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'''Date:''' 18 August 1950

'''Speaker:''' L. Ron Hubbard

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Somebody wrote in the other day, gave me a little tip on technique which I thought was extremely interesting. People are beginning to think very heavily on technique improvements and this material can be expected to roll in quite regularly. And his comment was that in order to find an ally—here’s a nice little trick you can use in order to find an ally. What you do is to discover an antagonist, somebody who was really hated by the preclear. And when you have this antagonist, you then start back down the line of what the antagonist has done to the preclear. And you go back down the line, finding moments in which something has been done to the preclear—and even back into the prenatal area—on the supposition that sooner or later, somebody’s going to intervene. And of course that person will be an ally. So, we locate the ally by locating the antagonist.

If you do this—and, by the way, this should be a good technique at all times—you have to be very alert for the missing half of an engram. Sometimes it’s a matter of dialogue sense actually. You have to develop a little bit of dialogue sense. If you have good dialogue sense, you know for instance, somebody says, “How are you?” and then, “I am fine.” Or “I feel terribly sick. You must help me,” “No, I don’t think so, I haven’t seen any,” “Goodbye,” I have found auditors going over such a piece of dialogue without looking for the missing person. You are sort of running a bureau of missing persons anyhow when you are auditing people. So, if you are careful to look over the situation and check that dialogue run . . .

Now, you don’t care—your interest does not lie with the fact that Mama says, “I am going up to throw myself out of the Empire State Building, No, on second thought, I think I will take a parachute with me.” That is not the test of dub-in, or the test of an engram. This sort of thing appears in engrams. An engram isn’t sensible necessarily, but usually its dialogue is sequitur so that you have, like a play would be, you have the one person talking and another person answering. Sometimes of course, just as in writing, you have somebody asking a question and getting no answer. Very often he will afterwards make a comment to the effect that he didn’t get an answer.

In view of the fact that a psychotic switches so swiftly to various valences and sticks so solidly in any valence in which he happens to be, knowing something about dialogue is of enormous importance to you, because the psychotic will switch over into a valence and run the dialogue of that valence he is dramatizing. And the charge is probably on somebody else’s valence there. So you have to take all the valences present there and run each one out, deintensify each one in turn, and if you don’t recognize the fact that there’s more to this you get in a bad way rather rapidly.

By the way, this chap who wrote the suggestion had this comment to make, that he had run into his first audio demon circuit and it quite amazed him. This preclear was a kind, polite fellow and their relationship, auditor-preclear, had been very fine and the file clerk worked very nicely; and he got him back down the track and he was running him through an incident, and it was late in the session, and he had it fairly well reduced. But he wanted to check it again. So he said, “The next time I bring you back to this point, will you go through the incident?” And the preclear said he had another voice, besides the file clerk. “Well, yes. What did you get?” “Just try and do it, you boob.” So he held quite a conversation with this demon circuit, much to the amazement of the preclear and much to the amazement of the auditor, because the thing was very flippant. “That’s a stupid job if I ever saw one.” You know, answer intelligently.

You know, it’s quite amusing when you get these audio demons that set themselves up to buff the auditor. They do—swearing and so forth. And sometimes, you get a person saying, “You know, I have the strangest thoughts about you—your auditing—you know, I have the strangest thoughts about you.” And you say, “What are you thinking?” “. . . I have to tell, but I just keep thinking these thoughts.” “Well, how do you get these thoughts?” “Well, you know, how anybody gets these thoughts—a little voice in the head.” Now, I would like to give you here this morning a demonstration of straight line memory. Who doesn’t know his own name this morning? Oh, here’s a gentleman right back here. Come in. All right, have a seat.

LRH: What is the brain doing?

PC: Oh, I suppose worrying about the mind, my baby, my wife.

LRH: Anything wrong with them, particularly?

PC: No.

LRH: Nothing wrong?

PC: No.

LRH: Something liable to happen to them?

PC: No. I just think about the . . . how important it is for my wife to get into Dianetics, and she’s not in it as much as I am, and she should be.

LRH: Does that worry you?

PC: A bit, not too much lately.

LRH: Not too much?

PC: Not too much, no.

LRH: That isn’t really worrying you.

A sequitur question on this, of course, would be “Was your father ever worried about his wife, your mother, cooperating?” PC: It’s hard for me to think of it. I still have my stepfather. My father died when I was three, I believe. I had a wonderful relationship with my stepfather.

LRH: Now, this is quite interesting. I am glad that the example came up.

