get into the sperm area, you will get some of the goddamnedest effects.

It is really fantastic, some of the effects that you will get; dream sequences and all that sort of thing. And you’ll get complete misconceptions. When you run one of these things clean and there are somatics, there is relief and so forth . . .

I lack objective reality here, that is to say, I haven’t a tape of somebody creating the child and the engram out of the child. Got to go find one. I’ll put one of those together one of these days and we’ll see whether or not they track and what the score is. But there is a fact on this, that I’ve run into—it is very difficult here at the early part of the track, to ascertain whether or not we are getting post- or preconception because the context and somatics and so forth very often get bundled up with conception itself. And the confusion which existed concerning conception in the past existed chiefly because there wasn’t a good, clean method of knocking conception out by hitting it right on the button. All of a sudden with methods existing here, we’re getting cleaner results on it.

Now, I can’t, and have never been able to in the past, really ascertain the validity of a preconception engram. I’ve had people run them and I’ve had people run them again and had them erase, had pain on them, but after all, we merely have the context, we only have the somatic.

Now, what the patient attributes these things to is something else again, since that’s computational. But the fact that there are engrams here . . .

One case that—I was totally unwilling to buy any of this, but I said, “Now the file clerk will give us the engram before conception.” And before that we’d get nothing around in this basic area—“File clerk will now give us the engram before conception.” This case had been blank all the way along the line. Just a shot in the dark. Well, what the hell, try anything. And “The somatic strip will go to the front part of this incident,” and we ran the thing, and it was a fight sequence between Mama and Papa where Mama implanted her little lily-white toe in a private part of Papa’s anatomy. And this was what the patient declaimed it was, but all we know was that there was a jar and a fight sequence. And it says, “You always forget anything, you can’t remember everything, goddamn you. I hate you. Now, sit down. I’m going to talk to you and you’re going to listen to me after this.” Here was a demon circuit installed, boom. And I ran this thing out and the whole case cleared up all the way up along the line. So after that I said, “Well, did we get a preconception incident or a postconception incident? Or was it a fight chain of three months postconception, or what was it? I don’t know” But I asked for it—I hadn’t gotten it until I asked for it specifically, then I got it, then the case resolved. That’s all the evidence I have. Now, what one does with his judgment at a moment like this of course is hold on to it solidly and keep his sanity close to hand.

Female voice: What about the word “conception”? People say, “I had no conception before this.” (laughter) Yeah.

Don’t blame me for any of this! (laughter) People will look at me most accusatively. Heaven’s sakes, all I can do is present the observations as they are observed and give you the techniques to get similar observations and produce relief and a different and improved mental condition in the patient.

Like somebody came around the other day and was pointing his finger at me and, “You have no method yet to get painful emotion off the case immediately, bow-wow-wow-wow-wow!” Well, gee! That was my fault.

Male voice: Have you?

Yeah, as a matter of fact he’d been listening to three lectures when it was being outlined, one right after the other, on a new method of doing just this. But he’d been sitting there with such a terrific self-control mechanism and emotional shut-off he’d never heard any of the lectures.

All I know how to do is resolve cases, produce Clears. I’ll show you how we produce them, [marking on blackboard] Here is conception, mitosis and many—any and every cell division on the line, up here. It splits. Here is the ovary in the moment it knocks the ovum out, and here perhaps is something happening before this thing gets knocked out.

Over here are eight cell divisions. On an identity basis, they’re just cells; a cell has the peculiarity of passing along to the next cell its identity. In other words, cell A has the identity of cell A prime. Here’s cell A, cell A prime. A, A prime. This one might as well, as far as memory and recording is concerned, be the same as. This is biology, a lot of testing been done on this. No reason to suppose, then, that about this line, if an engram happened here, it wouldn’t go right down the line here and all of a sudden be in the sperm and hit the ovum in the conception.

I’m giving you now a theory—this is biology You get down the line here; there’s no reason why this ovum becoming part of that should not record. If we’re going to accept the zygote recording, we might as well accept that, I mean, it doesn’t stretch anybody’s imagination.

Male voice: On that basis, you can keep right on going back, too.

On this basis you can keep going back. Fortunately they don’t, that I have seen. They go back days and so forth, but the next jump back—by the way, if anybody has a hat on, hold it—the next jump back is invariably somebody’s death. Not on the same sperm protoplasm line.

If you want to throw a person back in time, you will sometimes land and you get a death, only it isn’t on the same protoplasm line. And I don’t know what is happening there but . . .

Male voice: Reincarnation.

Yeah, reincarnation, sure, (laughter) But it isn’t happening often enough and there isn’t anything there much checking it one way or the other. I’ve noticed that this earlier death sometimes has a little tiny bit of emotion on it but never has any somatics. So what to make of it, I don’t know.

If you go back far enough—I ran one fellow back to the early days of the Roman Republic on successive deaths and so on. He didn’t have any somatics all the way back but he . . .

Male voice: Running the engrams of consecutive lifetimes, that’s too much.

Yeah, that’s too much. Fortunately there are no engrams on that track.

Second male voice: Ron, what are the eight—in a cell? I didn’t get that.

There are eight, more or less eight divisions till we get a sperm. Then the sperm is just a cell, a mobile cell without its cytoplasm. And the . . .

Male voice: Took eight cells to make the sperm.

Yeah, these—this is the cellular division that makes the sperm. It divides and changes this many times to make a sperm, evidently, that’s according to the latest word probably medical science will change its mind one of these days about.

Second male voice: I think there may be one phenomena that’s connected with that ovum rolling out of the ovary is this business that you very often run into in people of—in that area, right around conception of “Oh, I feel like I’m perched on the brink of a precipice. I’m going to fall right over,” and then bing, down they go. And apparently they seem to be rolling in the tubes.

Yeah.

Of course everybody knows that it is indecent to examine things this closely about life, but I want to remark on this other You keep on talking about going back, you keep on going back—talking about it, you will run into, if you return patients earlier and earlier and early back of this, you will get sometimes very, very clear visio and emotion on a death or some high incident or something or other back along the track.

It’s not on the same protoplasm line . . . [gap] Don’t be surprised however, if you wind up in such a thing—one young fellow, you send him back just before conception and he lands with a name, seventy-four years of age, age flash seventy-four, lying in a hospital bed dying with the curtains around him and so forth.

He’s got his name, it happened in 1924, so on. I mean, you can’t shake him on these details. That’s it. He’s there. He goes back there, promptly lies out like this; that goes into this. No somatic, just a little emotion about dying.

I give you a word of warning on this though, that I went back and was killed at the Battle of Shiloh; got a bullet right in the forehead, not painful, but a moment after the bullet struck, the sensation of conversation around me. Everything was very clear, beautiful, three-dimensional, so on. About the clearest visio and sense of being there that I’d care to have. And there I am standing there and I get shot between the eyes. All right.

Somebody says to me, “Hey, Jed,” casually, and then, “Jesus Christ, he’s dead!” Well, all right. This fades out and that’s all there is. So I wondered if I could go back to that, I should be able to go way back down. Well, I hit a couple of other things early, didn’t matter. It was of no great consequence to me. But this thing was either keyed in or the whole thing was created out of whole cloth by my great-grandfather, who had been all the way through the Civil War. And he used to—when I was a little baby, he couldn’t get anybody else to listen to him, he’d sit around and tell me about stories of the Civil War.

We’d go through those but one of his favorite phrases was “Jesus Christ, it looked like the Battle of Gettysburg,” on anything. He was describing an accident, describing anything, “It looked like the Battle of Gettysburg.” This was really carnage. And scouting back through the bank, he never mentioned Shiloh.

After I’d gotten up this material, I went back and got a bullet between my eyes at the Battle of Shiloh. I mean I had it all set, it was illusion and so forth, and I go back and I still get shot at the Battle of Shiloh. No pain, “Hey, Jed, Jesus Christ, he’s dead!” Okay. No somatics.

Very pretty woods. I’m talking to you here, I’m getting this in full—the full parade of this stuff The woods all shot to hell and smoking and so on, and this—very weird. But whoever gets ahold of this fact, don’t let this fact get out of this room very far, please, please. Because the last thing in the world we want on our necks are people who believe in transmigration or reincarnation, things like that; to hell with it.

Well, however this may be, I’m telling you what you may run into. I’m not telling you to buy it, telling you to do anything with it, but as you run into this thing, I’d appreciate your own comments on it. Don’t invalidate the recall of your preclear just because you run into him walking down the steps of the Roman Forum or walking into the Senate and being stabbed in the back and having a faint voice behind him saying, “Et tu, Brute!” And don’t think he’s crazy.

Now, this sequence theoretically could pick up somatics. And in running back down the track and getting the earliest moment of pain or unconsciousness, I’ve occasionally uncovered an incident for which the readiest explanation would be that it occurred preconception—the readiest explanation.

At the early part of the track, it’s very difficult to tell exactly at what moment something was occurring so it might as well have been occurring here. [marking on blackboard] But it appeared to be here. So don’t shake up your patient because he is maintaining something is here. It may be there, we don’t know. But it isn’t enough to invalidate his recalls for, because then he won’t work with you anymore.

Yes?

Male voice: There’s one possible proof if the person is in the ovum they may be getting pains as the mother was menstruating and that may put him—well I mean, that may be the incident . . .

Oh, that wouldn’t have been developed at that time.

The proof on this thing will be, you get ten patients and ten children and get the tapes on the parents for every coitus and incident along the area of conception, preferably in amnesia trance. We’ll let Dr. Sloan do that. And we’ll go down into the basic area and get records and get a tape on every incident in the vicinity of conception and then see whether or not the data tracks. It’ll track all right. But we can align it then and find out what period it was occurring and so forth.

Now, if we’re getting stuff, we’ve gotten the fellow saying that this was preconception, preconception, preconception, preconception, and postconception, postconception, postconception—possibly there’ll be enough clues in the thing such as Mama and Papa abstaining for many days or something of the sort, we can someday reach an objective reality on this. Right at the present time all we can do is just say, “This is the way you work it.” All right. To get a person into this most easily, one employs a technique—here’s the time track: birth, conception, and this is late life. All right. We put the preclear in reverie, we say, “Let’s go to a moment of sexual pleasure.” Now, he may not go to a moment of sexual pleasure easily, and you might attempt a courtship sequence when he is kissing a girl or something like that. In other words, you’re getting an emotion along the line of sex.