This example demonstrates one of the broken legs you sometimes get in Straightwire. Here, we have a parent who is not alive after a certain period of time. So we don’t get any of the person’s dramatizations repeated up above the . . . much above the speech level. A person has just been—and then, from there on, we get no repeat of the dramatizations. Furthermore, we don’t get Mother’s standard reaction to him; her reaction to Stepfather is not necessarily her reaction at all to the father, since she may be shifted into another valence or her life may alter considerably. But nevertheless, we can do things with Straightwire.

Do you have any chronic psychosomatic troubles occasionally?

PC: As of this morning the recurrence of early morning sneezing hay fever At one time in the army I took a skin test and twenty-one shots in the arm. Each needle went in, the analyzer went down, because I pass out—get shots, so sixty skin tests, nothing Just stay away from cats. So, it should be a total loss.

LRH: What is the matter with tests? Did you test an allergy with tests?

PC: No, but after they gave me shots, they said, “You are not allergic to anything we have got. Stay away from cats.” LRH: Well, that at least gave you hope, anyway. All right, do you like doctors?

PC: Not particularly.

LRH: You don’t like doctors?

PC: Well, I am. . .

LRH: Are you against them?

PC: Generally speaking I am not crazy about medicine, but—that is, the medical thing, but . . .

LRH: When did they force medicine down your throat?

PC: Oh. . .

LRH: This is pickup of a tongue slip which should be interesting to you. He says he has nothing against medicine, which would be rather an odd way of saying, “I don’t like doctors.” PC: When I was . . . I think twelve, I had infantile paralysis, and I was at the county hospital. The nurse would . . . after several days, they started giving me a tonic, so that I would eat more when the food came. A green tonic, and it was in a little shot glass.

LRH: Is this in your clear memory?

PC: Oh, yes.

LRH: Just remember a time when you had a good time, when you really enjoyed yourself.

PC: When I had a good time? That’s funny because I have been manic for about three days, and I cant think of a real good time. I will tell you the last time I had a really good time, was the Sunday before last Sunday. Sunday before . . .

LRH: You had a good time?

PC: I had a good time.

LRH: All right. What were you doing?

PC: I was working down here.

LRH: How about a year ago, have any good times a year ago?

PC: Yes, I had a good time. I went up to the mountains with a friend of mine last—it was—I guess last September, it was. I remember it was before school started. I went up to the mountains with a friend of mine and we camped.

LRH: Very nice?

PC: Yes, a lot of fun. He was hunting deer, and I was just walking along behind him. Didn’t catch a deer, but we had a lot of fun.

LRH: Who triggered that manic?

PC: Who triggered this manic?

LRH: Yes. That you just mentioned.

PC: Gee, there was a lot of people. Seemed everybody I ran into Sunday night it was triggering it. I mean, you know, just the general atmosphere around here, and then I was audited Tuesday night, and I came out of the session feeling very, very good, and went up high, about tone six. And then, of course, however, some terrific restimulator occurred later on that night. It was about 1:30 in the morning and I went up . . . and when I finally got to sleep, and my little boy woke up, came wandering out of his bed, wandering into the bedroom, and got into the bed with me and went back to sleep. And he fell out of bed. And I was just. . .I mean, I was to all intents and purposes sound asleep, but he barely hit the floor when I was picking him up. And he had gone over head first and hit his mouth. So I picked him up and held him, and my wife came in and said something to him and I said, “You will remember this.” I said this a few times, and then I put him down on the pillow and then, as I went—my shoulder was wet and I thought it was tears, you see, and it was blood. I turned the light on.

His mouth was bleeding a little bit. So I didn’t feel so good.

So, by this time, I picked him up again, started walking into the liv- ing room. My wife goes to fix him a bottle. So, she takes the baby away from me and takes him into bed with her, takes the bottle and gives the baby the bottle, and I go in the living room with a head- ache. And kind of unhappy at the fact that I was feeling so wonder- ful and now I have got this headache. So, I went back in the bedroom and I looked over and his eyes were open now and his mouth was pretty swollen, and my wife said,  “Go back to bed. He will be all right now.” So I did that. I went back to bed. I finished a cigarette and went back to bed. When I laid down and shut my eyes, “God damn you.

You re taking my baby away from me.” And I started to cry. So I cried for about ten minutes and I got very, very unnerved.

LRH: Shut your eyes. This isn’t straight memory now. Shut your eyes. Let’s contact the grief discharge on this. Return to it. File clerk will give it to us, if possible. When I count from one to five and snap my fingers, your somatic strip is at the beginning of the engram and the first phrase that flashes into your mind you will give to me.

One-two-three-four-five. (snap) PC: “My baby.” LRH: Go ahead, answer.

PC: “My baby, my baby, my baby, my baby.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “My baby, my baby, my baby.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “My baby, my baby, my baby.” LRH: Next line.