Your preclear, because of “I can’t feel any pleasure, I can’t experience any pleasure, pleasure is evil, you must get away from it,” demon circuits may be cutting out the whole pleasure sequence. You may not be able to do this. But if you can reach this, it’s worth trying. So here we have a pleasurable sexual incident. We can actually put him through a pleasurable sexual incident without asking for any data on it. No data necessary. You just tell him to return to it and go through it and tell him he needn’t tell you anything about it. Now he can settle into the incident and go through it two or three times until he’s well settled in the incident. And you can see by the expression on his face and so forth, whether or not comparable emotion has been turned on.

Now you tell him suddenly and abruptly, “Let’s go to conception.” And he’ll land in it in enough cases to really make this technique worthwhile. Pick it up here, you go right straight down to the bottom of the bank. And in enough cases to make it very worthwhile, you’ll wind up in conception, which you can run at that time. Run it as the sperm, run it as the ovum. Now . . .

Male voice: How’s that—how’s that work?

You just tell him “Go.” Male voice: I mean—what I mean—what would be to him . . . ?

Sex. Comparable emotional incident.

Well, you want the general law that goes behind this? Tell you that soon enough. You can put a patient—here’s your time track, conception, birth, present time. [marking on blackboard] You can put the patient in a fight dramatization and settle him in that fight dramatization where he is dramatizing—where his parents are fighting or where he’s listening to another couple fight—some fight dramatization of some sort; and put him in it and try to get some slight emotional awareness of this fight situation. And then you tell him, “Now go to basic on the fight chain.” Enough times to warrant, he will land at basic on the fight chain. In other words—and you’re not traveling down a somatic.

I mean, you’re aware of the fact you can travel the somatic down the bank and find the first time it was received. You can go back down on a phrase to the first time it was said. You can go back down the track on a sound to the first time it was said. You can go back to an actual age on the track. In other words, you’re just hitting for perceptics. One of the perceptics in an engram is emotion. So we can go back down the track on an emotion. It’s the same thing.

You’re just following similarity of emotion. Get similarity of somatic. You can get similarity of anything and follow it in engrams. This, by the way, is very valid as technique. It’s something you should know how to employ.

Yes?

Male voice: Is yawning an expression of prenatal life?

Oh, no. No, on an erasure postnatal everybody will yawn. It has something to do with either muscle relaxation or oxygenation. But let me get on with this.

Now, here we have a fight dramatization. In other words, the fellow is fighting himself with his wife and he’s dramatizing something. Then we have the dramatization we’re also following down on, you see? Or he’s watching this fight, something like that. Or we get a moment of sexual pleasure, same thing. Or we pick up a late lock when he hurt his hand, we got his pain there, let’s follow it down to the first time his hand ever hurt. Or we get a time when he was wearing scratchy underwear and we go back to the first of the douche chain.

Now, you don’t want the first of the coitus chain with this, you want conception. This is a similar emotion and the emotion on conception is very strong, which makes the technique workable. So, if this is a moment of sexual pleasure, whether it is kissing, whether it’s actual sexual intercourse, back we go, land at conception and run this sequence.

Male voice: I think it must be the electrical discharge, the sensation of a discharge, total discharge through the organism.

Mm-hm. Sure. You must ride it down on something.

Male voice: The impact.

Mm-hm.

Second male voice: Supposing you had a rape case. Would conception be, then, a moment of pain?

In spite of all that and the fact that it is a moment of pain that is painful to the sperm, that it is painful perhaps to the ovum, that it has very bad word content and everything else, remember it is still conception and that is the beginning of life. Take the moment of pain but also take life.

Third male voice: The sperm has no opinion.

I wanted to ask you the technique on separating the sperm and ovum sequence for the individual Practically don’t have to.

Third male voice: Just let them do it Second male voice: You ask for it?

They’ll do it. You don’t have to separate them independently.

Third male voice: But he’ll have to use the words to start them?

No. No, as a matter of fact, I never used to use this word at all. I’d say, “Let’s go to the beginning of track” and very often the fellow would wind up in a coitus engram and I would say, “Yup.” And then he’d come —evidently mess around for a little while and then seem to come forward a way and we’d get into the sperm sequence and erase that, get the ovum sequence, erase that. Asked for the beginning of track, you couldn’t quite tell what you were going to get. [marking on blackboard] I couldn’t tell whether he was landing here and then moving back to here, or landing here and coming forward to here.

Yeah, it isn’t just what you are asking for, but you ask for conception specifically. Because you get this whether you ask for it or not. That validates the fact of what you’re getting, but that’s been done so often, that it’s been validated so often, on the fact that an experience is there which is aberrative . . . [gap] . . . the sequence you want instead of caging around about it and testing the patient for validity and so forth. Let’s not worry about that. We’re trying to get him well. So we ask specifically for conception and he can’t make up his mind which way he’s going, ask him for the sperm sequence. And then after he’s run that out, ask for the ovum sequence.

Now, some more on this data. We have here a situation which first uncovered prenatals. This was a calculation which was based upon the initial observation that the earlier we went on the track, the lighter moments of unconsciousness appeared to be, general rule. Furthermore, the earlier we went on the track, the easier it was to deintensify moments of unconsciousness. So carrying this out to its fullest extent as a calculation, one would say that he had to go back to the very earliest moment. And I figured it out that way. It was very clear, and the way it was observed it was very clear that the earlier one went, the better chance he had of recovering an engram.