PC: “Don’t take him from me.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Don’t take him away from me.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Don’t take him away from me.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Don’t take him away from me, don’t take him away from me, don’t take him away from me.” LRH: All right. Give me a yes or no on this: bouncer?

PC: Yes.

LRH: What is the bouncer? When I count from one to five the bouncer will flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-five. (snap) PC: “Get out.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Get out.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Get out, get out, get out.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out. Get out, I will keep him . . . Get out, I am going to keep him.” LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “Get out, I am going to keep him.” LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “Get out, I am going to keep him. Get out, I am going to keep him. Nobody takes him away from me.” LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “Get out. I am going to keep him. Nobody takes him away from me.” LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “Get out, I am going to keep him. Nobody takes him away from me.” LRH: When I snap my fingers, you will get an age flash, (snap) PC: Two.

LRH: Days, weeks, months, years? Now, when I snap my fingers a flash . . . (snap) PC: Months.

LRH: Okay Go over it again.

PC: “Get out. No one’s going to take him away from me. Get out. No one’s going to take him away from me. Get out. No ones going to take him away from me. Get out. No one’s going to take him away from me.” LRH: Have you got a somatic?

PC: Slight headache in here, very slight.

LRH: Physic?

PC: No.

LRH: This postconception or post birth? Two months postconception, yes or no?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Go over it again. Return to the beginning of the engram. Let’s return to the beginning of the engram. Somatic strip will pick up the first phrase of the engram when I count from one to five and snap my fingers, the first phrase of the engram will flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-five. (snap) PC: “Don’t take my baby away from me.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Don’t take my baby away from me.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Don’t take my baby away from me.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Don’t take my baby away from me.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Don’t take my baby away from me.” LRH: Got a somatic?

PC: A slight somatic in the shoulder.

LRH: Okay. Give me yes or no on this. Are you in your own valence?

PC: No.

LRH: Can you shift to your own valence, yes or no?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Let’s shift. Feel that moisture. See if you can get a moisture contact there. See if you can get a moisture contact. All right. Let’s return to the beginning of this engram and a moisture contact.

PC: I seem to contact moisture in the palm of my hand a little bit.

LRH: All right, let’s contact first a part of it. See if you can get the sensation of moisture across your shoulders. Let’s contact the first part of this engram. Now, are you in your own valence?

PC: Shaky along my arm here.

LRH: Okay. Contact the first thing. Give me a yes or no on it.

PC: Blow.

LRH: Yes or no, blow?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Let’s contact that blow. The somatic strip will contact the blow.

PC: Right here, the small of the back.

LRH: Okay. Somatic strip will move to just a moment before the blow hits. Just a moment before the blow hits. Now, the somatic strip will sweep along. Now, it contacts the moment of the blow. Bang! What words come with this blow?

PC: “Ow.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Ow.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Ow.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.” LRH: Shift into your own valence and contact that blow again. Let’s contact the first part of this, just before the blow, just before the blow. Now, the somatic strip sweeps forward into the blow. Contact it in your own valence.

PC: I get a shaky . . . all along, shaky feeling.

LRH: Can you contact the blow, now? Have you contacted the blow?

PC: No.

LRH: Okay. Let’s sweep back to the moment before the blow, just a moment before the blow. The moment before the blow. Now, the somatic strip’s going to sweep forward to the moment of the blow. Bang! Contact that blow.

PC: Very slight sensation here. I would hardly say a pain, slight sensation.

LRH: All right. What comes with that slight sensation?

PC: Kind of a flash, light.

LRH: All right. Let’s go through that again. Now, can you tell me—are there any words with this blow?

PC: I can’t get any right now.

LRH: All right. Give me a yes or no on this. Denyer?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. The denyer will flash into your mind when I count from one to five and snap my fingers. One-two-three-four-five. (snap) PC: “I won’t go.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t go.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t go.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t go.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t go.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t go.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t give him up.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t give him up.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t give him up.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t give him up.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t give him up.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I won’t give him up.” LRH: All right. Is there a bouncer we haven’t contacted in this engram, yes or no?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. Can you now reach the front of the engram and roll it, yes or no?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. The phrase which prevents you doing so will flash into your mind when I count from one to five . . .

PC: “Stop it.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop it.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop it.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop it.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop it.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop it.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop it.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop it. Stop this.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop this.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop this.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop this.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop this.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop this.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stop this. I won’t. Stop this.” LRH: Roll it.

PC: “Stop this. I won’t.” LRH: Continue.

PC: “Stop this. I won’t.” LRH: Continue.

PC: “Stop this. I won’t.” LRH: Continue.