Now, he couldn’t go through this late appendectomy. This late appendectomy with ether and everything, couldn’t get anything out of it. You chug into it and it sticks, and if you do get into it you wish to Christ you never had. And it’s just stuck right there. It’s not going to lift. But now let’s go down to this tonsillectomy. We find out we can go through the thing. Now we will go down to the time the circumcision, which was a general anesthetic circumcision or something like that— there are damn few of these, by the way. Lots of circumcisions, but seldom under a good thorough anesthetic.

You get down to here and this thing’s really thin. It’ll roll out. So we say, “For Christ’s sakes, this thing is working out, let’s take it to its logical conclusion and let us reach the moment where it’s so thin that we can walk right straight through it and reexperience it a few times.” Because we can see these later ones deintensifying and occasionally losing words out of them. So I said, “Well now, lookee3 here, it might be words could be taken out of the whole thing. All right. Let’s go early and really find out.” I never intended anybody to get to birth, I swear to God on a stack of Bibles. Bang! All of a sudden one day we were in birth. Mm-hm, so we ran birth. I was lucky this time, just the fact that birth reduced.

It was obviously birth. He hit birth, by the way, in Mama’s valence and hit it with screams, reproducing Mama’s screams. And the people that had the next suite of offices where I was working there immediately started banging on the door. So I had a screaming patient on the couch that I was sure was screaming in tune to birth contractions and I couldn’t figure out what the hell was going on, but it seemed like it was . . .

By the way, come to remember, seemed like something I had heard before, (laughter) At least my stomach was telling me so.

People pounding on the door, and it’s complicated. I thought I’d reached bottom on this thing. And then I found out that the next three or four patients, they couldn’t reach birth and nothing could happen. So I figured out, “Well, life starts at birth. At that exact instant some magic immediately starts life there and only there.” That is a ridiculous piece of logic. Let’s see how far we can go with this sort of thing. Let’s go—let’s just tell the person, “All right. Let’s go earlier.” So, I get very smart on about the fifth patient as I said, “Let’s go as early as you can get.” And we hadn’t discussed anyplace, he didn’t know anything about prenatals or anything else. And the next thing you know, whrnk! I said, “Oh-ho-ho, what are we into now?” Up to this time my scientific reputation was safe, but now, God help me. We keep going down and we ran into the sperm sequence. So at that time I said, “Well Jesus Christ, that really is a dream.” But that was because my own credulity had been strained too far, forward of the fact, otherwise.

Now, following that south then, following that logical conclusion, we’ll find this: Here is the time track, here is the first missed period. [marking on blackboard] This first missed period is remarkable for the number of times the doctor says, “Well, it’s too early to tell yet, I’ll have to wait and see.” So here are various coitus, bowel engrams, in the couple of weeks preceding this thing. Few small engrams here. [marking rapidly and repeatedly on blackboard] (laughter) And here, let us say, is conception. Now, the weird part of it is that conception sometimes won’t lift. Now, whether conception gets latched up on something here or here and won’t lift—which would be, by the way, the first time that had ever happened—or whether there actually is—if conception will not lift, if it is absolutely stuck in the mud—brace yourself and tell him, “Well, let’s go earlier.” And I did this not too long ago and the fellow said to me conversationally, “Well, shall I go to the sperm or the ovum?” So I said, “Go to the sperm.” (laughter) Well, he came back down the line here, about here, [taps blackboard] and he ran off three engrams, rather simple ones, very light, very easy. They erased rapidly. Unconsciousness came off the thing and we went back and ran the sperm. And the sperm part of the sequence came off right up to the moment of impact and then we went back here and we got this one, we came forward to this, and then we got this sequence off. This was one of the first times I ever did it with malice aforethought and said, “Go back to,” very bluntly, “Go back to the first moment of the ovum. Go back to the first moment of the sperm.” Boy, I had an easier time of it than I’ve ever had before in that area. So take it, would you please, this is following out the logical sequence: it would seem that there is something just before conception. Whether in terms of days or in terms of minutes, or whether or not other engrams become bundled up with conception and are hard to extricate from it, I don’t know I do know that you’re going to get better results if you just say very bluntly, “Well, go back to the first moment of the ovum now,” and “Go back to the first moment of the sperm,” and your chance of getting engrams is better.

Don’t expect to find conception always an engram. But don’t be fooled either by running it once and, finding no somatic, decide that it is not an engram. Run it three or four times. And one of those times you’re liable to get more than you bargained for. And you’re liable to get a real engram there.

Sometimes you run it six, eight, ten times and there’s absolutely nothing there, there isn’t anything there, there isn’t going to be anything there. It was a painless experience. It goes on perfectly all right. You come on up the track and start erasing. And when you do this, by the way, your next moment of pain or unconsciousness is available. But you approach it from here.

Male voice: Isn’t—mustn’t basic-basic be conception or before, in every case?

Following this out to its logical sequence would say that it sometimes could be. That is why we don’t say basic-basic is conception. Because you get back to basic-basic and try to erase the thing and it won’t erase. And obviously it can’t be basic-basic. There’s something wrong with it. So we just have to use the word “basic-basic” as the earliest moment of pain or unconsciousness and this leaves it flexible. Now, whether or not these incidents are not here or are here, and the conception is somewhat tangled up—after all, there isn’t much recording mechanism there, there’s no reason why it should be very logically fitted together.

You go to basic-basic; basic-basic could be here or here. But there might be no pain here or here. Basic-basic can be a fight. It can be bowel movement. It can be coitus. It can be many things.