PC: “I won’t give him. I won’t give him. You can’t take my baby away from me. I won’t give him up.” LRH: Continue.

PC: “No one can take my baby away from me. No one can take my baby away from me. Stop it. I won’t. Stop it. I won’t give him up. No one can take my baby away from me.” LRH: Next line?

PC: “I can’t see it.” LRH: Go over it again, PC: I can t see it.

LRH: Go over it again, PC: “I can’t see it.” LRH: Go over it again, PC: “I can’t see it.” LRH: Go over it again, PC: “I can’t see it” LRH: Go over it again, PC: “I can’t see it” LRH: The next line?

PC: No.

LRH: The next line?

PC: “There’s no other way.” LRH: Go over it again, PC: “There’s no other way.” LRH: Go over it again, PC: “There’s no other way.” LRH: Go over it again, PC: “There’s no other way.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “There’s no other way. There’s no other way. There’s no other way.” LRH: Next line?

PC: (no response) LRH: Are you in your own valence, yes or no?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Let’s contact the beginning of this engram, contact the beginning of it. Contact the beginning of it. Let’s roll it now. First phrase.

PC: “Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. I won’t. You can’t do this, you can’t take my baby away from me.” LRH: Go over “You can’t do this” again.

PC: “You can’t do this.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “You can’t do this.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “You can’t do this. You can’t do this. You can’t do this. You can’t do this.” LRH: Answer this. Next line.

PC: “There’s no other way.” LRH: Next line.

PC: “There’s no other way. This is the only way. This is the only way.” LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “This is the only way.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “This is the only way.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “This is the only way.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “This is the only way.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “This is the only way. This is the only way. This is the only way. This is the only way.” LRH: Next line.

PC: “Don’t take my baby away from me. For God’s sake don’t take my baby away from me. For God’s sake don’t take my baby away from me. Don’t take my baby away from me. Can’t you understand? You can’t take my baby away from me.” LRH: Continue.

PC: “Nobody can take my baby away from me. Ever. Nobody will take my baby away from me, ever.” LRH: Next line.

PC: “I am not trying to take your baby away from you. Be sensible. Be sensible. I am not trying to take your baby away from you. Be sensible.” LRH: Continue.

PC: (no response) LRH: When I count from one to five the next phrase will flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-five (snap).

PC: “How can you think?” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “How can you think I would do anything to you?” LRH: Let’s go over that again.

PC: “How can you think I would do anything to you?” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “How can you think I would do anything to you? How can you think I would do anything to you? How can you think I would do anything to you? How can you think I would do anything to you?” “I don’t know, but I do. I don’t know, but I do.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I don’t know, but I do.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I don’t know, but I do” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I don’t know, but I do. Well, he is my baby too, and I am waling to give him up. Nobody can take my baby away from me. Not you, not anybody, can ever take my baby, because he is mine. Because he is mine. Because he is mine.” LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “Because he is mine.” LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “Because he is mine” LRH: Next line. When I count from one to five the next line will flash into your mind.

PC: “He’s not yours.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “He’s not yours.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “He’s not yours. He’s not yours. He’s not yours. He’s not yours.” “He’s not yours, and he’s not mine.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “He’s not yours, and he’s not mine.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “He’s not yours, and he’s not mine. He’s not yours, and he’s not mine. He’s not yours, and he’s not mine. He’s not yours, and he’s not mine.” LRH: Next line.

PC: (no response) LRH: When I count from one to five the next line will flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-five, (snap) PC: “Belongs to everybody.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Belongs to everybody.” LRH: Okay. Is there a phrase in here to the effect of “Control yourself”? One-two-three-four-five. (snap) PC: No.

LRH: No? Is there a holder in this, yes or no?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Give me the holder. The holder will now flash into your mind when I count from one to five.

PC: “Stay where you are.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stay where you are.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stay where you are.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stay where you are.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stay where you are.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stay where you are.” LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are. Stay where you are.” (starts to laugh) LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Stay where you are.” (laughing) LRH: Okay, let’s roll it once more.

PC: “Stay where you are.” (laughing) LRH: All right. How’s the somatic on this?

PC: No somatic.

LRH: Give me a yes or no on this. Are you in your own valence?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right.

PC: (laughing) “Where are you? Stay where you are, but where are you? Stay where you are, but where are you? (laughing) You stay where you are, because you are where you stay, see?” (laughing) LRH: Okay. Let’s roll that again.

PC: “Stay where you are because you are where you stay. So, you stay there, because that’s where you are.” (laughing) LRH: Okay. I am going to ask the file clerk now. How many engrams similar to this preceded? Number?

PC: Six.

LRH: All right. Six engrams similar. Okay. How do you feel?

PC: How do I feel? Fine.

LRH: Go over that phrase again.

PC: Stay where you are?

LRH: Yes.

PC: “What’s so funny to you about that? Stay where you are. You are where you stay.” (laughing) LRH: All right, now. Let’s come up to the time you were camping. You are camping?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Let’s wake up there in the morning. The moment you’re waking up in the morning.

PC: Wow! Colder than hell.

LRH: All right. Let’s get some coffee right now. How does it feel?

PC: It’s cold out there, but it’s real nice. The air’s clean.

LRH: Let’s take a smell.

PC: Yes. Smells nice.

LRH: All right. Come up to present time.

PC: Now, wait a minute, I want to smell the lake once more. (sniffs) LRH: Are you in present time?

PC: Yes.

LRH: What is the date?

PC: The eighteenth of August.

LRH: What was the flash?

PC: Seventeenth of August.

LRH: That was the flash?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. What is the date?

PC: Eighteenth.

LRH: All right. What happened yesterday that had a holder in it?

PC: Oh, brother. I had forty-six children between the ages of seven and ten at the swimming pool, and one boy pushed a four-year-old girl whose mother was nearby into the shallow end, and I didn’t see it, and I came up and this other teacher said, “I don’t know what we are going to do about Tony. He’s got to be isolated.” I said, “Come here, Tony. Let’s go down to the locker room.” I said, “How do you feel?” and he said, “I don’t want to swim anymore.” Well, then I said, “You may get dressed. There are too many of us. You will have to stay here. You get dressed, and then you stay here in the locker room and wait for me.” It’s that—”Stay here” and he said, “You stay here, too,” and I said “I will stay here for a minute.” LRH: What is that a lock on?

PC: “You stay here.” LRH: Is that a lock on what we just recovered, just a moment ago?

PC: (laughing) Yes.

LRH: Okay.

PC: “Stay where you are, because you are where you stay.” Well, that’s . . . how do you like that? A seven-year-old gives me a loch, (laughing) LRH: Okay. When I count from one to five come up to present time. One-two-three-four-five, (snap) PC: Thanks ever so much.

I want to point out something. If I caught any of you doing what I just did on a couple of small points, I probably would be very cross with you. There were—I did this, because we have a chap that, by my estimate, is in very excellent condition—by my estimate, according to the data. If anybody had six engrams of that similar character before the one which I picked up, any auditor should have gone back and gotten the first one. Furthermore, the first error in this was asking for a specific aberration, or engram. That’s very bad. However, you can get rid of it and get away with it. Because I knew previously there was an emotional discharge on it. I didn’t expect him to wind up in the prenatal bank, so I was playing it too close to the edge there. I shouldn’t have gone after anything specific like that. However, I got away with it.

Now, that engram, two months postconception, it is—portions of it are in good shape. It’s all ready to roll. We took a little tension off the thing and got it straightened out. But the proper procedure would have been actually just mechanical procedure. I listened to this gentleman talk yesterday, so I knew something about what had happened to him. I expected that it was probably a short distance postpartum just after birth—that was my estimate of it—and that there was a grief discharge on it and that he hadn’t been particularly affected. We wound up down there, not in the basic area but two months postconception. After three months the thing would have beaten into a recession, and it would have stuck. But I am showing that that wasn’t smooth. I went after a specific item.

Now, if one of you in class for instance gets restimulated by something that somebody says up on the platform, if I stand up for instance and say, “It’s a girl; it’s a girl; it’s a girl; it’s a girl,” and get some of you restimulated, which I would never do, and someone turns on a sudden feeling of hip or headache or something like that; if his auditor took him right away and said, “Oh, we have got a somatic, oh, lets go after this specific somatic,” took him in and said, “Now, what was it in that lecture that turned on this somatic? Repeat it,” he would probably bring the person down into birth. Birth stays restimulated for two weeks and the person is very uncomfortable. So that would be bad auditing.

The proper thing to do is to knock out the chronic somatic—I mean, the somatic which has just been restimulated. The way one does that is by getting a direct wire to the moment when that thing turned on. Now, a few moments have elapsed, so “I” is a little bit distant from that. We have got another reality of “now” to compare with that. Possibly the thing will key out by making the person remember who said it, what was said. The somatic will probably kick out. If it doesn’t, then you would take him back down the track to a recent pleasurable moment. You would run this moment like an engram, until he could experience some of the pleasure. And at this—if this were run sufficiently, it lays the somatic back on the track and you bring him up to present time and you say, “How’s your hip now?” And he thinks, “What hip? Oh, yes, that’s right. It hurt me.” Because pleasures are powerful.