Yes, I have found basic-basic, incidentally, well up the track, evidently, from conception. Things had apparently run along in beautiful serenity. Nothing had happened at all. And the first clue that we get that there’s anything wrong in the exterior world is when Mama falls over a chair gracefully or something of this sort and bangs herself and the zygote gets a jar. Then that’s basic-basic. And that may be several days after conception.

Male voice: Is there any reason why you shouldn’t set the patient in late sexual pleasure and then take—try and take them back to conception during say, the first ten minutes you re auditing the person?

Absolutely no reason whatsoever.

Male voice: I mean, is there any prerequisite that you should . . .

No, no.

Male voice: Nothing at all.

Second male voice: That was done successfully in Washington, actually . . .

Yup. It’s very startling to people.

Male voice: You mean you don’t have to get them moving on the time track first, make sure that they can do that or anything—you just take them right back to it?

Well, tell you, when I open up a case, I normally ask the case to do the optimum that the case should do, and then start cutting back from the optimum. And assume at first glance that this patient is moving on the time track, has all perceptics, is in his own valence, everything’s going to go along well.

Even when I look straight at the patient—now, it was one of the first times you people were at a lecture here, I asked this fellow to go back to some pleasure moments, I just wanted to see if he was moving on the track, and then I said, “Let’s go to basic-basic.” We didn’t land at basic-basic, but boy, we sure got fireworks. Do you recall?

Audience: Yes.

We got charge off of that case and that case started to get better right there. So all of a sudden, “Well, let’s go to basic-basic.” Bang! Now, if I can get results that way, that’s the simplest form. In that case it would be impossible, you see, to settle him in a pleasure sexual moment.

You remember my trying to settle that fellow in anything? The boys had taken his boat and so forth, and they’d taken his oars away, and—but he’s “Ooooo!” Pleasure. So poor guy, so what do you do? You try to take some line charge off the case.

There’s no reason why, if I’d discovered sexual pleasure at that moment, I couldn’t have said, “All right, you don’t have to tell me what’s happening but let’s just contact it a little more closely. Now, you know what’s going on, now let’s get a tactile here. Now, you know everything about this, now, what’s going on—conception.” How? “Somatic strip will go to conception.” Bang. No reason why you shouldn’t wind up there.

Female voice: Has any reason been found why one patient runs conception with these somatics and another will not?

Sure. Sometimes it’s painful and sometimes it isn’t.

Female voice: Well, I ‘mean, you know—why? Why is it sometimes painful and sometimes not when you have a similar biological thing occurring in each case? I mean . . .

You would have to suppose in that case that the biology, that is, that each body and each sperm and each condition, every time was always the same. And it wouldn’t be. You’d have to suppose that one uterus was just like another and that one tube was just like another and so on.

There’s all sorts of factors that would enter into it. But the clarity of the sequence is not necessarily because it has pain with it, which should be interesting to you.

Male voice: Is there an olfactory in that?

No. Quite often, by the way, there is sort of a visio. It’s as though a sperm had cat eyes or something. There is a sort of a strange visio. The person gets this feeling. It’s as though a person is seeing but isn’t seeing. As though there’s an actual contact and concept of what’s going on. This may be a sort of a blueprint which has gotten into the sperm. After all, he has to be a navigator of sorts, even if he’s going to the center of, what is it, alkalinity?

Male voice: Yeah.

Yeah, even if he’s heading . . . [gap] “There’s a certain sentience in the way a sperm steers and . . .” “No, no,” he says, “there’s no sentience at all, the sperm merely homes on the center of alkalinity.” Well . . . (laughter) Yeah. Boy, I wish I could navigate like that. I have known of cases where the alkalinity of the area was very, very carefully acidified, and still it did the navigation, much to some people’s embarrassment. (laughter) Male voice: Ron, how much work has been done on identical twins to . . .?

I’m looking for ten identical twins separated at birth. And we are going to run them for the university textbook of Dianetics along with three thousand case histories processed by IBM machines, collected and so forth by the departments.

Now, some girl was telling me today that she was going to run her sister. I said, “Well . . .” This girl occasionally gets upset, restimulated, as don’t we all, but mainly because of her sister. She was going to run her sister. Her sister’s four years older than she and of course that sister would be all the way down the bank, because it’s the prenatal bank of this girl that’s going to run her. Then she wants to run her mama. Oh, that will be dandy. Because this girl is peculiarly susceptible to restimulation. Boy, we’d be running identical engrams there. That’s nasty Yes?

Female voice: When in the prenatal area do you get specialized somatics rather than generalized somatics?

You’ll get it in a douche up around the first missed period. It’s terribly small but it’s gotten up to a point where moisture may be able to reach one part without reaching another. But certainly right after the first missed period you’re liable to get half somatics occasionally on douches or abrasives or something of that sort.

You’re still getting pressure somatics on the rest of it. But they’re getting more or less—not generalized but back and front, or something like that, or sides. A little bit later, about the third month, you’ll start to get specialized pains around the feet and so forth. And you may get them a little bit earlier by the virtue of a hatpin which is quite sharp and comes by and bruises. But by the way, most of this bruising on the very early AAs, the ones that succeed the first missed period, right afterwards up in there with instruments, are quite often merely bruises.

Whereas, don’t be terribly in surprise to find AAs taking place at six months. Don’t be amazed too much, because it’s not unheard of, by a long ways. Particularly when Mama has been foolish enough to try to hide from Papa. Boy, here’s one that really fouls up the file clerk.