Now, I started in to give you a demonstration of Straight wire. All of a sudden, recognized here this—actually, I adjudicated that there’s a holder someplace in that grief discharge he is talking about, because he still seemed a little concerned about it, and I knew from yesterday’s conversation that nobody had run it out. He had stayed in his room for about a half an hour, and he cried, and his wife was out in the other room, hadn’t come in. No auditor touched him. So, I figured that maybe there’s a holder left in that. I was fairly sure there was, so I just took the chance and shot the holder out of the thing.

You will take chances, too. There’s a big difference between doing a perfect job and shooting for something like that. I actually was not doing anything dangerous. I was doing nothing as dangerous because, after all, I have audited several people. And these people—one learns after a while what he can get away with and what he can’t. He gets a feeling for it.

I shouldn’t put on a demonstration like this for you. I should put on a nice dress parade, so that you can all copy it perfectly; but I want to point out my mistakes there and let you learn by them, just as well. Don’t go for a chronic somatic specifically, or any specific somatic and don’t go for any specific aberration in a case. Don’t do either of those two things.

We take a case—nice, fresh, raw meat preclear, aberree one minute, preclear the next, you know, and right at that moment we say, “Well, this person has a bad pair of eyes. Let’s see what we can do about his eyes. The file clerk will now give us the incident where his eyes were injured.” Something like that. Whee! That’s probably birth, and birth will occasionally lift.

Once in a while you will start the file clerk rolling, you will say, “Now, the file clerk will give us the engram necessary to resolve the case.” And the file clerk does. You see, one works more or less with the file clerk. And “The somatic strip will go to that beginning of the engram.” You know the somatic strip is there. You don’t sit around and wonder whether it’s there. It’s either there or the person’s got circuitry. If he’s got circuitry, you are going to find out in an awful hurry, so you assume automatically that the case is working pianola. The file clerk working perfectly, your flash answers exactly what they’re supposed to be. That’s a case that’s working perfectly. We reduce all cases to that status.

Now, as near as we can, before we start to roll engrams, we do anything we can to reduce a case. And we consider a case very, very opened when this procedure will take place. All right. You will ask the file clerk for the necessary way to resolve this case and the first thing you know, you are running birth. You don’t know it’s birth. Well, that’s no reason to back off. Run the first section of birth. Let’s say the first few contractions and then run them again and run them again and find out if they’re toughening up, because they may be getting worse. And if they’re starting to get a lot worse, something is wrong with this case. Because the file clerk gives you something, that something will reduce or erase. That’s very reliable. And if you have gotten into something that you considered was—the file clerk had given you, it was probably the fellow was stuck there all the time anyhow, so you have got something you will have to adjust.

We will go into that later when we talk of running engrams. I don’t want to get too far off the line with this. I just gave you a demonstration— I wanted to just bring out the major points in that demonstration. I am not going to answer any questions, except about the specific demonstration just made.

This case, however, has been working very well. He was in his own valence. He actually was. He had the tremor. Did you note the tremor? Did you notice that it went off and went on when that somatic hit him the first time? He went out of valence. His somatic was dogged and then he went back into valence. He went past the first impact there the first couple of times. He hit it there, it took a little of the kick out of it. But I was trying not to kick this engram up too high. I was trying to find out if any part of this engram was reduced. So, I was playing various sections of it.

Now, the next point that I am making here is—that I am going to tell you now We figured that he had a holder somewhere on the track. We didn’t go for this because—now, I will clarify it in your minds perfectly about this demonstration. We didn’t go for this, because he had an aberration about the baby, or an overweening desire to hold on to a baby. We went on to this because he slipped one auto in some fashion or one had been restimulated very heavily and apparently there was a holder in it and I was going to see if I could shoot the holder out of it and I did. But I had to get a denyer and a bouncer before I got a holder.

Male voice: How did you compute there was a holder right at that particular time?

Well, you see, that looks like magic and it was quite simple. You see he was dragging down the engram and he was going a little bit slower, a little bit slower. He was getting further and further from the center where the attention units were and he was getting less and less contact with the thing and obviously he had a holder. He was latched up there someplace. Simple. And that’s what I mentioned yesterday, a lot of this stuff—oh, absolutely magic. Simple.

Now, the next proceeding actually, if I hadn’t gotten that holder and if I had seen that somatic toughen up with him anyway, I would immediately have asked the question which I asked him, “The file clerk will now give up the number of engrams similar to this which preceded.” And we got the number “six.” If I were working him on a regular run, I would have said, “Go to number one. The file clerk will now give us the first engram similar to one we have just contacted.” It may have been that the file clerk—because that’s being very didactic with the file clerk—it may have been that the file clerk wouldn’t have been able to give us number one, but he would have probably given us at least number three, and if he gives us number three, we take number three for a couple of spins, because—and then we ask again, “Is this the first one?” “No.” You take it for a couple of spins and then say, “File clerk will now give us the first one.” You must get the second this time, which you check again, and you knock that out. Now, at last, we have got the first one. We know we have got the first one and we would run it. And I had my eye on a pro auditor in the back of the hall in case he latched on this engram. As it was, he got a laughter release on the thing, and any time a person gets a laughter relief on the thing—I took the particular caution of settling him in a moment of pleasure before we brought him on up. Your case runs very easily. You should be cleared in no time flat.

Male voice: Now, when you get to this number one, do you have to go back to numbers four and five?

Oh, no, no. It would probably be much smoother if we did that, but this kind of condition obtains: here’s his time track, and here was conception, sperm, ovum. Here’s, let’s say, this was two months postconception. Up here, let’s say, is birth. We had this engram here and yet they were something like that. Now, if we try—we did this one, it would be just lovely if all this stuff existed in chains which were identical, but those dramatizations in those engrams are varied, so we have these all right, but now there’s other engrams. There are a lot of other engrams in here, you see. Now, we try to run this chain, and some of the phrases in this one are in this one but don’t appear in that one. You see, so that we have to run down the basic on each one of these. And occasionally we make a person uncomfortable to clip one like that and then go down and get his basic out, but it actually deintensifies the one to get a near basic or a basic out of the chain.

Now, if you go back to it again, you will find yourself hung up, because—let’s say it was this one, and we had gone down to here and erased this one or reduced it markedly. And then we had gone back to here again on the supposition that this one and this one were almost identical. It would have been wrong. Because there would be phrases in this one that weren’t in this one. There would be additional phrases here certainly. Now, those additional phrases and a different somatic, probably, would have resulted in the necessity of coming back down to here if we touched that one again and we would be playing this case up and down, up and down. So, this one is not going to reduce, so just leave it alone. That will work out like that. We are going into that later. But I want to show you as many times as I can about it.

Now, I said I made a mistake there at the first. I had made a little bit of an error in judgment. I had considered the thing was a grief engram, because he had an emotional discharge of it. Evidently he bled the emotion off this thing and he might have a grief block, but he went up where the—and it was interesting that there are other engrams there—and this little seven-year-old boy would say something that would produce a lock. So anybody who said, “Stay there,” if he heard “Stay there” on a motion picture screen or something, he would come along and hit a lock.

All right. Another thing is running a person sitting in a chair. That’s the beauty of Dianetics—you can get away with an awful lot.

Sometimes, you get a person’s clothes dirty and they roll up in a ball and roll over on the floor. Oh, too many people have done that. As a matter of fact, one of the pro auditors the other day was auditing another one of them at the place they were staying and hit this very funny—he all of a sudden—they were running on Guk, and he was running on Guk, too, and he tries to get something out of her, and what she gives him restimulated something in him, and he went right down on the floor in a circular ball, and he is still saying, “Hold her, hold her” So she says to him, “Well, give it to me. Give me the holder.” Because she thought that he was complaining. And he was going right on auditing her. This is what is known as aplomb.

Male voice: Why didn’t you give him a canceller?

I still give people cancellers, usually automatically. However, in this case, I figured if anything went in very bad, somebody could rub it out. But the main thing I didn’t want to do here was artificialize it on him. I was trying to do a sneak on a grief engram by not pretending to put him in therapy. He was sitting in a chair and so forth, and I thought I could blow it for him.

Oh, you get tricky as you get further along, so to benefit the case markedly, you are justified in taking a few chances and cutting a few curves. Of course, I would like to show you nothing but standard pattern auditing, but every time I get hold of a case, I get interested. I cease to give a demonstration at that moment and start to audit. And people like Paul Koontz back at the Elizabeth school and so forth get me aside and complain to me, and they say, “But you know what you are doing there is way in advance of what they are supposed to be learning. And besides, wasn’t that a new technique you were using?” And I say, “Well, as a matter of fact, it was. I just happened to think of it.” And so on. And one auditor got interested in this and was going to write me some scripts; but nobody, you know, writes scripts so that the person could give a demonstration with me and this stuff doesn’t derail like this. You start to give a demonstration of how to run a person through pleasure moments, and you are running him through pleasure moments.

The first thing you know, you note that this person has a certain twitch of one sort or another that you have associated in the past by observation with people who will go into convulsions very easily. So you say, “I wonder if I could explode him.” And you say, “Well, all right. The file clerk will now give us a basic. The somatic strip will contact the beginning of the engram. One-two-three-four-five.” Bang! Wham! Off the chair. Psychopath. I was supposed to be demonstrating pleasure.