Mama has been pregnant for three months, she’s not sure that she’s pregnant by Papa. She has finally raised the nerve to tell Papa, but now she can’t tell Papa that she has been pregnant for three months because Papa would be very angry at having been deceived. So she gets herself in even further trouble—knowing very well that she can get rid of this anyway, no trouble about that—that the thing just happened, she just noticed it. And then you will find Papa insisting on up to six months, six and a half months, and even seven months, they get rid of it. And then one day he’ll take a look at the swollen condition of the abdomen and suddenly decide that this child is much further advanced than before and you usually have a nasty scene there.

All of this is not uncommon and it will foul up the age level. So that a person will get back into context, Mama telling Papa about, “I think I am pregnant, dear,” and so on. “I just noticed it.” And it’s not always true that she just noticed it.

It’s not always true that Mama tells the truth, either. She may be saying to Papa, “I can’t get rid of it, you can’t make me get rid of it. I’d just lose my mind. I’ll work and I’ll slave if you let me keep it. Don’t make me get rid of it, please, please, please don’t make me get rid of it” and so on.

Papa’s saying, “Get rid of it. Goddamn you, you’ve got to get rid of it now. Get in there and get it out.” Papa of course is now—the auditor’s now pseudo. Papa the second he tries to run an engram in that area. And then you find this terrific dramatization on Mama’s part and this big dramatization on Papa’s part. And Mama loving the dear little child so, and having to hold on to it, and then as I remarked in class the other day, find her after Papa has turned in, or after he’s gone to work in the morning, AAing the hell out of the kid. Putting up one big show to Papa, trying to do something else and so on. In other words, she shifts into valences about the whole thing.

Now, that’s a little bit off the subject, but not terribly, when it comes down to discussing, as I was trying to discuss tonight, this Standard Procedure and particularly hitting erasure to help those people who are doing erasing.

As you come up the bank and you find a sharp penetration, you’re after the first missed period. Invariably after the first missed period. That is not basic area. Basic area is before the first missed period, by definition. Usually things in the basic area will reduce or erase when you first contact it.

Therefore it’s very necessary to know what part of the track you’re on. Because if you get very specialized—localized, I should say—somatics, such as a hatpin going just by the heart, or something going through both ears, or something going through both eyes . . . By the way, I found that one in enough cases to make it quite amazing to me, not only on—in any of this—on the healing power of the fetus, since that’s not extraordinary: after all, it’s surrounded by amniotic fluid and all of the proteins and everything it needs and it’s getting a food supply without having to exert its own organs, it’s getting its oxygen. Pretty hard to damage. And its recovery, because it’s right on the blueprint right there and it’s reading it off the blueprint, its ability to repair that damage is pretty good. But when you run across one right through the eyes . . .

Of course you should look up a book on embryology, just take a look at the pictures for a while. You’ll find out there’s a period there when the eyes are on the side of the head. Why even a slender hatpin wouldn’t just take out all of the cells that were busily constructing eyes, I don’t know. But I have found, not one, but many more than one . . .

Male voice: I think I can give you an answer to that Experimental embryology has shown that you can remove the eyes completely, but there are organizers and directors there which will take the cells that still remain and heal that Mm-hm. They’re busy. Now, another one that you get: the mouth is often in a peculiar shape. And you may get somatics which look to you impossible. It couldn’t happen to a person because the anatomy is all wrong. And you get a mouth somatic there that would be impossible to make on an adult with one thrust. And you may be looking for a couple of thrusts to make such a thing and you find out that if you glance at embryology pictures that it was quite easy to do.

Another thing, the knees are so drawn up that occasionally on a blow, you get a knee going into the jaw and very gruesomely mixing up the jaw and so forth. In other words, the fellow’s knee is practically through the back of his head; and this damage repairs.

Incidentally, none of these things are completely painless, by a long way. But fortunately the recording mechanisms for pain are not terrifically sharp when we return to them in reverie. And it is the feeling that such a thing would be painful that sometimes keeps people off of this level. If they have even a ghost of a control mechanism, why, they’ll sheer off from these things. It’s always a surprise to somebody to run a somatic and find out how mild it is.

Male voice: What about some cases that you find occasionally where conception has taken place and menstruation continues. Will that foul up calculation sometimes?

Oh, believe me. And another thing. A lot of these “I don’t know” cases, you know, you run into one of these fellows that doesn’t know anything about, he just doesn’t know about Dianetics, he just can’t tell, and he couldn’t believe it anyway because he can’t quite—you know? Quite often that is a series of confusion engrams on this very thing of “Let’s see, when was it, what was it, I don’t know, I just couldn’t believe that it’s true, because if it is true then I would feel so awful, I would feel so terrible and gee-whiz, I wondered, well, did I have my period last month, or didn’t I have my period last month? Now, let me see. Well, maybe if I squeeze my abdomen hard again, I’ll be able to really start something coming. But of course, I’d better start it, I’d better start it now. Yeah, I . . .” And I found one case where Mama drifted through into the third month in a complete lapsed amnesia on the fact that she’d missed two periods. And when she hit that one she was really confused. Because she went back over it, and she’d go through the calendar. This whole thing was full of numbers.