Now, you were going to these good dependable pros around here to show you Standard Procedure. All right. Now, I wonder if we hadn’t better take a ten minute break.

I have heard several individuals mention the fact that somebody’s auditing is different from somebody else’s auditing. Now, learning to be an auditor is not anywhere near as difficult as, but somewhat similar to, learning how to play a Wurlitzer. It’s a big keyboard you are playing. You can do a lot of things with it, and your own personality, idiosyncrasies don’t help but enter into it, knowingly or unknowingly. You will become amazed sometimes that you will realize that you have been practicing tacit consent on AAs, et cetera. And all of a sudden, whoom! That was unknowing idiosyncrasy; but the knowing idiosyncrasy is that after a while you will find out what you can get away with. But right now, you are playing it on a thin margin. You can get away with Standard Procedure very well, very easily, and I think no danger. You can continue to audit with Standard Procedure for a long time. Standard Procedure then, in your hands, will begin to broaden—not that you are adding anything particularly to Standard Procedure, but you are beginning to know it so well that you can flick from one end to the other and back again and do things which if somebody asked you suddenly, “What are you doing?” and you would say, “Well, I—well, it just seemed like I could get basic-basic out.” “Why did you think you could get basic-basic out at this particular moment?” Well, you try to go back over it again. All of a sudden you realize you develop a sense of touch. You look at the case, you know what the case is going to do, going to say.

So, you are going to watch your own team captains and people who do demonstrations up here, and they’re going to try to stick as close to the center line as possible, of course, rather than throw you off any. But you are going to see an awful lot of variations. A tremendous amount of variations.

Somebody suggested that his pro auditor couldn’t be any good the other day, because he wasn’t auditing like another pro auditor. Now, you are looking at—not necessarily why the individual approaches—but you are looking at a different type of computation that one is carrying forward. And a person who would make such a remark probably hasn’t looked at pro auditors enough to know how many techniques there are. So he sees one pro auditor working one part of Standard Procedure and he sees another pro auditor working another part of Standard Procedure, and he thinks they’re auditing differently.

Now, Monday morning, we will begin the series of five lectures on nothing but Standard Procedure. I have been leading you up to that, trying to give you the background and so on. I expect you to catch on to a lot more than I can tell you right here. I mean, I try to tell you a lot and I expect you to catch on to what you can catch of it. And I expect you to ask your team captains what you can’t understand. They’re very competent boys. They can answer all your questions. There’s no doubt about it. I have had a couple of them complain that some of the questions were unanswerable. But I have given you this morning a lecture trying to set it up so that you get some sort of a demonstration immediately afterwards with your team captains—those in the intensive course particularly—so that you can pound this home a little bit more, so that you have another session. But you can go over these things more minutely. You are going to be brushing up on your own talent and your own auditing very hard during the last two weeks, because I stop talking about processing next Friday. And for the following two weeks, I talk about the various branches of Dianetics, to bring you up to date on it.

Now, therefore, I am going to—when you don’t understand something that I have said, you make a note of it, not so much to ask me up here, because if I took every individual question that was thrown at me and answered them, we would be here for a long time. That’s one of the chief things that a pro auditor can do for you. Make a note of it and ask him. And he will get it. I try not to throw them any curves such as occasionally standing up and talking to an interesting group like this, and suddenly get a nice long blue flash, “By golly, there’s something I have been looking for for some time,” you know, proceed grandly to go on along the line as though it is just a part of Standard Procedure and everybody knew it all the time. It’s a brand-new one, and then somebody can go ask a pro auditor, “Is it true that when a rudigaw was inverted one hundred degrees . . . ?” And the pro wasn’t there that morning. And he sits there and his jaws drop a little bit.

Well, I tried to minimize this business. It got a little bit away from me. I added a couple of minutes in there. I can never give a talk without brushing up a little bit. There’s so much brushing to be done in Dianetics, it can go on forever, but no matter how smooth it might appear, and no matter how smoothly it works, you go over the same ground again and you can tie in another loose end. There are lots of loose ends in the world. Eventually, I suppose a full talk on Dianetics can all be condensed down to maybe a five minute speech, but it’s fortunately going toward greater—going in the direction of greater simplicity, rather than greater complexity. But back where I was saying your individual auditing will be individual, all we can do is make you people cognizant of everything you can do, and the things that you can’t do, and then let you practice from there, be coached until you are good at it. There’s no substitute in Dianetics for anything. It’s a science which concerns itself with thinking, and a person who studies that science without bothering to think has a hard time of it. Therefore, there’s practically nothing can be learned by rote here. Because it’s too nicely influenced. It’s still being shaped.

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