It was “Was it this date or was it that date, or why wasn’t it this date, if it was? Now, let me see, that was the day I did this, and—but that couldn’t have been that, because I must have missed that period, because I don’t remember. Now, let’s see . . .” She’d go over this thing again—she was a monologuist, and she walked around home for several days after this horrible discovery, doing this and trying to start it. And then she was taking physics and trying to start it. And this guy was a physicist and he was failing. (laughter) That’s right, his chief aberration was just that. He didn’t feel he was fitted to this profession. Somehow or other . . .

Male voice: How well does it work on a case on following pleasure back to conception?

Oh, I wouldn’t give you any statistic on it. A very generalized statistic— possibly a third of the cases, maybe even a half of the cases that you run will do this. And after you’ve undone the circuitry, they’d all do it.

Second male voice: What was the question?

He wanted to know what percentage of the time you could reach this conception sequence with this mechanism.

Now, of course, your first goal in the case is to get early as possible and get some unconsciousness off of the case. This makes the case undangerous, right there. After that it is quite difficult to do anything seriously harmful to this case, stop therapy or anything else. That is, short of a very bad break of the Auditor’s Code, there isn’t much you could do.

You can run an engram and leave it halfway reduced through some auditing error and it isn’t going to hurt any. If you did that thing before the first unconsciousness was off, you might find the patient extremely restimulated and very upset. And possibly in an incipient psychotic who had had many breaks on these things, if one was to go in and hit an engram and run the engram off, and not reduce it but for some . . . [gap] I don’t know of its having been done, but I could postulate that on an incipient who had had breaks and who might be on the way to another break, it might trigger him. It’s a possibility. I don’t know of its having been done. But if you’ve got unconsciousness off of this case, you’ve got a couple, three erasures down at the bottom of the track, you could go ahead and hit this thing and half reduce it, no psychotic break.

Because the common denominator of all engrams is unconsciousness. The things you want to get off of this case first and fastest are painful emotion and unconsciousness. They’re sort of twins in two different aspects as far as I can figure. But you’ll get a very lasting result if you can knock out the painful emotion.

You can enter painful emotion anytime, you can stir it up, you can go through it, you don’t have to reduce it, you can walk off and leave it. You can handle locks this way too. You can run a lock halfway through and then walk off and leave it. And you could do anything you want to a lock or a painful emotion, grief engrams.

If you can get off painful emotion right at the beginning of the case, get a discharge at the beginning of the case, the person will have a resurgence which is a very marked, fast improvement in the case. In other words, he’ll go into reverie feeling like all is lost and always will be and he’ll come out of that session of reverie feeling that, “Well, all may be lost sometime but it feels pretty good right now.” He won’t drop back down. No release is a release, honestly, until you have painful emotion off of it. That painful emotion is what keeps the bank charged up. That’s what keeps the circuits charged up, the demon circuits and so forth, is evidently painful emotion. Because once you’ve gotten it off, the charge in those circuits is much lighter. Furthermore, painful emotion can occlude the early bank and so on, particularly when it’s very active. Either painful emotion or early physical pain engrams will come off of the case, one or the other, or an engram will deintensify where the person is stuck on the track. One of these things will happen in a case if you fish for it. So you try for that painful emotional discharge, you try to get some painful emotion off of the case, well, you’ve made a very marked gain. And it is a permanent gain when you have done this. Don’t let the guy sit around crying about the fact that nobody’d buy him any marbles and so on and minor stuff like this.

You can sometimes get a case which has a lot of line charge on it, but the case will cry about anything. You can spend literally dozens of hours running over incidents. About the time that you get his painful emotion off of everything you touch you had better suspect a demon circuit which says, “Cry. I’ll make you cry. Go on and cry.” Sure. So you’re running on a command somatic to cry. There can be a command somatic to cry just as there can be a command somatic “don’t cry.” One will produce no tears and the other produces tears for everything. That isn’t real painful emotion or grief discharge; that’s just a command that produces a flow of tears. So you try to get this off on your Standard Procedure there, get down into the early part of that bank and get some unconsciousness off If you can get unconsciousness off of that, the whole engram bank starts to soften. Get a little more unconsciousness, it’ll soften some more, some more off, it’ll soften more and more and more.

Until, as the case runs along, if you’ve succeeded—if the case is in his own valence in the basic area and you’re contacting it very well, you get basic-basic out, the whole engram bank will soften up so you can hit anything in it from the top to the bottom and run it and get a reduction on it. So you see it’s very important to get off the physical pain and the unconsciousness in the early part of the track. Painful emotion can be taken off the case and the person will feel better, will have less occlusions, you will have more engrams available in the bottom part of the bank. But it won’t soften up the engram bank; it won’t soften it up. In other words, after running off painful emotion don’t expect engrams to lift easier; they don’t. But they’re more accessible.

Male voice: What phase in that development do you call a Release?

When we get the painful emotion off of a case, where the case is stable. And you don’t have to take a single basic engram off of a case to produce a Release. A Release is more or less gauged by removal of painful emotion and gaining a stability on the case. When you’re going in for Clear, you don’t care where you pull anything out. You’re not trying to make the case comfortable, you’re just trying to make him run. Sometimes you’ll have to take off the painful emotion before you can get the engram bank out. And sometimes you’ll have to take the engram bank out before you get the painful emotion.

If you have to do the latter—take the engram bank out in the basic area first, before you can get off the grief—then of course you do so and you’re leading up to a Release again. Take off the painful emotion and you can park the case there if he permits himself to be parked.

Male voice: I have one question. One of my patients seems to be moving very well Mm-hm.

Male voice: Contacting everything Yet he never has any emotion in any of his prenatals, runs them all off in a monotone, a run may be half a dozen, a dozen times. Pain appears to be here, but . . .

He’s in a valence. He’s not in his own valence. Is he running fairly flat on the bed? That is, coffin case?

Yeah. Now . . .

Second male voice: Can’t it also be a baby valence?

Sure, sure. But ordinarily a person doesn’t get locked that hard in a valence.

Now, here we’ve gotten your Standard Procedure. You’ve been pretty well reviewed over what to do with engrams. You’ve been pretty well reviewed over how to shoot engrams apart with repeater technique, what to look for to get early and all that sort of thing. You’ve got this down.

Now, look on your Standard Procedure there, you’ve gotten Step Two. Step Two is running with the somatic strip obeying and the file clerk cooperating. That’s Step Two.

Now, when we start to get odd effects, and we’re not getting anyplace, and the case seems to be bogged down, we find out whether or not the patient is stuck on the track. He might be stuck on the track, we might be able to free him on the track. And we can’t free him on the track, shoot the engram out in which he is, we go to Step Three.

Now, you’ll notice Step Three there is using this straight memory diagnosis. You have seen this straight memory diagnosis in action a couple of times in class, probably not well enough to know it extremely well. But it is something that you will have to experience yourself and understand yourself.

Straight memory depends upon this fact: that thing which is worrying a person, that thing about which he is concerned, normally has been told to him in exactly the words that he is worrying about it. You get him to remember who told him this and we will knock locks out. We’ve used this for validating reality. Now we can knock locks out with this.

You can actually destimulate engrams by getting the person to remember. You can kick out a whole aberrative computation that has been chronic half the person’s life just by getting them to remember a specific incident when it was said.

Male voice: Just one?

Yeah. Sure, just one. You ask the person—mind you, this will only happen in a small percentage of the cases, you’ll be able to get such a tremendous release just on straight memory. This is strictly miracle stuff because it is apparently so easy. Strictly miracles.

You suddenly ask the fellow, you say, “Hey, what’s worrying you?” And the fellow says, “Oh, I don’t know, I guess I’m just no good. I keep thinking about it all the time. I guess I’m just no good. I’ve been trying and trying and trying to get along but I can’t.” “Who used to feel like this in your family?” “Oh, I don’t know.” “Well, come on. Who used to feel like this?” “Well . . . my father, fa— yeah! Yeah, my father used to feel like that.” “Well, when—what did he say?” “Well, he used to say, well, he had an awful hard time getting along in life.” “What did he used to say about it?” “Well, let’s see, he said, ‘Just seems like,’ let me see, what did he say? Oh yeah, ‘Just seems like I —heh!’” You get the little release here, little bit of false four coming up. “He just—I’m just not good enough to get along,’ something like that. Yeah, I can . . .” “Now, you can remember a specific incident when this happened.” “No, no.” “Now, you can remember one. Now, let’s try. Let’s try. Where would he be standing when he said it?” “Well . . . well . . . well, there’s so many of these things, they’re hard to remember.” All of a sudden you just now opened up the memory channel. “Well, pick out one of them now. Now, where would he be standing?” “Well, he’d be standing over there.” “Now, what would he be wearing?” so forth.

And, “Well, I don’t—couldn’t say—well, unless it was overalls.” And you lead him into this line and all of a sudden we’ve got a lock, but we’ve got it on a straight memory circuit. We’re not returning the patient to it, we’re just knocking it out on straight memory. And all of a sudden the fellow will say, “Yeah, he’s saying there, ‘I’m just no good.’ Ha-ha! Very funny. I don’t know why this strikes me funny but it’s very funny—saying he’s no good and he can’t get along.” Of course this fellow’s been held up on the track all the way back because somebody can’t get along, something of the sort. (laughter) So all of a sudden, bing You’ve brought him actually up to present time out of some of these locks. You’ve kicked out, in other words, destimulated engrams.

Now, as you practice with this straight memory technique — and the whole next lecture will be on it—you will learn very rapidly when and how to produce in patients, in ten or fifteen minutes, a most remarkable sense of relief in a large number of cases, so that you just (snap, snap, snap) get them to remember. “All right, well, you know who said this. You know who said that.” “Yeah, well, what’d your mother used to say?” “Ah, oh yes. Mm, you can remember that.” “That’s right. Your grandmother now, when did she tell you to control yourself? You can remember.” “Did she ever tell you to control yourself?” “Oh, she never—oh, that was your grandfather! Oh, I see. Well, when did he tell you?” “What kind of words did he use?” “Oh, ‘You have to get a grip on yourself.’ Is that what it is?” “Yeah, I have to get a grip on myself” “Well now, you can remember a specific time when he’s saying this,” and so forth. And the fellow says, “Ha-ha, Yeah. Yeah, there he is,” You’ve got a relief. But if you don’t get the relief, you have something much more valuable. We weren’t looking for relief, we’re looking for diagnosis. We’re getting the words of Grandpa’s dramatization. And Grandpa was the aberrative character in the case. We use repeater technique and we plunge for circuitry, demon circuitry, I’m going to talk to you next time about demon circuitry, how to shoot holes in these dub-in cases and how to make the case resolve. If you use this three-step procedure however, any case here that is bogged down, you’ve got something to do and you can straighten it up.

Thank you very much.

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